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Defying Ann Coulter
http://www.intellectualconservative.com ^ | Thursday, 19 September 2002 | Brian S. Wise

Posted on 09/19/2002 5:08:10 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise

Every once in awhile, someone says “no” to Ann Coulter, and a light-duty controversy ensues; typically you’ll see debate whenever some odd person or organization has the nerve to refuse a prominent woman’s desires, demands and / or opinions (e.g. the recent controversy over female memberships at Augusta National), but things are always different when Ann Coulter is the woman in question. The newest controversy began with a column, “Battered Republican Syndrome,” in which she fired off the following salvo:

“This [the Kennedy family badmouthing the Bush family out of turn] is as we have come to expect from a family of heroin addicts, statutory rapists, convicted and unconvicted female-killers, cheaters, bootleggers and dissolute drunks known as ‘Camelot.’ Why would anyone want such people as ‘good friends’?” (Well then! Let it be said here that some of debate’s most unbelievable battles have been drawn around the bodies of the Kennedy boys; the most savagely your author has ever been handled in a debate was the night it came from the conservative podium, “Am I supposed to respect them [JFK and RFK] because they each used Marilyn Monroe as a spittoon?”)

The Centre Daily Times, a State College, Pennsylvania newspaper, took that as the last straw and dropped Coulter’s column from its pages, having previously informed its readers that the column was on probation (as it were) due to the frankness of her views and the manner in which they were conveyed. On The O’Reilly Factor, Times editor Bob Unger went to reasonable lengths to say 1) that his paper is basically a moderate paper in a largely Right-wing town, 2) that Coulter is a hater of Democrats, liberals, environmentalists and “most Muslims,” and that, 3) a majority of mail sent to his paper plainly stated they were okay with the column’s removal because people are “tired of hate.” Safe to say no vote was needed on whether or not people are tired of hate.

In defense of Ann Coulter: she is an asset to a movement (conservatism) that is, generally speaking, much too plaintive and soft spoken for its own good, that refuses to recognize the rest of the world has modernized while it hasn’t, that will not face its opposition (liberalism) in the same manner in which it is continuously treated. Coulter’s tendency is to respond to liberalism as it has responded to conservatism over the years, with open contempt. In terms of tone, she has said nothing here of the Kennedy’s that hasn’t been said of President Bush’s family, by the Left, with the accusations changed to retain relevance.

It also bares mentioning, though it should seem obvious, that Coulter gets as good as she gives; the difference between “Battered Republican Syndrome” and Thor Helsa’s old “Ann of a Thousand Lays” column for salon.com (in which it is suggested Coulter injects herself with her own urine to stay thin) is that Helsa’s piece is considered high comedy by its primary audience, while Coulter’s blasts are considered hate speech. (One cannot help but wonder if this is because Coulter’s work is actually being read by enough people to register an impact. How many bestsellers has Thor Helsa had?)

Now to the other side: The more often someone is dumped, the less likely it becomes the person being dumped is simply misunderstood (cf. Coulter’s previous problems with National Review Online). A certain act can play itself out in a column distributed, say, to Internet-only audiences, but when it comes to newspaper syndication, one should probably exercise a little more decorum. (Your author wouldn’t, for example, refer to Marilyn Monroe’s being used as a spittoon had this column been written for the Wall Street Journal.)

Those who appreciate Coulter (I am one) cannot help but wonder whether or not she consistently stacks the deck against herself because she enjoys the challenge (“I Stand Alone Against the World”) or because she is a keener public relations maven than originally suspected. No matter the overall truth of the Kennedy statement (and there’s nothing but truth in it), Coulter’s thought pattern doesn’t always translate well to those not as vehement in their objections, especially over breakfast.

Anyone who openly defies or opposes Ann Coulter is her enemy; whether or not this is inherently healthy as a personal philosophy can be debated (though one suspects not), even if on a base level people appreciate protectionism of one’s allies and beliefs. Problem is, the more managing editors she alienates, the less likely it is Coulter will be taken seriously, and the damage done then is not only to her reputation, but to conservatism in general, which her fans hope she comes to consider.


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To: BrianS.Wise
There's room for all kinds of people in a movement as broad as "conservatism."

Sure, some of Ann Coulter's stuff is just as mean as anything Serpent-Head has come up with. But there are two major points of difference between Coulter and Carville. 1) Coulter is sharp and funny. 2) What she says is true.

Sure, it's not nice to point out that the Kennedy family is dysfunctional, but when the Kennedys continue to consider it their right to run the country and get elected to any office they happen to run for, then they are fair game. Especially they are fair game when they insult President Bush for naming a building after themselves.

101 posted on 09/19/2002 7:12:07 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: bobsatwork
Anyone hear Imus jump all over Begala this morning? He asked him what was wrong with him and how did he get so twisted. For years the liberals have gotten away with making stupid statements and not being called on them. Now they are and the sissies can't handle it. Ask yourself how can Savage be so popular if everyone is so offended. This is just more dis information trying to make those like Coulter change her tactics. She is doing good and should ignore the critics.
102 posted on 09/19/2002 7:15:51 PM PDT by willyone
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To: BrianS.Wise
"Demagogue: One who preaches a doctrine he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots."
-Henry Louis Mencken
Ann Colter is an anti-demagogue because she preaches the truth to the same people.
103 posted on 09/19/2002 7:18:01 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: BrianS.Wise
Explain why Ann should have to watch what she says, but Molly Ivins has a free rein?

I saw the interview with the editor last night on O'Reilly and I thought he was an idiot. I'm sick of people who are more concerned about "how something is said" than what is actually being done! The good news is, we'll never hear of the editor again!

104 posted on 09/19/2002 7:21:04 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: marron
George Bush kissing Teds fat ass made me want to puke. Country club Pubbies like Bush will never understand that Dems. like Kennedy will only settle for total destruction of any opposing point of view.
105 posted on 09/19/2002 7:21:08 PM PDT by willyone
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To: lonestar
As previously noted here, I hadn't thought of Molly Ivins at all, but it's certainly a valid point.
106 posted on 09/19/2002 7:22:47 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: BrianS.Wise
"(Your author wouldn’t, for example, refer to Marilyn Monroe’s being used as a spittoon had this column been written for the Wall Street Journal.)"

We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
-George Orwell

107 posted on 09/19/2002 7:23:46 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: jraven
Her credibility goes down each day.

On the contrary: her willingness to speak her mind in that wondrously satirical way is winning us new converts every day. Not since PJ O'Rourke first graced paper has a conservative essayist attracted so much public attention. One of her is worth more than a whole country club full of old-dude Republicans.

I'm most proud to have someone like Ann on our side.

108 posted on 09/19/2002 7:24:36 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: BrianS.Wise
Many years ago, Volkswagen was running ads touting their vehicles being well-fit together. They showed VW's floating, i.e., so well sealed it didn't sink.

The National Lampoon published a perfect (Onion-style) duplicate ad, which said, "If Ted Kennedy had been driving one of these..."

As I recall, the Kennedies sued them and made them retract and recall the issue.

--Boris

109 posted on 09/19/2002 7:30:16 PM PDT by boris
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To: boris
Ha ha ha ha ha ha That's great!
110 posted on 09/19/2002 7:31:21 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: jraven
" I assume I will not see complaints when the liberals do it to our candidates if we think it is just wonderful when Ann Coulter does the same thing"

Quit being so dramatic. The Rats have been doing this crap for years. They just can't handle a little taste of their own medicine.

111 posted on 09/19/2002 8:01:39 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: habs4ever
Yep...talk about over-rated.

I don't get the Coulter fascination at all. If you want an abrasive and funny attack-dog conservative.....PJ O'Rourke has more intelligence, wit, and writing ability in his little finger than Coulter does in her whole anorexic body.

And where did the idea that she's attractive come from? Sheesh. Yick. Well, she isn't Helen Thomas, that's about all you can say for her.
112 posted on 09/19/2002 8:15:51 PM PDT by John H K
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To: BrianS.Wise
I think this guy Unger is a big phony. He said, on O'Reilly, that he got about 6000 communications on his action and that they almost all supported him. I don't believe it. Many FReepers e-mailed him on this and I doubt that they supported his action. And where would 6000 communications come from out of his small circulation.

Nope, I think this guy is full of ----. He has used his "firing" of Ann to get his 15 minutes of fame. BTW, O'Reilly really fed this guy softballs. That's due to his admiration of the Kennedys (Bobby, Jack) I guess.

This guy was looking for a reason, a pretext. He probably has substituted Kristol or another of the "girly boys" for her column, what do you bet?

Regards.

113 posted on 09/19/2002 8:29:30 PM PDT by The Irishman
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To: brat
"PC has saturated the Republicans too. It will be the death of this nation."

Have faith. Life is filled with slow pendulums. What was ok for one generation is often revered by the following generation while the generation after that rebels again and adopts something much closer to their parents' beliefs. America is a strong country and can withstand PC.

114 posted on 09/19/2002 8:44:34 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: narby
He claims that his paper has gotten thousands of message about their cancelling Coulters column, and the vast majority were in favor of it.

I saw that and I too thought he was full of S%^$.

115 posted on 09/19/2002 8:50:10 PM PDT by RepubMommy
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To: DakotaGator
"Brian, I'm glad you shared your opinions on this. You are doing your bit. And so are Ann & Rush."

How do we get Newt back on the public stage. He is another intellectual heavyweight who speaks the truth forcefully and infuriates the Dims as a result.


116 posted on 09/19/2002 8:53:06 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: John H K
The problem Ann has is her intelligence goes way over the head of most people. I get what she says, sometimes you have to think just the opposite of her statements to get the true meaning. She is sarcastic with the truth and the libs hate her for it.
117 posted on 09/19/2002 8:59:35 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John H K
And where did the idea that she's attractive come from? Sheesh. Yick. Well, she isn't Helen Thomas, that's about all you can say for her.

I doubt that any girly-boy would find Ann attractive.

I'll give you a clue. But don't get your panties in a bunch and start a crying jag on us for pointing it out. Here is the attractive Ann situation in a nutshell.

It is a masculine, male thing. She appeals to them. She is filled with passion and masculine men can sense it. And they desire it. .... See, I knew you wouldn't understand


118 posted on 09/19/2002 9:00:38 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: jraven
"She speaks their language"

No jraven, as much as you might not want to believe it, Ann Coulter consistently speaks the truth backed up with references to verify what she says. People like the Clinton twin demons, Carville, Begala, etc. consistently DO NOT tell the truth. They color things, they use innuendo, photo ops and outright lies to advance their agendas without regard to the effects on their constituents. There's a big difference btwn Ann Coulter and liberals - truth vs. lies is a rather vast and stark difference.
119 posted on 09/19/2002 9:09:22 PM PDT by Chu Gary
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To: John H K
no one reads or gives a darn about p who ever!
120 posted on 09/19/2002 9:11:46 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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