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Last Bad Deal Gone Down: Oregon Legislature Votes to Raise Taxes
The Oregonian ^ | 09/18/02 | HARRY ESTEVE

Posted on 09/18/2002 10:46:56 AM PDT by Jack Black

Senators deal, put tax increase on ballot

HARRY ESTEVE

SALEM -- Spurred by a desire to quit and go home, Senate leaders brokered a deal Tuesday night that could bring the Oregon Legislature's record-setting fifth special session to an end.

The Senate voted 18-10 to send a proposed three-year income tax increase to a statewide vote in January. The House and the Senate were pushing late Tuesday toward adjournment, possibly by early today.

"I think we have good momentum to close out this chapter," said House Majority Leader Karen Minnis, R-Wood Village.

The linchpin of the deal was the temporary tax increase measure, slated for a special election Jan. 28. The measure, approved by the House on Monday, initially failed in the Senate but was revived Tuesday.

Because it proposes a tax increase, the measure required a three-fifths majority -- or 18 Senate votes -- to pass. A handful of senators said they had changed their "no" votes since Monday's failed attempt, including Sens. Rick Metsger, D-Welches, and John Minnis, R-Wood Village.

"We're at a place where it's time to bring it to closure," said Minnis, who had pushed to make more cuts in state spending instead of proposing a tax increase. "Everybody's puffing their chests and getting in each other's face. There's a point at which you say enough is enough."

For the 17th straight day, lawmakers railed at each other about the correct way to fix a $482 million shortfall in the state's $12 billion budget for 2001-03. By late Tuesday, it was clear that the only way out was to approve a package that includes some budget cuts, some debt and the proposed tax increase.

If approved by voters, the tax measure would raise $315 million in this budget year and an additional $412 million for the 2003-05 biennium. If not, state agencies will be asked to cut more than $300 million from their budgets.

"We've given Oregonians an opportunity to preserve the fabric of the state or to rip it apart," said Senate Minority Leader Kate Brown, D-Portland.

With the measure, the top personal income tax rate of 9 percent would increase to 9.5 percent, and the corporate tax rate of 6.6 percent would go to 6.93 percent. The increases would remain in effect for three years.

Accompanying the tax measure, however, is a bill that would impose across-the-board budget cuts that could lead to early school closures, prison closures and the layoffs of dozens of state police troopers if the measure fails.

Additionally, lawmakers worked on a bill that would borrow $150 million against Oregon's share of the national tobacco settlement and another that would make selective cuts of about $50 million in state programs. House members staged a failed attempt to increase the borrowing bill to $200 million to give back $50 million to schools that was cut when Gov. John Kitzhaber vetoed a school financing bill last month.

There was some concern that the size of the borrowing bill could become an issue that prevented adjournment. And there were concerns that the bill outlining more than $300 million in cuts would not get enough votes, which could upend the overall compromise.

Although it was still being worked late Tuesday, the proposed agreement lands between two ideologically distant factions. One group hoped to use the current budget crisis as a chance to whittle away at state-financed programs they think are wasteful or unnecessary.

The other claimed that budget cuts would deal a devastating blow to programs that aid the needy, sick and elderly and would cause widespread layoffs of teachers, state police troopers and prison guards.

The final package appears to be a middle ground steered by realists who argued that neither side had enough votes to make cuts or raise taxes on its own.

The Senate also passed a bill that would eliminate the taxes Oregonians pay on inheritances, essentially tying the state's tax rules to the federal code. The bill, which was passed by the House on Monday, is expected to cost the state about $5 million in this budget year.

Tuesday's breakthrough came at what appeared to be an apex of frayed tempers and frustration in the Senate. After derailing what might have been the go-home bill Monday night, the chamber reconvened Tuesday morning with a plan to vote on a proposed one-year income tax increase that would not go to voters.

But action on the bill quickly stalled, and members milled about the Senate floor in confusion. At one point, Senate President Gene Derfler, R-Salem, said he might gavel proceedings to a close and send everyone home for several days to "let things cool off."

"Everyone's mad at each other," he said.

Then came a rumor that the Senate might quit until January, leaving the budget hole to sit while senators awaited the election of a new governor and new legislators.

Those suggestions appeared to galvanize Republican and Democratic leaders into a round of hard-nosed bargaining, in which each side guaranteed a set number of votes to ensure passage of the tax measure. At one point, Senate Majority Leader Dave Nelson, R-Pendleton, was heard telling Senate Democrats that Republicans would not provide the one more vote needed to pass the cuts bill.

"You've got to give us one more," Nelson said before heading back behind closed doors to meet with his Republican colleagues.

Lawmakers said they are eager to leave, not only because they want to return to their jobs, families and, for some, their re-election campaigns, but also because the longer they stay, the more difficult it becomes to reach agreement. And the usual partisan squabbling has spread to members of the same party taking on one another.

"It's just a difference in philosophies that has fanned out of control," said Rep. Carl Wilson, R-Grants Pass, explaining why it has taken so long to find an exit strategy. "That comes from being in one place too long, looking at each other too long. People get their backs up."

Steven Carter of The Oregonian contributed to this report. Harry Esteve: 503-221-8226; harryesteve@news.oregonian.com


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 1atatime; cancerofgovt; liars; outofcontrol; politicians; rinos; soaktherich; socialism; spending; taxes
Well they did it. Now the citizens will have their say. I don't hold out a lot of hope for a no vote. Meanwhile at least we'll get a new Governor. So much needs to be done to fix this state, I don't know if it's possible.

I am outraged by the caving of the Rs. Some, many, held firm to the end. But enough caved to give them their tax raise. This is absurd. Remember, they already have $1 billion more than last year in the budget. But NOOO that's not enough, they need ANOTHER $450 Million to fund OPR, DEQ, Culture Commisssion, Womens Rights Charter, Homeless Outreach, and of course the Oregon Health Plan.

1 posted on 09/18/2002 10:46:56 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Voters are dumb enough that this will pass? Amazing.
2 posted on 09/18/2002 10:50:55 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Jack Black
The poll numbers from Teds camp show about 67% against an increase.

That is why they sent it to the voters, the dems did not want the backlash. So they chickened out.

The dems could not even decide what they wanted to vote on, this stupid 5th session took so long because the dems would beg to have a vote then would not vote or vote against their own proposal.

You guys in Oregon have to get Kevin in as governor, Ted is just an extension of Johns reign of terror.

Do you listen to Lars Larson, he is on in most of the state and is taking a lead on this tax issue. I only know the Portland station he is on http://www.kxl.com

Check out the Tea party.
3 posted on 09/18/2002 10:58:44 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: Jack Black
Its a really good idea to raise taxes in a recession. But then these guys are addicted to spending like a crack addict.
4 posted on 09/18/2002 11:12:10 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Jack Black
Well they did it. Now the citizens will have their say. I don't hold out a lot of hope for a no vote.

I remember the three year gas tax increase they were going to phase in. It was going to be two cents the first year, an additional two cents the second year, and one additional cent on the third and final year. It required a 2/3 vote. It turns out that they had to have a 2/3 yes vote to create the new fuel tax, but could unilaterally extend it forever once passed. I don’t know if they ever arrived at the final one-cent year. I know they extended the two-cent years a couple of times.

Oh well, just be glad you’re not in CA. Or, at least, that you are surrounded by fewer Californians than you would be if you were in CA. Ha.

5 posted on 09/18/2002 11:42:52 AM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Jack Black
Fine. Who cares anymore. The "Two-Party Cartel" does whatever they want - sometimes they just drag it out longer. I've basically feel that my voting days are over or if I vote it will be to increase taxes - that's right - increase. Might as well crumble this gov so the sooner a new type ( conservative) might evolve. We're in the last phase of our democracy anyway. The financial market has run out of gimicks & we are truly bankrupt.
6 posted on 09/18/2002 11:58:24 AM PDT by Digger
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To: Jack Black
I don't hold out a lot of hope for a no vote.

WHO needs hope... polling numbers indicate that oregonians will reject this out of hand by a margin of nearly 7-3.

That was reported on a news interview with the house leadership... KITZTAXER, will NOT get his income tax increase legacy...

And in november, it is quite likely a new governor will quickly come to terms with the new reality... the oregon development fund of 300 million and the oregon retirement program... billion dollar baby... are going to face the axe.

Prisoners will NOT be turned out to the streets, education will not go down the tubes... and taxes will be defeated by a referendum...

Good bye Dr. No.
7 posted on 09/18/2002 12:06:26 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
So, I wonder if this will help/hurt/make no difference in Smith's Senate race? And will Mannix now get a boost in the gov's race?
8 posted on 09/18/2002 12:37:01 PM PDT by Coop
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To: Coop
It will help both in my neck of the woods. The ultra conservative Eastern Oregon.

Smith has a really nice anti-enviro-whacko ad out pointing out how the Dumb's party policies on the logging gave us such a great fire season.

Should play very well in the area's that went up in smoke this year.

Oregon voter's are not going to raise their own taxes. The Dumbs sent it to the voters to avoid responsibility for their own policies. When the cuts come, this is cya material to take home to their welfare constituencies, so they can say, It's not our fault we were outvoted at the polls by those greedy cheap conservatives!



9 posted on 09/18/2002 12:50:10 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Jack Black
I just moved out of Oregon and into Texas. The state income tax I was paying in Oregon, now pays the mortgage payment on my house in Houston. (I'm a victom of the HP/Compaq 'merger'.)
10 posted on 09/18/2002 12:56:03 PM PDT by tje
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To: Coop
It cannot hurt, and is more likely to help mannix than not.

DEMS want to raise taxes, but don't have the courage to make that decision or put forth a public defense of it in Salem...

Pubbies don't want to raise taxes (at least the majority in the house), and have referred it to the voters... the common man, six-pack types... THAT will play well.

This is also an off year non presidential election and voter turnout will be low... most radical envirals won't likely vote... and this will very likely move Oregon to the right. Oregon won't go whole hog pubbie... as it is a VERY libertarian state. There are a lot of libertarian leaning republican types... perhaps not as many 'religious' right types here.

They are the "leave us the hell alone" republicans... and they actually appeal to a lot of moderate democrats as well... They seem to advocate lower taxes, shrinking the damned government till it screams... and locking up the ELF and earth first radicals who are now publicly advocating the SHOOTING of folks who build on their own land, if they cut down a tree, or dig a well or go fishing in their own section of the stream.

After all the fires here this year... MOST folks are tired of the enviral bullshirt... and the "oregon financial non-development fund."

The Northwest may actually move to the right... in financial and governmental matters.

I think mannix has a good chance.. koalinhaber has cancelled all his public appearances and is refusing to debate... he has come out and announced he WILL raise taxes... period. He must be feeling vulnerable and that his chances for election are better if he doesn't tell folks where he stands. He lost the rural vote when he said only three counties matter, washington, multinomah (portland)... and the one in salem...

I think with low turnout (mail in ballots here in OR) he just might lose his sorry arse. Especially with portland liberals threatening to NOT cooperate with the FBI War on Terror task force... a lot of demo-moderates will be looking at the liberal agenda and yawning as they throw their ballots, in the trash.

I don't fully trust mannix either. I hope he wont raise taxes...
11 posted on 09/18/2002 1:13:29 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
The only poll I've seen was a July Dem-sponsored poll showing Kulongoski over Mannix 42-31%. So it certainly seems to be a competitive race.
12 posted on 09/18/2002 1:18:32 PM PDT by Coop
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To: CyberCowboy777
You are so right (pard the pun)! That state has taxxed out any new business that would like to come there. They (state of Oregon) wonders why they have the highest unemployment in the nation? Must be that quality education that they teach in their public schools.....hug a tree, loggers are bad people, mining will ruin the earth, praise the U.N./sarcasm>.
13 posted on 09/18/2002 3:18:26 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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why they have the highest unemployment in the nation?

Second only to Washington State as of the August numbers released yesterday!

14 posted on 09/18/2002 3:47:42 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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