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Right-wing governments 'increase suicide rates' [Liberals can't live w/ rational polititians]
New Scientist.com ^ | 9/19/02 | Andy Coghlan

Posted on 09/19/2002 10:40:19 AM PDT by 1bigdictator

Right-wing governments 'increase suicide rates'

23:01 18 September 02

NewScientist.com news service

Right-wing governments may sap some people's will to live and result in more suicides, conclude studies in Britain and Australia.

The researchers speculate that losers are more likely to kill themselves in the individualistic, "winner-takes-all" societies favoured by right wing governments, because they are left to fend for themselves. Wide disparities in wealth also sharpen any sense of hopelessness, the researchers argue.

"If you fail under that ideology, it would accentuate your feelings of failure," says Mary Shaw, whose team at the University of Bristol analysed suicide trends in England and Wales over the past century.

Left wing governments tend to be more "inclusive" and community based, she says, decreasing the isolation felt by people down on their luck. Shaw's team calculates that over the past century, 35,000 extra suicides occurred when the Tories were in power.

"That's equivalent to one suicide for every day of the 20th Century, or two for every day that the Conservatives ruled," the team write in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health.

Britain's Conservative Party declined to comment on the findings.

Double trouble

Shaw and her colleagues found that on average, suicide rates were 17 per cent higher when the Conservatives were in power, compared to the annual average of 103 suicides per million population when opposition parties held office.

Richard Taylor and his team in the School of Public Health at the University of Sydney found similar trends over the past century in New South Wales. When Right-wing governments were in power, men were 17 per cent more likely and women 40 per cent more likely to commit suicide.

They report that rates were highest whenever Right wing governments held power both at federal and state levels.

Both studies reached their conclusions after taking into account other factors that affect suicide rates, such as economic slumps, wartime, and even a surge of suicides among women in the 1960s when sedatives became widely available.

"You've never had it so good"

But the same trend always emerged, even at times of economic boom such as the "you've-never-had-it-so-good" years when Harold MacMillan led the UK's Tory government between 1957 and 1963.

During that time, annual suicides peaked at 137 per million population. Shaw points out that rates were almost as high in the 1930s (135 per million) when Labour's Ramsay McDonald headed a coalition, but she believes the primary reason then was the century's worst economic slump.

The lowest rate was 85 per million, during the Liberal government of David Lloyd George between 1916 and 1920. Now, under Tony Blair, it is back to the non-Conservative average of 103, down from 121 during Margaret Thatcher's first term in the early 1980s.

Shaw admits that attempts to connect the differences to ideologies are pure speculation. "But I'd be very interested to see if suicide rates are higher wherever there's a Right-wing government," she says. "I'd be particularly interested to see if the relationship holds in the US."

A study published in July 2001 found that US Republicans are almost three times more likely to have nightmares than Democrats. But a Republican spokesman told New Scientist at the time: "If we are, it's because we're left cleaning up the mess left by eight years of Bill Clinton. We sleep better now Bush is in the White House."

Journal reference: Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health. (vol 56, p 723, p 766)

Andy Coghlan


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dumass; liberals
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1 posted on 09/19/2002 10:40:19 AM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: 1bigdictator
Whereas Left-leaning, Socialist, and Communist governments were left with the burden of acting as the middle-man, slaughtering over 100 million of their own citizens whether they wanted to die or not.
2 posted on 09/19/2002 10:44:41 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: 1bigdictator
< "Left wing governments tend to be more "inclusive" and community based, she says, decreasing the isolation felt by people down on their luck."

Stop.... my heart is bleeding.... I feel your pain.... I empathize w/ your feelings.... Here, take all the money I earned, maybe that will change your "Luck". It's amazing how "Lucky" hard working ppl are.

3 posted on 09/19/2002 10:46:41 AM PDT by 1bigdictator
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Right-wing governments 'increase suicide rates'

Evolution in action.

4 posted on 09/19/2002 10:46:49 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: 1bigdictator
Give me a welfare check. What, you want me to get a job? I'll show you, you'll be sorry when I'm dead.

Buh-bye.

5 posted on 09/19/2002 10:47:06 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: EggsAckley
Niven fan?
6 posted on 09/19/2002 10:48:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Teacher317
Most of these people would end up killing themselves because they believed an Ozzy Osbourne song told them to do it, or something else silly like that. Something was going to get them one way or another.
7 posted on 09/19/2002 10:48:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1bigdictator
Leftist governments are for losers, right wing governments are for winners. Simple.
8 posted on 09/19/2002 10:52:30 AM PDT by EricT.
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To: EggsAckley; Texaggie79
Evolution in action.

Bump!

9 posted on 09/19/2002 10:54:11 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: EggsAckley
Right-wing governments 'increase suicide rates'

Evolution in action.

hmmmmm . . . I was going to say "winnowing."

10 posted on 09/19/2002 10:58:55 AM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: 1bigdictator
Better title: "Right-wing Governments Better at Reducing Population Growth."
11 posted on 09/19/2002 11:00:49 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: 1bigdictator
This is as valid as the one about how 98% of people on death row like bread so obviously if we eliminate bread then there will be a decrease in crimes that result in the death penalty...what a maroon, sheesh!
12 posted on 09/19/2002 11:01:25 AM PDT by TMD
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To: BrooklynGOP
I guess this means that there were no suicides in Commie Russia huh?
13 posted on 09/19/2002 11:01:55 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Doug Loss
Good title, and forward article w/ new title to all African nations.
14 posted on 09/19/2002 11:03:38 AM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: 1bigdictator; mhking
Mhking ping
15 posted on 09/19/2002 11:05:18 AM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: 1bigdictator
As a person who has faced suicide in the face and walked away I say this is no laughing matter. Rather I say what can I do to drive these vermin closer to the brink? The world is better off without these scum bags anyways.

Betcha didn't think that was where I was going for a moment there did you? LOL

16 posted on 09/19/2002 11:08:33 AM PDT by smoking camels
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Black conservative ping

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17 posted on 09/19/2002 11:10:54 AM PDT by mhking
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To: 1bigdictator
Suicide rates are very high in Norway and Sweden, two of the most prominent cradle to grave social democracies in the World
18 posted on 09/19/2002 11:13:07 AM PDT by fortcollins
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To: Teacher317
aka "democide"

Prof. R.J Rummel has extensive documentation on how deadly oppressive and left-leaning governments are. The website is a little shoddy, but the information needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

19 posted on 09/19/2002 11:17:19 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: 1bigdictator
"Any time an individual leaps so far ahead of that balance and throws the system, whatever it might be-political, economic, technological-out of balance, you've got a problem. It can lead to all kinds of bad outcomes which we have seen historically."
-Hillary Rodham Clinton

Suicide is sad, but I'm more scared of a system which mushes us all together into a goo of mediocrity, and doesn't let the great among us soar to the heights that inspire the rest of us to try to do the same.

20 posted on 09/19/2002 11:20:28 AM PDT by pupdog
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