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1 posted on 09/23/2002 6:56:26 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Your state is next.
2 posted on 09/23/2002 6:57:57 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
California is so doomed.
3 posted on 09/23/2002 7:00:27 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: ElkGroveDan; RFP
ping and please ping your lists. thanks

4 posted on 09/23/2002 7:03:23 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Actually, reading the article carefully, it isn't as bad as it sounds. You already get the 6 weeks, unpaid, with the federal law Clinton signed. With this, you basically get an average of $3 a month as an employee, deducted from your check, that is used for the fund that your employer isn't actually paying for themselves.

Employers hate this bill because it gives people the cushion to actually take the 6 weeks. Many people couldn't afford to take 6 weeks unpaid leave off work. So, it is a negative for business, but they are not directly paying for this bill.

6 posted on 09/23/2002 7:07:14 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: EveningStar
All business should move out of Ca. if they can. Why stay there? They get screwed by the left constantly. Retire, and move out, ASAP.
People in NY are fed up. Businesses in Upstate NY are practically non existant. They said good riddens. They got sick of liberals and their taxes and freebies at working class expence. New York city takes half of upstates money just to support the looser liberals. They're like social vampires down there!
7 posted on 09/23/2002 7:08:02 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: EveningStar
Man, I hope self-employed people are covered by this. A paid 6 week vacation every year. Sweet.
9 posted on 09/23/2002 7:10:21 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: EveningStar
Well this is another step down the path to the France-ification of America. They get a Government mandated month of paid "holiday" every year on top of the other leave their employer gives them. Of course these benefits have a price I wonder if people will start to complain when unemployment hits 15% and the minimum tax rate is 50%.
12 posted on 09/23/2002 7:13:33 PM PDT by apillar
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To: EveningStar
This should make my employees Very happy!!!

I haven't read the full text of the bill to see just what employers are required to do. I know the news is saying 55% of your weekly pay or 490.00 dollars. The hidden facts is what hurts us...

14 posted on 09/23/2002 7:17:24 PM PDT by jdontom
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To: EveningStar
Isn't California the golden state of welfare, deficits, and energy princes, run by a govenor with the midas touch for his own personal benefit, as he screws the serfs? Please note, in this state, serfs are the working class that pays taxes.
20 posted on 09/23/2002 7:24:23 PM PDT by harpo11
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I hope Davis wins. If not, then as California slides into hell from all he has done the idiots there will blame Simon.
21 posted on 09/23/2002 7:27:47 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: EveningStar
Perhaps we can loan our governor to China. I don't think they have any Pander Bears.

As if Californian's don't get stuck enough with an 8% plus sales tax, state income tax and federal income taxe, social security, SDI and Medicare. Now let's add on $7 per pay check to cover folks who want to sit on their ass for 90 days instead of being productive.

This is insane. The state is $30 billion in debt and Davis can't spend money fast enough.

28 posted on 09/23/2002 8:00:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: EveningStar
And we thought that the kamikazes were stupid.
29 posted on 09/23/2002 8:00:21 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: EveningStar
Top Stories - AP
 

                                    Calif. Enacts Paid Family Leave Bill
                                    Mon Sep 23,10:22 PM ET

                                    By PAUL CHAVEZ, Associated Press Writer

                                    LOS ANGELES (AP) - Gov. Gray Davis ( news - web sites) signed a law
                                    Monday that makes California the first state to offer workers paid family leave.

                                                       The law — financed by an employee payroll tax —
                                                       allows workers to take six weeks off to care for a
                                                       newborn, a newly adopted child or ill family member.
                                                       Employees will be eligible to receive 55 percent of
                                                       their wages during their absence, up to a maximum
                                                       of $728 a week.

                                                       "I don't want Californians to choose between being
                                                       good parents and good employees," said Davis, a
                                    Democrat running for re-election in November.

                                    Supporters hope the bill will serve as a nationwide model, while business
                                    groups denounced it as too costly for employers.

                                    Federal law grants up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave for workers at businesses
                                    with more than 50 employees.

                                    The paid-leave law is the latest of several groundbreaking social and
                                    environmental laws passed in California this year. Earlier, California became the
                                    first state to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. On Sunday, Davis signed a
                                    bill to allow stem cell research in the state — a move that runs counter to Bush
                                    administration policy.

                                    Under the new paid-leave program, workers will be allowed to start taking time
                                    off as of July 1, 2004.

                                    The program will be funded entirely by employee payroll deductions, averaging
                                    about $27 a year and ranging up to $70 a year for those earning more than
                                    $72,000 annually.

                                    About 13 million of California's 16 million workers will be eligible. State and local
                                    government employees contribute to a different plan.

                                    Businesses with fewer than 50 employees are not required to hold a job for a
                                    worker who goes on paid family leave, according to the AFL-CIO, which helped
                                    write the bill.

                                    Nevertheless, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney called the bill landmark
                                    legislation and said he hopes other states will follow suit.

                                    Twenty-seven other states, including Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey
                                    and Washington, have introduced similar legislation.

                                    GOP gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon, Davis' rival in the November election,
                                    called the bill a "one-size-fits-all mandate" that will prove too costly for small
                                    businesses.

                                    He said in a statement that workers should be able to decide whether to take
                                    part, and incentives should be offered to employers. "This avoids taxing every
                                    employee and employer in the labor force in order to provide a benefit not
                                    everyone wants," he said.

                                    California business groups had tried to kill the bill.

                                    "It's very discouraging, and California small businesses are going to pay the
                                    price for this bill," said Julianne Broyles, a lobbyist for the California Chamber of
                                    Commerce ( news - web sites). "They are going to have to compete with similar
                                    businesses in other states that don't have to contend with this."

                                    She said the law fails to address the real cost to employers, which includes
                                    paying for overtime, replacement workers and training to fill in for those who go
                                    on family leave.

30 posted on 09/23/2002 8:02:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: EveningStar
Thank you for posting this so that all can see just how important it is to go to the polls and vote on election day.

I found out that Joseph Graham Davis initially won by less than one vote per precinct.

Now, does ANYONE still wonder if their vote counts???

31 posted on 09/23/2002 8:07:03 PM PDT by NordP
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To: EveningStar
California has State Employees-- not workers. "Joe-Gray is giving away money faster than he can spend it. /sarcasm
32 posted on 09/23/2002 8:10:44 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: EveningStar
Davis is in the news literally everyday in California signing this bill and that bill. The problem is he ain't fooling anybody but himself, thinking this is effective politics. He is going to lose because the Wizard of Oz routine isn't working anymore.
36 posted on 09/23/2002 8:13:25 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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41 posted on 09/23/2002 8:57:34 PM PDT by EveningStar
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I wonder if there's a provision where I can opt out of paying in to this wealth redistribution scheme...
45 posted on 09/23/2002 9:57:17 PM PDT by mvpel
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A real shot-in-the-arm for Mexico's economy!
48 posted on 09/24/2002 6:13:00 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: EveningStar
This whole idea is soooooo ridiculous....I mean do you really believe that a person who wants to take 6 weeks off won't???? It is hard enough to get people to work now especially in the summer months...I mean who needs SIX FRIGGIN WEEKS ? What are they gonna do???? Build a new house??? I buried my mother in 2 days and was back to work on Monday>>>> Helloooooooo???????? And a woman has a baby she gets to keep her job while I have to hire someone else and train them and then fire them and hire the person on leave back??????? Does anybody in Sacramento have half a brain????????? Have any of these morons ever operated a business in their entire lives??????????
53 posted on 09/24/2002 9:19:17 AM PDT by kellynla
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