150 Chechen rebels invade village, shoot down helicopter, 8 Russians and 30 Chechens die in battle

Interfax and AFP ^ | September 26, 2002

[HAL9000]

26.09.2002 10:17:05

Unit fights with large guerillas in Ingush village

NAZRAN/KHANKALA. Sept 26 (Interfax) - An armed struggle is currently underway with a guerilla unit numbering up to 150 in the Ingush mountainous village of Galashki near the Chechen border.

The guerillas attacked the village at about 4 a.m. on Thursday, when troops from the Sunzha district police department and Ingush special riot police unit (OMON) engaged in the battle. Army units were later transferred to the scene, sources with the command of the operation in Ingushetia told Interfax.

The guerillas have already lost over thirty people. Maps, identification and weapons have been seized from wounded guerillas, the sources said.

Preliminary information indicates that three servicemen have also been killed and ten wounded.

Earlier reports said the guerillas were shaving their beards and dressing in civilian clothing to blend in with the local residents.

As of 9:20 a.m. Moscow time, the battle was in full swing in the center of the village, which has been completely blocked off. The area is also being patrolled by military helicopters. The military and police are trying to curb the guerillas' attempts to break through to three bridges across the Assa River to retreat to Chechnya.

The guerillas also shot down a helicopter at about 8 a.m., which crashed onto a village and killed two pilots.

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Chechen guerrillas shoot down helicopter in Ingushetia

(26.09.02 9:54:42)

KHANKALA. Sept 26 (Interfax-AVN) - Chechen guerrillas shot down an MI-24 Hind helicopter near the village of Galashki in Ingushetia on Thursday.

"The helicopter was shot down with a portable anti-aircraft missile system at about 8 a.m.," a source with the headquarters of the Russian Combined Federal Forces in the North Caucasus has told Interfax-Military News Agency.

The helicopter crashed onto a village, killing the crew of two pilots, the source said.

The guerrillas also fired upon another helicopter but did not damage it.

Army and police troops are currently fighting with the guerrillas from a unit led by prominent Chechen warlord Ruslan Gelayev.

Gelayev's unit, which had earlier been deployed in Georgia's Pankisi Gorge, crossed the Georgian-Russian border in the second half of September, according to the headquarters.

On September 20, the guerrillas attacked a military vehicle near the village of Tarskoye in North Ossetia and then fired upon a military helicopter.

Units of the 58th army, whose headquarters is located in Vladikavkaz, and the Ingush Interior Ministry are carrying out an operation on searching for and eliminating the gang.

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Five federals killed in battle with rebels in Ingush village

(26.09.02 10:16:20)

KHANKALA. Sept 26 (Interfax-AVN) - Three federal servicemen have been killed in an engagement with Chechen guerrillas in the village of Galashki in Russia's internal republic of Ingushetia, a source in the headquarters of the Combined Federal Forces in the North Caucasus told Interfax-Military News Agency on Thursday, citing early reports.

"In addition, two pilots have died. Rebels shot down an MI-24 Hind helicopter under command of Major Vladimir Vlasov at about 8 a.m. using a portable surface-to-air missile system. Ten servicemen are wounded in the engagement. According to early reports, rebels have lost more than 30 people killed and wounded," the source said.

The battle continues in the center of the village, the source stressed citing data as of 9:20 a.m. Moscow time (0520 GMT). "The rebels are trying to break through to three bridges across the Assa River in order to escape to Chechnya," he said.

Units of the 58th army and Ingush Interior Ministry that are engaged in the destruction of the gang numbering up to 150 men have regrouped and reinforced protection of the bridges, the source went on. "Moreover, immediate and remote approaches to the bridges are reinforced by armored vehicles and special-purpose groups," he said.

The source claimed he had no data on losses among residents of the village.

"Some locals were evacuated, others are hiding in their houses. I do not rule out that some of them are killed or wounded," he said.

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AFP via Babelfish translation -

Engagements at the border tchétchéno-ingouche: 8 killed Russian soldiers (Russian source)

MOSCOW, 26 seven (AFP) - violent one engagements enter Russian forces and combatants tchetchenes at the border between Ingouchie and Tchétchénie (the Caucasus Russian) made eight died Thursday in the Russian rows, indicated the Russian staff which also announces the death of about thirty combatants tchetchenes.

The combat, which started before the paddle close to the locality ingouche of Galachki, located in a mountainous area, oppose the federal forces to some 170 independence combatants come from Georgia, according to a person in charge for the Russian staff quoted by the Itar-Tass agency.

A Semi-24 helicopter, with on its board two pilots, was cut down by a shooting of rebellious missile during these engagements, indicated the staff without specifying if these two dead were entered in the total assessment.

[GaryMontana]

Two months ago I would have felt sorry for Russia. In light of recent information on Russia becoming Iraq's best buddy I could care less. Thisis esp. true with the flacid Russian threats toward the USA if we go into Iraq.

Actually a nice large war in Chech. could remind the Russians why we are about to attack Iraq.

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Russian aviation bombards a village ingouche

Thursday September 26, 2002 - 6h55 GMT

CLOSE TO GALACHKI (Russia), 26 seven (AFP) - Russian fighters bombarded Thursday morning the village ingouche of Galachki after an incursion of a group of rebels tchetchenes, brings back a correspondent of the AFP being near this locality.

A Semi-24 Russian military helicopter was cut down Thursday morning in this village, killing the two pilots on his board, according to the Russian army and of the witnesses questioned by the AFP. The confrontations also made eight died in the Russian rows and about thirty among the combatants, according to Russian staff's.

The Russian forces forwarded Thursday morning of the reinforcements to Galachki, a locality of some 6.000 inhabitants, including 1.500 refugees tchetchenes, that the civil population fled on board trucks, affirming to fear an operation of raking.

The correspondent of the AFP saw armoured conveyors, as well as jeep transporting the special forces of police force, moved towards Galachki.

Some buses of the Russian ministry of the Emergencies, which were to evacuate the inhabitants, also went towards the village.

Aslan, a refugee reducing tchetchene Galachki, declared that at the village "there were shootings of everywhere, but the rebels had already left".

"I have not seen similar combat for two years", it added.

According to a woman having left the village, the engagements began Sunday in the area and there were victims among the inhabitants. "Around four hours of the morning, the shootings became intense and one said to us to leave", it indicated.

The Russian forces affirm that from 150 to 300 combatants come from Georgia are cut off in Galachki, not far from Tchétchénie.

Last Monday, two groups of independence combatants coming from Georgia, from which the number was not specified, had succeeded in crossing by the mountains the Russian border of Ingouchie, according to Russian frontier guards' quoted by Interfax-AVN.

[11B3]

Sounds most series. Did the last one come through Babelfish?

[HAL9000]

yes.

[Stavka2]

Oh so kind of you. Well, like to see your commitment to support Islam is nice and strong...and by the way, Saudi Arabia really is your friend. But then I degress, everyone who doesn't lick Uncle Sams ass must be an enemy of friendom.

[Stavka2]

friendom. = freedom

[Stavka2]

I love Bable translations....Bable is definitly the proper name. I can't even reverse translate this into Russian and make sense of it.

[sneakypete]

In light of recent information on Russia becoming Iraq's best buddy I could care less.

They are not Iraq's "best buddy". They are trade partners with Iraq,just like the majority of Europe. The US and England are about the only two nations paying any attention to the embargo.

This is esp. true with the flacid Russian threats toward the USA if we go into Iraq.

Oh,yeah. This makes a LOT of sense. Russian territory and people are actually under physical attack by armed invaders attacking a village,yet the US doesn't want Russia to go after the Chechnans. Meanwhile,the US wants Russia and other nations to back US,while we go to war against Iraq,a nation that has NOT attacked us! You and a LOT of the others here need to wake up and pay attention to the reality,not the propoganda put out by Bubba Bush's White House.

Actually a nice large war in Chech. could remind the Russians why we are about to attack Iraq.

How would a "nice large war in Chechnia" relate in any way with a US president going to war against a sovereign nation to distract voters from the disaster of his economic policies,and to keep his poll numbers up during a election cycle?

[GaryMontana]

You are wrong. Saudi Arabia and for that matter all of Islam is an enemy of the USA>

Among the many unlearned lessons of Day-Which-Will-Live-In-Infamy-II-- the necessity to control our borders, the need for a patriotic renewal and the importance of combating multiculturalism -- the most significant is the nature of Islam. You will note that I do not say militant Islam, or radical Islam, or Islamic extremism or other such weasel words – but Islam, period.

Every one of the hijackers who flew airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were professing and practicing Moslems, as is Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda terrorist network, is based in Moslem countries and supported financially by the so called pious Moslem leadership of Saudi Arabia.

The overwhelming majority of Moslem religious authorities who have spoken out on the subject, including those at the main mosque in Mecca and Egypt’s prestigious Al Azar University, either endorse or rationalize acts of terrorism. On a day when Americans were incinerated or buried under tons of rubble, Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia, celebrated in the streets.

Sept. 11 was one chapter in a 1400-year jihad. Every day, the World Trade Center massacre is reenacted on a smaller scale somewhere in the world. Jewish women and children are burned alive in a bus in Israel. A missionary is beheaded in the Philippines, gunmen shoot up a church in Pakistan (deliberately firing into the prostrate bodies of women trying to shield their children). Ancient monasteries and convents are destroyed in Kosovo. Women are sentenced to death for adultery in Nigeria, Hindus are murdered in the Kashmir. In Denmark, the Muslim community there has put a $30,000 bounty on the heads of Jews and those who support Israel. Nuns are beheaded in Baghdad, Christians in Sudan are forced into slavery, and in Britain, Islam openly states it is going to take over not only the UK, but the whole world -- and the beat goes on.
Genocide in the Sudan, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, religious persecution in Saudi Arabia, calls for another holocaust in mosques from Mecca to Gaza, the imposition of Islamic law in Nigeria, forced conversions in Indonesia, synagogues burned in France, Jews attacked across Europe – these are everyday events, as Third World and much of the First slowly turns Islamic green.

Sadly our leaders, from President Bush on down, insist on peddling the absurdity that Islam is a religion of peace – a creed of kindness and benevolence tragically and inexplicably corrupted by fanatics.

Why is the leadership of the West reluctant to confront manifest reality? The reason lies partly with our absurd foreign policy. We have declared certain Moslem nations to be our loyal allies – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan. We would not want to offend these dear friends by saying something unflattering about their bloody, butcherly, dark ages faith.

Americans are naturally benevolent. Most of us are taught from childhood that is religion is good (and it does not matter which religion). As long as little Johnny believes in God and goodness, it’s inconsequential whether he lights candles, wears a skull cap to services or prays in the direction of Mecca.

This works with every religion except Islam.
Consider the following: Of the three major western religions: one was started by a lawgiver who helped to free slaves; one by a man of peace; the last one by a man who loved war and having sex with children. Mohammed not only led men into battle, he enjoyed marrying girls as young as six years old (it is in the Koran). The essence of his message is sick and disgusting. A holy war where you slaughter your enemies, while at the same time encouraging followers to have sex with the children they capture (as he did) for the glory of Allah. He even advised his followers to negotiate false peace treaties in order to lull their enemies.

For almost 1,400 years, that has been the reality of Islam. Within a century after the death of Mohammed, Islam spread throughout the Middle East and across North Africa. It overran the Iberian peninsula and was finally stopped in southern France. It spread eastward as far as the southern Philippines. It was not propagated by fresh-faced young men knocking on doors and announcing: “Hello. I’m from your local mosque. Have you considered the Koran?” It was and is spread by force – conversion by the sword or death. This is still in practice today.

Some will respond that all religions go through periods of violence, usually in their infancy. Christianity had its crusades and Inquisition, its forced conversions and expulsions. The evil committed in the name of Christ happened centuries ago. The evil committed in the name of the Prophet is going on now, as you read these words. Of 22 conflicts in the Third World, 20 involve Moslems versus someone else. Coincidence? In his brilliant book, “Clash of Cultures and the Remaking of World Order,” Samuel Huntington speaks of Islam’s “bloody borders.”

There is no Methodist Jihad, no Jewish Hasidic holy warriors, no Buddhist monk wanting to have 72 virgins waiting for him after a suicide bombing, no Hindu Holy men plotting to blow up people, no Southern Baptist suicide bombers, no Mormon elders preaching the annihilation of members of other faiths.

Islam is a warrior religion – the perfect vessel for fanatics, the violence-prone, the envious and haters of all stripes. This is one reason why Islam is making so many converts among the peaceable denizens of our prison system.

Still, much of the West is addicted to a fairy-tale version of Islam. Christian and Jewish clergy fall all over themselves to have interfaith services with imams. Representatives of Moslem groups are invited to the White House. The president signs a Ramadan declaration. In California, public schools ask children to role-play at being Moslems. Our universities take carefully selected verses from the Koran and present them as the essence of the faith. All that’s needed is a Moslem character on “Sesame Street.” Look – it’s the Jihad Monster!
This perspective engenders a fatally false sense of security. Imagine, in 1940, Winston Churchill taking to the airwaves to announce “Nazism is an ideology of peace which, regrettably, has been perverted by a few fanatics like Hitler and Goebbels. But most storm troopers and SS men are fine follows – your friends and neighbors.”

For the first thousand years of its history – from the death of Mohammad to the 17th. century decline of the Ottoman empire, Islam was an expansionist force. For the next 300 years, as the West rose to preeminence, Islam receded. For the past four decades – fueled by Arab oil wealth, a surplus population in the Middle East, the waning of the West and the rise of more virulent strains of the faith (Shiism, Wahhabism, Sunni fundamentalism) – Islam is expanding once more.

Due to Moslem immigration and aggressive proselytizing, Islam is being exported to the West. Moslem populations are burgeoning throughout Western Europe. (In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.) In Judeo-Christian America, Islam is the fastest growing religion. It is also spreading down the coast of West Africa, through the Balkans (after Serbia, Macedonia is the next target) and up from Mindanao in the Philippines.

Wherever it comes, Islam brings its delightful customs – child marriages, female circumcisions, rabid hatred toward Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and every other non-muslim, terrorism and support for terrorism and a virulent intolerance of other faiths.

Am I suggesting we declare war on over 1 billion million Moslems? The question is moot – Islam has declared war on the rest of the human race. When one side knows it’s at war and the other thinks peace and brotherhood prevail, guess who wins?

Ultimately, it is not about Jews in Israel, or Orthodox Serbs in Kosovo, or Hindus in Kashmir, Buddhists in Thailand, or Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, Taoists in China, or Christians in Sudan and Nigeria, but all of us. As Ben Franklin would have it – Either we will hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately.

[Stavka2]

Thanks for the lesson. You're new here, so I'll explain something....what I said to you was sarcasm in response to your statement on Russia....which, by the way goes totally against what you just wrote yourself. If I truelly had to choose, I would not hit Iraq, I would hit Saudi Arabia. First off, all the leaders of the ME are butcherers. So that established, a socialist who allows tolerance of Christians and women's equal rights is a hell of a lot better then Wahhibi nut jobs....but as usual in American foreign policy the US attacks the lesser of two evils and protects the greater....and yes, Saudi Arabia has over 120 medium ranged missiles and God knows how much WMD that they flat out bought.

[Incorrigible]

Forces of freedom on the march?

[GaryMontana]

Ok,

I did not understand.

I Believe that you are correct that Saudi Arabia is the head of the snake that must be cut off

[river rat]

Semper Fi

[Stavka2]

Ok, I know these are signal flags...no idea what they mean. Remember: Tread Head....we only use 3 colored ones. :0)

[Mo1]

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[river rat]

Defeat Islam

[Stavka2]

Aye aye brother, bring their world down around their ears.