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Rumsfeld Solidifies Aim To Move CentCom
Tampa Tribune/TBO.com ^ | September 20, 2002 | Keith Epstein

Posted on 09/20/2002 12:35:42 PM PDT by NautiNurse



Rumsfeld Solidifies Aim To Move CentCom

Published: Sep 20, 2002

WASHINGTON - During testimony on possible war with Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard B. Myers, the president's chief military adviser, on Thursday kept open the possibility of permanently moving Central Command, the Tampa-based headquarters for managing U.S. forces from Africa to Southeast Asia.

Rumsfeld's testimony, during a Senate Armed Services Committee review of the Bush administration's request to use all means to overthrow Saddam Hussein, surprised Sen. Bill Nelson, a member of the committee, and quickly sent a fresh round of shock waves south.

``It's clear to me that what he intends to do is move Central Command. He was signaling his intent and the White House's intent,'' said Nelson, a Tallahassee Democrat, after Thursday's hearing on Capitol Hill. ``In my opinion, [Rumsfeld] has already decided to move'' CentCom.

Nelson said he will seek additional discussions with the Pentagon and will rally other members of the Florida delegation against a change.

``Were going to have to find out what we can do, if anything,'' he said. ``The president does have the power to direct that these commands be moved. The Congress cannot prevent that.''

Neither Rumsfeld nor Myers said a decision had been made on the fate of CentCom, which directed the war in Afghanistan and is preparing to shift some 600 staff members to a new air base in Qatar to test the readiness of a mobile command and communications facility, possibly as a prelude to war.

Now the exercise is being seen as the potential precursor to a more permanent move.

Myers stressed the temporary nature of the shift. ``We are talking about a forward element that could be used from time to time,'' he said.

But during Thursday's testimony, neither Rumsfeld nor Myers backed away from statements suggesting the door was open to a more permanent shift.

``Is that what you are speaking of, a forward element?'' asked Nelson. ``Or are you talking about a complete relocation of the Central Command?''

Responded Myers: ``It's to be decided how permanent a forward element you would have, how large it would be. You would certainly ... want to have some infrastructure there that people could fall in ... rather than having to lay that in every time. Terribly expensive to do it that way.''

Rumsfeld repeated statements that already had raised eyebrows in the Tampa Bay area when he appeared to ridicule the logic of overseeing operations in distant battle zones such as Afghanistan or Iraq from MacDill Air Force Base.

``It's the time zones,'' Rumsfeld told the committee. ``It makes everything a little harder.''

He added that ``the European Command is in Europe. Our Pacific Command is in the Pacific. And our Central Command, for that whole region, Afghanistan and the Middle East, that whole portion of the world, is in Tampa, Florida.

``That does not say anything against Tampa, Florida, except that Tampa, Florida, happens not to be located in the Central Command'' region.

An Old Complaint

Within the military, frustration over the command's distance from the field ``preceded me,'' Rumsfeld said. Before becoming defense secretary, ``the Central Command has had concern about its location.''

Rumsfeld noted that Gen. Tommy Franks, CentCom combatant commander, ``has ever since I arrived raised this issue with me,'' and was finally ``moving some pieces of things so he and some of his key people will be capable of functioning in that part of the world.''

Rumsfeld pointed out that Florida has several other key military installations, including some at MacDill, and praised the state's hospitality toward the military.

Nelson said he thought that was an attempt at consolation, that even without CentCom, ``you've still got everything else.''

He said he didn't buy Rumsfeld's complaints about time zones, especially given technological innovation and CentCom's proven ability to manage wars via satellite, optic fiber and video.

Politics may influence the base's fate. The Tampa Bay area is a key battleground in campaigns, and Florida is a swing state. Not only would the president's brother, Jeb, like to win re-election as governor, but the parties are also vying for dominance in the next presidential election.

International politics also may be an important factor. Sensitivities and instabilities in the Mideast and Asia have made it impossible to move CentCom before.

Mike Pheneger, a retired Army colonel and former deputy director of intelligence at CentCom, noted the long-standing wishes of the military for a forward presence - closer to fields of conflict - because of the relative ease of managing operations.

Where To Put It?

The history of CentCom is rife with discussions about whether to move and speculation about why it exists in Tampa rather than any number of other locations. The command is responsible for a 3,600-mile-long swath from northern Africa to Southeast Asia, covering 25 nations.

``Of course if you're in a unified command you want to be in the area. Central Command and the Pentagon have wanted that for years,'' said Retired Gen. Charles Wilhelm, until 2000 commander in chief of the Southern Command.

Reporters Kathy Steele and George Coryell contributed to this report.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: centcom; centralcommand; rumsfeld; tampa
Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) was just interviewed on Bay News 9. He is adamantly opposed to relocation of CentCom from Tampa.

I did several searches, and didn't see this posted.

1 posted on 09/20/2002 12:35:43 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
well tough patooties there Senator Nelson. Maybe if ya had been nicer to Jeb and GW ya would not be in this fix cause i am sure those 600 staffers spend millions of dollars a year at local places.BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
2 posted on 09/20/2002 12:38:53 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: NautiNurse
I'd like to see CentCom relocated to Iraq.
3 posted on 09/20/2002 12:48:15 PM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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To: NautiNurse
He is adamantly opposed to relocation of CentCom from Tampa.

…for purely political reasons. Operationally, it is best for the CINC to be in his area of responsibility (AOR). And, yes, time zones differences create real problems.

4 posted on 09/20/2002 12:53:37 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair
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To: Fundamentally Fair
From the tone of the article, it sounds like Nelson (D-FL) had a rug pulled out from under him, and a near-fatal blow to the ever-important ego.
5 posted on 09/20/2002 1:00:51 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
Typical. No consideration of what the military needs are, just a pure political ploy.

Of course, this all arose because neither the JCOS nor the State Dept ever IMAGINED the Saudis refusing us use of Prince Sultan as a Forward CentComHQ in case we ever needed it.

What a colossal misjudgement and misappreciation of our true friends and allies, the Saudis.

Of course, all these mucky mucks are paid to anticipate.
That they did not do so is shameful. There are no excuses at the top levels for failing to understand that the Saudis were estranged from us long before the September Attacks.

Yet we persist in the naivete of believing the Saudis. Of course, it's got nothing to do with money.

Rumsfeld Rocks!
6 posted on 09/20/2002 1:30:09 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: NautiNurse
The command is responsible for a 3,600-mile-long swath from northern Africa to Southeast Asia, covering 25 nations.


7 posted on 09/20/2002 1:34:29 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: The Vast Right Wing
I heard the proposed "Lake Baghdad" area is prime real estate, perfect waterfront property for CENTCOM.
8 posted on 09/20/2002 2:40:44 PM PDT by Pray4PeacePrepare4War
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To: swarthyguy
Yet we persist in the naivete of believing the Saudis. Of course, it's got nothing to do with money.

The justice department today put Saudi Arabia on the list of nations that harbor terrorists. Saudi citizens will be searched and travel to the USA restricted. IT was a major surprise to the Saudis.

I have felt that hte decision was made shortly after 911 to take on the militant muslim nations one at a time and changing their governments to American client states.

I was quite shocked when Bush started making noises about Saddam before we had taken the Taliban down. But he started it as soon as he was certain of our victory over the Taliban. That ment that what is happening now was planned at least 10 months ago.

Today was the first step in taking on the Saudi Arabians. This is before we take down Sadam. I have the stranges feeling that Bush intends to take down the entire militant muslim power structure in the world. In Afganistan first, Iraq Second, Saudi third and Iran 4th. With araft thrown in for good meaure along the way.

I think it is a take them down, but we will do it one at a time.

It would cure the middle east, oil supply and the economy. That is an attractive combination. There is reason we are making the UN irrelevent. We I think are going to do a number of things of which neither the UN or Europe would approve.

2003 and 2004 are going to be exciting years. I felt the Saudis were making a tragic mistake by turning us down on Afghanistan. Bush is a different type of politician. Don't look at what he says. Look at what he does. When he says nothing at the time, it does not mean he will not act. It just means he does not tip his hand.

I often don't care much for what Bush says. I tend to like very much what he does. I can live with that!

9 posted on 09/20/2002 10:16:33 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: NautiNurse
Good catch- I haven't seen it either. Nelson is a nerd- with war looming in that region, it is silly to have the commanders 3 time zones away.
Florida still has SouthCom-
10 posted on 09/21/2002 9:54:23 AM PDT by Goldwater Girl
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