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Rice: Iraq providing shelter, chemical weapons help to al-Qaida
Associated Press | September 25, 2002 | JOHN J. LUMPKIN

Posted on 09/25/2002 6:00:43 PM PDT by HAL9000

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush's national security adviser on Wednesday accused Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's regime of sheltering members of the al-Qaida terrorist network in Baghdad and helping Osama bin Laden's operatives in developing chemical weapons.

Condoleezza Rice's comments -- by far the strongest statements yet from the U.S. government alleging al-Qaida contacts with the Iraqi government -- were aired Thursday on PBS' "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer.''

Her accusations came as the Bush administration continues to make its case to a skeptical world that Saddam should be removed from power, by force if necessary. The charges also came as the White House sought to fend off accusations from Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle that Bush was playing politics with the debate over war in Iraq.

"We clearly know that there were in the past and have been contacts between senior Iraqi officials and members of al-Qaida going back for actually quite a long time,'' Rice said. "We know too that several of the (al-Qaida) detainees, in particular some high-ranking detainees, have said that Iraq provided some training to al-Qaida in chemical weapons development.''

Previously, the widely held view has been that while Saddam and bin Laden both oppose the United States, their motivations are too different for them to work together. Saddam seeks secular power; bin Laden's drive comes from religious motivations and his opposition to the U.S. military presence in Saudi Arabia and the Arab world.

But Rice said, "There clearly are contacts between al-Qaida and Iraq that can be documented; there clearly is testimony that some of the contacts have been important contacts and that there's a relationship here.''

She suggested that details of the contacts will be released later.

Previously, U.S. intelligence officials have said that some al-Qaida members have been detected in Iraq, but that they appeared to simply be crossing the country after fleeing Afghanistan for their native countries on the Arabian peninsula or in North Africa. U.S. intelligence has also received information that some al-Qaida leaders are hiding in Iran, and the U.S. government is looking into reports that al-Qaida operatives are conducting training just over the Iranian border from Afghanistan.

Rice said that much of the information is coming from al-Qaida operatives captured since the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. This includes several senior leaders whom the U.S. alleges organized terrorist attacks.

"No one is trying to make an argument at this point that Saddam Hussein somehow had operational control of what happened on Sept. 11, so we don't want to push this too far, but this is a story that is unfolding, and it is getting clearer, and we're learning more,'' Rice said.

"And there are some al-Qaida personnel who found refuge in Baghdad,'' Rice said.

Earlier in the day, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld made a vague reference to Iraq-al Qaida links during a NATO meeting in Warsaw, Poland, but didn't offer details.

Administration officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Rice's disclosure was significant because it marked the first time that the White House claimed that al-Qaida operated in Saddam-controlled Baghdad. It was an effort to counter suggestions that al-Qaida operatives were solely in the Kurdish area of northern Iraq, which he doesn't control. The disclosure is part of an effort to strengthen the case against Saddam, the officials said.

Previously, it's been known that Ansar al-Islam, an Islamic extremist group in northern Iraq, sent about a dozen of its members to bin Laden's camps. The group is largely composed of ethnic Kurds and had experimented with biological weapons, U.S. officials have said. But any links to Saddam's government were dubious.

Bin Laden has sought chemical, biological and nuclear weapons for a decade, U.S. intelligence officials have said. His followers are believed to have experimented with rudimentary chemical and biological weapons, but they lacked the sophistication to use them in a way that would kill large numbers of people.

Saddam's military used chemical weapons against Iran in the 1980s and on rebelling Iraqi Kurds. He has also researched biological and nuclear weapons -- previously, the key complaint of the Bush administration against Saddam.

Saddam's government denies having any of these weapons.

After Sept. 11, officials in the Czech Republic said that chief hijacker Mohamed Atta had met with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague, which some viewed as a link between Iraq and the attacks. But U.S. officials have since said they doubt the meeting took place.

The Iraqi government has been linked to other groups labeled terrorist by the United States -- primarily those that oppose Iran and Israel.

Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; rice; saddamhussein
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To: HAL9000
Looks like Zeev Schiff's gonna get credit for this. Along with the IDF officers who traveled to Washington this past week, undoubtedly supplying the Pentagon with additional information about how Saddam helped Osama Bin Laden. You don't really need any additional evidence to demonstrate Saddam's an enemy of America. Would that Algore and Tommy Daschund could drop their anti-America blinders and see it too, cause its right in front of their faces.
21 posted on 09/25/2002 6:31:07 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: okie01
The "Grand Opening" is yet to come.

You got some preview predictions?

22 posted on 09/25/2002 6:31:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: PhilDragoo
The disclosure from Rice was a shot-across-the-bow to Senator Daschle (D-Iraq).
23 posted on 09/25/2002 6:33:04 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: Dr. Frank
Just heard some numbskull from Congress state that he has had all the classified briefings on Iraq and has been told that they are NOT an imminent threat.

Why do I think this demonrat is LYING? Cause his lips were moving.

24 posted on 09/25/2002 6:33:07 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
Was that the Dem Rep from Ohio, Kuinich (sp?) on CNBC Capitol Report?
25 posted on 09/25/2002 6:36:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: nutmeg
BTTT
26 posted on 09/25/2002 6:40:39 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: okie01
Indeed. VP Cheney has already confirmed on MTP that Saddam Hussein was the author of 9/11 -- that is the only logical interpretation of the Atta-Al-Ani connection -- but, again, the bitter pill is always sweetened with a carefully-calibrated dose of ambiguity. And I expect the ambiguity to be maintained as long as they possibly can. If they can pressure Saddam out without having to get explicit about it, they will, and we'll never get to hear the whole story. My view is that getting rid of Saddam will take the bulk of Bush's first term in office. One thing I've learned from watching this unfold is how easy it is for Bush to stretch this out as long as he wants. We've got a long way to go yet.
27 posted on 09/25/2002 6:41:10 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This was on Hannity & Colmes tonite. Sorry I cannot remember the name of the demon.
28 posted on 09/25/2002 6:43:32 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
Just heard some numbskull from Congress state that he has had all the classified briefings on Iraq and has been told that they are NOT an imminent threat.

It's well-known that our intelligence agencies sometimes hold back information in such briefings depending on how much trust they have in the Congressmen sitting in on them to keep their mouth shut.

Since this is a Democrat you are talking about, one would assume that he was given an "edited" briefing. And that's what he's talking about. (And notice, he couldn't keep his mouth shut about it, as expected.)

29 posted on 09/25/2002 6:45:21 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: HAL9000
"Previously, the widely held view has been that while Saddam and bin Laden both oppose the United States, their motivations are too different for them to work together.,,"

I was just reading a history of WWII, and it said that the US and the Soviet Union worked together against Hitler. Now, this couldn't possibly be true. After all, the Soviets were communists and atheists, while the US was capitalistic and full of religious types---virtual opposites!

30 posted on 09/25/2002 6:49:55 PM PDT by cookcounty
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To: HAL9000
Dick Cheney on MTP, 9/8/02:
Mr. RUSSERT: One year ago when you were on MEET THE PRESS just five days after September 11, I asked you a specific question about Iraq and Saddam Hussein. Let’s watch:

(Videotape, September 16, 2001):

Mr. RUSSERT: Do we have any evidence linking Saddam Hussein or Iraqis to this operation?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: No.

(End videotape)

Mr. RUSSERT: Has anything changed, in your mind?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I want to be very careful about how I say this. I’m not here today to make a specific allegation that Iraq was somehow responsible for 9/11. I can’t say that. On the other hand, since we did that interview, new information has come to light. And we spent time looking at that relationship between Iraq, on the one hand, and the al-Qaeda organization on the other. And there has been reporting that suggests that there have been a number of contacts over the years. We’ve seen in connection with the hijackers, of course, Mohamed Atta, who was the lead hijacker, did apparently travel to Prague on a number of occasions. And on at least one occasion, we have reporting that places him in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official a few months before the attack on the World Trade Center. The debates about, you know, was he there or wasn’t he there, again, it’s the intelligence business.

Mr. RUSSERT: What does the CIA say about that and the president?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: It’s credible. But, you know, I think a way to put it would be it’s unconfirmed at this point. We’ve got...


31 posted on 09/25/2002 6:55:37 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Miss Marple
I hope the Rats are stupid enough to demand that the President make his case before the Americian people in prime time.

Earlier today, on Fox News, Newt Gingrich suggested that when the time is right, the president should go to a joint session of Congress and make his case to the American people and explain exactly why we need to take military action against Iraq.

32 posted on 09/25/2002 7:10:02 PM PDT by slimer
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To: Miss Marple
today the rats in the senate kept repeating "no connection with alqueda" and I think Bush had this ready to hit them in the head with...

And it will only get worse every day, till november 5th.

Drip drip drip... hello majority... goodbye loser tom daschle.
33 posted on 09/25/2002 7:10:23 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"You got some preview predictions?"

After Bush's UN speech, a "senior WH staffer" was quoted: "That was Act I of a three act play."

I'm assuming that Tony Blair's dossier served as Act II.

So, that what we're seeing now is the introductory scenes of Act III. Which, according to the source, should be a "doozy"...

34 posted on 09/25/2002 7:11:22 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
-- were aired Thursday on PBS' "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer.''

Typo? Or super-secret slip letting out scripted news releases ahead of plan?? (I think I've got some cheese wrapped up in my tinfoil)

35 posted on 09/25/2002 7:13:50 PM PDT by sam_paine
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To: okie01
Poor Tommy the Dummy hes been HAD
36 posted on 09/25/2002 7:14:01 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: anniegetyourgun
I'm expecting one of those know-it-all leftists on FR to stop by anytime and start down that path.....

RIGHT ON, SISTA! Right on!

37 posted on 09/25/2002 7:19:16 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: terilyn
Rumsfeld, now Rice...slowly making the case and the connection.

Now I think I understand why Daschle went off the deep end today, we will be rolling very soon. Who had October in the Sadddam death pool?

38 posted on 09/25/2002 7:19:40 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: anniegetyourgun
I'm expecting one of those know-it-all leftists on FR to stop by anytime and start down that path.....

I doubt Saddam's FR fanclub is going to ever see the light....

39 posted on 09/25/2002 7:20:36 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: HAL9000
Iraq has the weapons, but can't deliver them w/o a massive counterattack. The Muslim terrorist have shown they can deliver, and survive the counterattack.

It is frightening how easily the image of a few thousand Muslim terrorists opening vials of a biological agent all over the US in a coordinated attack comes to mind.
40 posted on 09/25/2002 7:22:56 PM PDT by TheDon
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