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Defying Ann Coulter
http://www.intellectualconservative.com ^ | Thursday, 19 September 2002 | Brian S. Wise

Posted on 09/19/2002 5:08:10 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise

Every once in awhile, someone says “no” to Ann Coulter, and a light-duty controversy ensues; typically you’ll see debate whenever some odd person or organization has the nerve to refuse a prominent woman’s desires, demands and / or opinions (e.g. the recent controversy over female memberships at Augusta National), but things are always different when Ann Coulter is the woman in question. The newest controversy began with a column, “Battered Republican Syndrome,” in which she fired off the following salvo:

“This [the Kennedy family badmouthing the Bush family out of turn] is as we have come to expect from a family of heroin addicts, statutory rapists, convicted and unconvicted female-killers, cheaters, bootleggers and dissolute drunks known as ‘Camelot.’ Why would anyone want such people as ‘good friends’?” (Well then! Let it be said here that some of debate’s most unbelievable battles have been drawn around the bodies of the Kennedy boys; the most savagely your author has ever been handled in a debate was the night it came from the conservative podium, “Am I supposed to respect them [JFK and RFK] because they each used Marilyn Monroe as a spittoon?”)

The Centre Daily Times, a State College, Pennsylvania newspaper, took that as the last straw and dropped Coulter’s column from its pages, having previously informed its readers that the column was on probation (as it were) due to the frankness of her views and the manner in which they were conveyed. On The O’Reilly Factor, Times editor Bob Unger went to reasonable lengths to say 1) that his paper is basically a moderate paper in a largely Right-wing town, 2) that Coulter is a hater of Democrats, liberals, environmentalists and “most Muslims,” and that, 3) a majority of mail sent to his paper plainly stated they were okay with the column’s removal because people are “tired of hate.” Safe to say no vote was needed on whether or not people are tired of hate.

In defense of Ann Coulter: she is an asset to a movement (conservatism) that is, generally speaking, much too plaintive and soft spoken for its own good, that refuses to recognize the rest of the world has modernized while it hasn’t, that will not face its opposition (liberalism) in the same manner in which it is continuously treated. Coulter’s tendency is to respond to liberalism as it has responded to conservatism over the years, with open contempt. In terms of tone, she has said nothing here of the Kennedy’s that hasn’t been said of President Bush’s family, by the Left, with the accusations changed to retain relevance.

It also bares mentioning, though it should seem obvious, that Coulter gets as good as she gives; the difference between “Battered Republican Syndrome” and Thor Helsa’s old “Ann of a Thousand Lays” column for salon.com (in which it is suggested Coulter injects herself with her own urine to stay thin) is that Helsa’s piece is considered high comedy by its primary audience, while Coulter’s blasts are considered hate speech. (One cannot help but wonder if this is because Coulter’s work is actually being read by enough people to register an impact. How many bestsellers has Thor Helsa had?)

Now to the other side: The more often someone is dumped, the less likely it becomes the person being dumped is simply misunderstood (cf. Coulter’s previous problems with National Review Online). A certain act can play itself out in a column distributed, say, to Internet-only audiences, but when it comes to newspaper syndication, one should probably exercise a little more decorum. (Your author wouldn’t, for example, refer to Marilyn Monroe’s being used as a spittoon had this column been written for the Wall Street Journal.)

Those who appreciate Coulter (I am one) cannot help but wonder whether or not she consistently stacks the deck against herself because she enjoys the challenge (“I Stand Alone Against the World”) or because she is a keener public relations maven than originally suspected. No matter the overall truth of the Kennedy statement (and there’s nothing but truth in it), Coulter’s thought pattern doesn’t always translate well to those not as vehement in their objections, especially over breakfast.

Anyone who openly defies or opposes Ann Coulter is her enemy; whether or not this is inherently healthy as a personal philosophy can be debated (though one suspects not), even if on a base level people appreciate protectionism of one’s allies and beliefs. Problem is, the more managing editors she alienates, the less likely it is Coulter will be taken seriously, and the damage done then is not only to her reputation, but to conservatism in general, which her fans hope she comes to consider.


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To: NittanyLion
Good info; nice posting.
141 posted on 09/20/2002 5:54:19 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: BrianS.Wise
You avoid detailing significant errors in writings and instead attack her on frankness and style...a forte of the democratic left and many student newspapers.

Suggest you start wearing a tin-suit to ward off radiation that must have impacted reasoned brain functioning so typical in neophyte writings:


142 posted on 09/20/2002 5:58:01 AM PDT by rmvh
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To: BrianS.Wise
Good info; nice posting.

Thanks. FWIW, I agree with the column. My suspicion is that Coulter has decided bombast will gain her notoriety, which will in turn gain her money (with the possible benefit of advancing conservatism). Personally, I can't stand Carville, Begala and their ilk precisely because of their argumentation style. And I don't like it in conservatives any better.

143 posted on 09/20/2002 5:59:42 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: rmvh
Well, it wasn't significant errors that got her dismissed from this one paper, it was her style, but I'll certainly look into the tinfoil suit.
144 posted on 09/20/2002 6:00:51 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: NittanyLion
There's a time and a place; if it were me, civility would reign until the moment some liberal becomes Carville-like, and then the gloves come off. I can fire my shots (I'm a little surprised no one has commented on my Monroe-as-spittoon line, an example) and appreciate those circumstances where it seems necessary, but in column writing isn't always the place.
145 posted on 09/20/2002 6:03:46 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: BrianS.Wise
Ann Coulter has a habit of backing her incredibly sarcastic and humorous but true charges against liberals with lots of facts, quotes and citations, effectively exposing their critiques for what they are: whining and very nasty name-calling. Live forever, Ann.
146 posted on 09/20/2002 6:06:11 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: Phaedrus
Yep, love her, just had those concerns, that's all ...
147 posted on 09/20/2002 6:08:38 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: SrBahamonde
I agreed with the Kennedy line and gave thoughts for and against her ways, not sure what else I could have done other than make some other stuff up.
149 posted on 09/20/2002 6:18:43 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: BrianS.Wise
My only concern about Ann Coulter is that she is not broadcast into our homes on a daily basis and published by the New York Times. She is a beacon of truth in a sea of mendacity. It's way past time for this Culture of Liberal Lies to be exposed.
150 posted on 09/20/2002 6:25:39 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: BrianS.Wise
In general, Carvile is wrong. But not always, and certainly not when we are caught with our hands in the cookie jar.

Certainly when it comes to core values, philosophy and so forth that reflect me, Carvile is way off base. But he does score when he connects on our shortcomings.

That's why liberals enjoy his being a jackass just as we (conservatives in general) enjoy Coulter doing her version of it.

Frankly, I think other that satisfying those who want someone out there lobbing one liners, Coulter does more to drive away those who are sitting on the fence or want to learn more. If you're already in the amen camp, then she's we've simply proven she's preaching to the choir.

151 posted on 09/20/2002 6:33:40 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Phaedrus
Do you honestly believe that Ann would have an impact if she was on tv everynight on in the NYT? Honestly?

She would be about as sucessful as Alan Keyes was on MSNBC. No one from the general population gravitated to his show. Sure, his groupies did. But where was the big swell from his show? Didn't happen. 60% of all households have cable, yet a suprisingly LOW number sought out Keyes. People flipping through didn't even stop to see what was going on.....cause he didn't provide something they were looking for.

152 posted on 09/20/2002 6:46:25 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: BrianS.Wise
What has happened to FR? A 150 post Ann Coulter thread, and no pictures??????
153 posted on 09/20/2002 6:47:34 AM PDT by machman
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To: joesbucks
I don't know if anyone in general gravitates to MSNBC, do they? Other than Dan Abrams, what do they have that's worth watching?
154 posted on 09/20/2002 6:48:41 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: machman
Somewhere within the first 50, I think, there's a link to some captures from an episode of Politically Incorrect ... not that I would remember such a thing.
155 posted on 09/20/2002 6:49:33 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: BrianS.Wise
Chris Matthews is okay; I forgot about him.
156 posted on 09/20/2002 6:52:24 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: stlrocket
O'Reilley did say that what she said about the Kennedys was not untrue.
157 posted on 09/20/2002 6:58:13 AM PDT by clodkicker
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To: joesbucks
Do you honestly believe that Ann would have an impact if she was on tv everynight on in the NYT?

I know that she sells tons of books and that she tells the truth in a very-much-needed, humorous but in-your-face sort of way. Do you think we Americans, on average, are just idiots? Should we blame the victim?

158 posted on 09/20/2002 6:58:29 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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To: clodkicker
He did, but he qualified it with the consideration excepting the Kennedy women, who never seem to be caught up in the normal silliness. I can't recall his exact quote, though he referred to black sheep.
159 posted on 09/20/2002 7:01:24 AM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: gcruse
Then the mistake shine out like searchlights. It is an amazing transformation.

Wow! You even provided us with a nice example of it. :-)

160 posted on 09/20/2002 7:01:58 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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