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Ex-astronaut escapes assault charge (BUZZ ALDRIN ALERT)
BBC News ^ | September 21, 2002 | BBC News

Posted on 09/21/2002 5:04:03 AM PDT by MadIvan

Californian authorities have decided against prosecuting former astronaut Buzz Aldrin after he punched a documentary maker who claimed his moon missions were faked.

Mr Aldrin, famous for his participation in the Apollo 11 moon landing in 1969, hit Bart Sibrel after he approached the former astronaut outside a hotel in Beverley Hills, Los Angeles and demanded he swear on a Bible that the landing was not staged.

Perhaps he should just have offered to adjust his tinfoil beanie for him - Ivan

Mr Aldrin responded by punching Mr Sibrel, but said he merely struck out to defend himself and his stepdaughter, who was with him at the time.

Beverly Hills police investigated the incident, which occurred 9 September, but said that the charges were dropped after witnesses came forward to say that Mr Sibrel had aggressively poked Mr Aldrin with the Bible before he was punched.

'False pretences'

Witnesses also told police that Mr Sibrel had lured Mr Aldrin to the hotel under false pretences in order to interview him.

Deputy District Attorney Elizabeth Ratinoff told Reuters news agency that a videotape shot by a cameraman hired by Mr Sibrel had shown the film-maker follow Mr Aldrin, calling him a "thief, liar and coward".

This fellow is lucky that Mr. Aldrin didn't tear his head off - Ivan

Mr Sibrel handed over the tape to police investigators, but as Mr Sibrel sustained no visible injury and did not seek medical attention, and Mr Aldrin had no previous criminal record, no charges were filed.

Mr Sibrel says his new documentary proves the Apollo 11 landings were faked by the Nasa space agency in order to fool the then-Soviet Union into thinking the US had beaten them in the space race.

The two countries had been embroiled in a desperate race to reach the moon, with the US initially trailing after the Soviets became the first to send a man into space and orbit the earth.

Moon walk

Mr Aldrin, the second man after Neil Armstrong to set foot on the moon in the Apollo 11 mission, is one of America's most famous space pioneers.

A former US Air Force pilot who flew in the Korean war, Mr Aldrin joined Nasa space agency in 1963.

Since his retirement from Nasa, Mr Aldrin has dedicated much of his time to publicising space travel for civilians.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: apollo11; assault; bartsibrel; beanie; buzzaldrin; idiot; punchhimharder; tinfoil
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And without Buzz Aldrin we wouldn't have this cracking Monty Python sketch:

Policeman: (Graham Chapman) Right. Right! RIGHT! Now then! Now then! Your turn.

Chemist: (Michael Palin) Aren't you going to say 'What's all this then?'?

Policeman: Oh! Right, what's all this, then?

Chemist: This man has been shoplifting, officer.

Policeman: Oh, he has? Yus?

Chemist: Yes.

Policeman: Are you trying to tell me my job?

Chemist: No, but he's been shoplifting.

Policeman: Look! I must warn you that anything you may say will be ignored and furthermore, given half a chance I'll put my fist through your teeth. F'tang. F'tang.

Man (Eric Idle): But officer, this man here...

Policeman: I've had enough of you. You're under arrest.

(He makes noises of plane flying and firing.)

Chemist: Officer, it wasn't him. (indicates shoplifter) He's the shoplifter.

Shoplifter: (Terry Jones) No I'm not.

Shoplifter's Mate: (sticking his head out of mac) He's not, I'm a witness.

Policeman: (to chemist) One more peep out of you and I'll do you for heresy.

Chemist: Heresy. Blimey. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

Policeman: Shut up! F'tang. F'tang. Oh, that's nice. (he takes an object off the counter and pockets it) Right. I'm taking you along to the station.

Man: What for?

Policeman: I'm charging you with illegal possession of whatever we happen to have down there. Right. Lunar module calling Buzz Aldrin. Come in. (makes plane noise again) Raindrops keep falling on my head, but that doesn't mean that my...

(Caption appears on screen: 'AN APOLOGY')

Voice Over: (John Cleese) The BBC would like to apologize to the police about the character of Police Constable Pan-Am. He was not meant to represent the average police officer. Similarly, the reference to Buzz Aldrin, the astronaut, was the product of a disordered mind and should not be construed as having any other significance. Photo of Buzz Aldrin.

(Superimposed caption on the screen: 'THE BUZZ ALDRIN SHOW STARRING BUZZ ALDRIN WITH... (CREDITS)' Cut to Gumbys as at start of show.)

Gumbys: And now for something completely different. (jump cut to female Gumbys; then back to original shot) Oh that was fun. And now (CAPTION: 'THE END') The end, The end! The end! The end!

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 09/21/2002 5:04:04 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: schmelvin; MJY1288; MozartLover; Teacup; rdb3; fivekid; jjm2111; LonePalm; Gracey; Aric2000; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 09/21/2002 5:04:34 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Is Mr. Sibrel someone we know? We seemed to have a few anti-apollo tinfoilers on here in the past... didn't one of them claim to be a film-maker?
3 posted on 09/21/2002 5:08:48 AM PDT by piasa
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To: MadIvan
I saw the video. Sibrel assaulted Dr. Aldrin.

In fact, Dr. Aldrin asked for police help BEFORE he defended himself.

4 posted on 09/21/2002 5:14:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: MadIvan
One small smack for Buzz, one giant shiner for Sibrel-kind ;-)
5 posted on 09/21/2002 5:14:32 AM PDT by Happygal
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To: Diogenesis
In fact, Dr. Aldrin asked for police help BEFORE he defended himself.

It's refreshing to see someone defend themselves against this sort of nonsense, actually. I am delighted Dr. Aldrin came out of it none the worse for wear.

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 09/21/2002 5:16:35 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I'll bet Sibrel 'saw stars' after Dr. Buzz took care of him!
7 posted on 09/21/2002 5:18:39 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: piasa
Golly, maybe there really is justice in this world.

Let's look at the record. Mr. Aldrin is combat-decorated pilot from the Korean War, a top notch guy all around, the second man on the moon by virtue of seating arrangements, among other things. Mr. Sibrel is some whiny, nasal-toned twit who sponges off the gullible by writing lies about our space program, and called a true American Hero a "coward and a liar" -- I would have loved to watch Buzz adjust that guy's jaw!

I listened to a radio interview with the moron in question, and the host asked him something along the lines of "Don't you feel ashamed to have been beat up by a 74 year old man? Are you going to press charges?"... LOL

8 posted on 09/21/2002 5:21:04 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: MadIvan
Sibrel is an obnoxious prick. My only regret is that Aldrin didn't get a better swing and switch off this jerk's lights.
9 posted on 09/21/2002 5:21:26 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Freedom4US
I saw a nice replay of the swing, and I have to admit it was beautiful and swift for a guy that age. I would have liked to see him land another... and another...on the surface of ol' moonface.

That was one small swing for a man, one giant wallop for mankind.

10 posted on 09/21/2002 5:25:40 AM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa; AmericanInTokyo
Buzz Lightyear to the rescue!

Way to go Buzz.

Sibrel saw stars... LOL

11 posted on 09/21/2002 5:38:41 AM PDT by Northern Yankee
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To: MadIvan

I bet the news has made these little tykes very happy.
12 posted on 09/21/2002 5:46:10 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: MadIvan
Here is Bart Sibrel's website
13 posted on 09/21/2002 6:01:37 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Jalapeno

Here he is..pre-punch.

14 posted on 09/21/2002 6:03:14 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: MadIvan
There are all sorts of interesting things whackos believe due to junk science. Here is an excellent resource: Phil Blat's Bad Astronomy Page

The "Deadly Van Allen Belt" attack against the moon landing is popular, but stupid at best.

Here is a rebuttal to those charges

15 posted on 09/21/2002 6:11:44 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: Jalapeno
He looks like a right prat. He should have kept his mouth shut and not proven the impression.

Regards, Ivan

16 posted on 09/21/2002 6:15:42 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Astronaut Edwin E. Aldrin Jr., lunar module pilot, poses for a photograph beside the deployed United States flag during Apollo 11 extravehicular activity on the lunar surface. The Lunar Module "Eagle" is on the left. The footprints of the astronauts are clearly visible in the soil of the moon. This picture was taken by Astronaut Neil A. Armstrong, commander, with a 70mm lunar surface camera.

17 posted on 09/21/2002 6:21:36 AM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: MadIvan
Mr Aldrin responded by punching Mr Sibrel,

I don't believe this occurred. Any evidence they have of this is faked.

18 posted on 09/21/2002 6:36:47 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
I agree 100%. The tape was obviously manufactured at a Hollywood soundstage.
19 posted on 09/21/2002 7:37:01 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Jalapeno

Here he is...post-punch.

20 posted on 09/21/2002 8:22:56 AM PDT by Physicist
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