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There's Not Enough Prozac In The Universe!
September 14, 2002 | Michael Welch

Posted on 09/15/2002 12:24:08 AM PDT by ramdalesh

Before we become terminally war crazy over the middle east let us consider "The Fable of the Geys".

Zeta Reticuli was once a beautiful place, just like earth. It was called Lyria. The people there were called Apexian. They were a highly advanced, technological society just like earth. They had their wars and their famines, just like we have. In fact there isn't anything very special about them at all. They were just like us.

When the Grey (Apexian) culture developed nuclear technology, and atomic bombs they did what we did. They developed an underground infrastructure, including bomb shelters, and underground military complexes. They toiled over international conflict for many generations hoping to avoid the inevitable nuclear holocaust. All the while their scientific technology advanced and their population grew.

A cultural shift changed this society forever when in one generation scientists penetrated the Apexian genome, developed cloning techniques, global telecommunications network, nanorobotic and antimatter technology including anti-gravity, and anti-matter nuclear explosives unlike any previously discovered. This generation was at the height of their biological capability. They were at the "apex" of their natural evolution. So as to not interfere with the natural process of evolution they conducted most of their experiments in secret. Cloning technology was forbidded on the planet surface, but experiments were continued underground. Religious wars began in the midst of this scientific climax.

It during that generation; during the generation's apex; that the greatest and most terrible war began. It was the most destructive war the planet ever suffered. The people who lived on the planet's surface were forced to take refuge in bomb shelters and underground civilization became a replacement for the once beautiful above ground natural world. Eventually an anti-matter bomb was detonated on the planet's surface and the surviving civilization was forced underground, forever, indefinately.

The Apexians, just like humans, were creatures who throughout their history learned to adapt in order to survive. The shock of surviving a nuclear holocaust was so great that many decades passed before the underground culture began show any signs of productive life.

They were immobilized. Their history erased. Their identity, and their soul was sucked out of them. They were betrayed by their intelligent nature, and as a result were sentenced to an eternity in prison. They would never again farm on the surface of their world for the rest of time. Their progeny cursed forever to the dark underworld that was to be their prison until the developed interstellar space travel.

Though the surface of their world was gone, the underground very very advanced technoligically, so to speak. The collected technologies of the underground was all that was left for the survival of their species, and civilized life. Scientific advancement in genetics and cloning proved to be very useful for food production, but only for a short time. They were to be ruled by the superior clones who lived underground before the war if they were to survive,

There's not enough prozac in the universe to heal the wound of post war Apex. Cloning techniques advanced very quickly. Food scarcity, social disruption, crime etc.; non of this could be approached the way it was before. In the underground, genetic rescripting was law, and the survival of the species relied completely on advancing cloning techniques. As the population grew resources became scarce, so they operated on the sensory organs. Eyes, ears, tastebuds, height, weight, cranial size,food consumption, emotional processes, cognitive and communication processes were all rescripted. In only a few generations the entire apexian species genetically mutated from humanoid to grey.

This new being was the Gray. This cloned byproduct of nuclear holocaust was infinitely smarter, desinged to require minimal food, light, heat, and affection. They were designed to not feel anger, sorrow, loss, attatchment or love. Developing a culture and a history on post-war Zeta Reticulai meant surviving as a clone, and coping with the dark cold eternity of the underground post-war military infrastructure. They became a culture of cloned military scientists. They required no government so to speak because they could not continue to exist as a species with the ever present guilt of emotion, consuming essential life energies.

They endeavored to escape from their prison. They worked obsessively at those two problems. Survive, and escape. When they completed the technology for space travel they began to work on the new problem.

Why?

Why do we exist, why do we love, hate and question? What is to become of us? Is peace so unbearable that we will eventually condemn ourselves to a passionless eternity of it?

Why are they here???


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: nuked; spacepeople
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To: Rudder
Normally it is past my bedtime, but I am sort fo thriving on this paper.

I should be proud of my work. I didn't take the time to proofread and edit. I should have titled it "Fable of the Grays". Instead of the prozak gag. I would like to be a better writer. It will determine my GPA and potentially a scholarship.

uh who's mike? I took down all the other stuff that I have written and posted for FR a while back. I went through this phase where I posted sensitive material on FR. Some of it was good. But the whole ego thing really gets in the way. I have to concentrate on college courses. This FR hobby is addictive. I don't pretend that I am being influencial on any level. After a while this thread will fall to the threshing floor and be utterly forgotten. I could have said that ramdalesh wrote the article, but I wrote it. After a while I'll stop posting on FR for a long time. I used to do research for FR papers. I'll be working on a PhD in International Relations in not to long. In that time my energy will go there. FR really helped me to have self esteem and authority as a writer, and speaker, but I put a lot of really poor drivel up in here. I feel like its a safe place to be very foolish. I never ever found out who uses the forum. I suppose that maybe FR has its secret chambers where politicians and senators chat and google about ramdalesh, but it doesn't even matter...

I remember drinking, and freeping. That was a messy time. My final post should be on alcoholics anonymous, and not space alien, apocalypse scenarios, and bigheaded stuffy intelligent political analysis. If politicians are that concerned with my analysis of the global economics, or the prison industrial complex then I should be getting paid. The only thing I ever proved in FR is that I could suck up.

I wonder how many freepers are drowning their sorrows in booze and feeling the effects of a war on terrorism.

what a mess!

21 posted on 09/15/2002 2:41:20 AM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: ramdalesh
Michael Welch is headed for sleep.
22 posted on 09/15/2002 2:42:34 AM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: ramdalesh
...working on a PhD in International Relations

It's a lot of hard work but it will be well worth the effort--good luck with academe.

23 posted on 09/15/2002 3:05:48 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: ramdalesh
I actually enjoyed the story and do know what you are trying to say, Ram, despite the missing words and typos. I was just wondering when the cattle mutilations were going to be mentioned. =)
24 posted on 09/15/2002 3:44:33 AM PDT by KillTime
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To: ramdalesh
I probably knew who Marx was, long before you were born, since I suspect that you are rather young.

If, by " student ", you mean am I still in school , you're quite mistaken. I believe that one should never stop learning, so yes, in that respect, I am a " student" ... as everyone should be. :-)

" Aristocrat " ? There aren't any, in American, dear, and I'm not a Eurpoean.

There isn't any similarities between " students " and " aristocrats" ; unless an aristocrat is in school; however, with your implied refferrence to Marx, perhaps you should ponder you obvious class warfare problem. LOL

25 posted on 09/15/2002 7:42:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I was taught that America has been governed by a Republican Aristocracy since the very begining. That is my understanding of Hamiltonian Economic Theory. Its the same as Reaganomics.

The class warfare: I've been looking at a book called "idealogy of the natural sciences", and also Frijtov Capra's book "turning point". It seems that the modern class war is a struggle between the scientific idealogies that call for so much technology and exploited laborers, and the idealogies of the east which were specifically designed to focus on community, and family. Both Mohamed and Confucius discouraged mathematical studies, although physics, mathematics, and chemistry have their origin in the orient. I believe that these leaders were inspired in some way anticipated the scientific accomplishments of the west and made precautions against scientific practice getting out of control. We who rely more on technology than on family would be doomed to this type of Apexian scenario if science were practiced with avarice in every culture.

It seems appropriate that in the post cold war era we should have a respectable war against the Arab World. In my view the idealogical conflict we are in with the muslim faith is tantamount to the survival of the human race. It is not that Moslems are jealous of the west for hoarding technology and medicine, but rather Mohamed saw the terrible implications of mathematics. These Arab people: Pythagorus, Osama Bin Al Kudusoami, Omar Khyaam, who were the founders of mathematics and developed Algebra had come before Mohamed and had exposed the foundation of science that was to become the nuclear bomb, and the internet, and cloning. These things were pushed out of Persia/Arabia because they threatened the Islamic faith, during the time of its inception which had as its focus family and community. The religion is in fact designed to not allow scientific progress. You might say that it is a bad thing, but it is a good thing that there are 2 billion muslims, because otherwise the brutality of the sciences would have overwhelmed the whole world. As confucius said, "If people stop farming then they will walk away from their families because they are no longer intimate with the earth which is thier home." Without that type of discipline, to discourage mathematics, the farming cultures of the world would have developed labor saving technology. In that case they would be able to abandon the rituals and customs in their culture that were designed to protect family and community. These very same motives that they hold to so passionately that they commit suicide to protect.

26 posted on 09/17/2002 11:07:38 PM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: KillTime
I read an article on Scientific American, www.scia.com. About crop circles. They pointed out that most of the voices speaking about crop circles are not scientists, and showed how it can be proven that 99% of crop circles were done by humans. I suspect that the same is true for cattle mutilations. There are many rituals designed to invoke a belief in extra-terrestrials. It may be the case that the ancient Aztec, and Summerian priests learned these rituals from the Extra-terrestrial gods of prehistory, but when the space people had finished that work and went home the rituals were handed down through priestcraft and performed by humans!
27 posted on 09/17/2002 11:20:28 PM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: ramdalesh
Are you still in school ? Your reply isn't a response, but a psuedo- intellictual mish-mosh of a badly done term paper. Don't use this method to attempt to refute here, dear; you don't know enough , it is poorly done, and makes you look bad. :-)

There weren't ant " REPUBLICANS ", in the 18th century. Not all Republicans come from the upper middle and upper class. You were not taught well at all, and your first paragraph is fallacious and silly.

You don't only do NOT understand what " calss warfare " means, you don't understand what you're droning on about either. Utter PC garbage, some peculiar deconstructionistic twaddle, which you've managed to cobble together , write down badly, and confused / twisted into some sort of sociological nonses. BTW, Pythagorous wasn't an Arab. Mohammad didn't know not give a flaming tent about math.

Your dearth of knowledge is shocking, your misrepresentations appauling, your lack of ability, at refutation is ghastly, and you haven't done anything , but prove that you don't know very much and what you do think that you know, is erronious on many levels.

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh !

28 posted on 09/17/2002 11:30:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ramdalesh
Oh, and there isn't enough Prozac, in the universe, to take, so that what you wrote would make any sense. :-)
29 posted on 09/17/2002 11:35:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ramdalesh
We have anti-matter bombs now?
Kewl!
30 posted on 09/17/2002 11:38:46 PM PDT by tet68
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31 posted on 09/17/2002 11:40:21 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: ramdalesh
Mohamed saw the terrible implications of mathematics

The null set is contained in all sets. How lonelifying and terrorful....

32 posted on 09/17/2002 11:46:05 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Xenalyte
You have to see this! It's approved!


33 posted on 09/18/2002 12:02:54 AM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: ramdalesh
"Why do we exist"

For the taste of a couple nicely grilled bacon cheeseburger with tomatoe and onion ...or.............

34 posted on 09/18/2002 12:12:31 AM PDT by ChasingFletch
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To: nopardons
The term republic is a reference not to the republican party, but "republic" as Plato would define it. I am well aware that they were whigs and whatnot. The stuff of political philosophy is not channel 9 news. I recomend that you read Plato's Republic, The Federalist Papers, and The Communist Manifesto.

Proletariat vs. the Bourgousie. Capitalism collapse under the turbulence of its own momentum. C'mon, man get with the times, when we studied that book of fanciful protest, Bill Clinton was signing the Free Trade Agreement with China! You cannot comprehend Marx unless on a global level. Otherwise your protest against the free market is no more than Don Juan's search for his lost Daddy. Class war.

"Encourage the comfort loving boy to die!"

35 posted on 09/18/2002 9:38:41 AM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: ramdalesh
Sweety, I read ALL of those books and more, before your parents learned how to read.

Since YOU , quite obviously, just found out about these books and philosophies, I suggest that you take a course in reading comprehension, since it is patently obvious. that all you can do, is regurgitate what some cretinous prof spoon fed to you.

Go back and read your postsings ! you wrote REPUBLICAN ; not " republic. That sentence would make even less sense, had you written " republic ",instead. You didn't mean " republic " in any way, shape, manner or form ... Platonic or otherwise. Stop backpeddling and digging yourself an even bigger hole.

I don't watch channel 9 news ? BTW, channel 9 where ? You haven't a clue where I am, you silly child. Some places don't even have a channel 9 ! FYI ... I long ago stopped watching noncable news. I guess that YOU do, though. LOL

You are attempting to sound well read and erudite. You come off sounding like some pompous 14 year old. Cut the crap, the psuedo-intellectual stance ( and your lack of comprehension is blinding , BTE ! ) , try to think ( can you, dear ? ) on your own , and put your own thoughts down... clearly, cogently, and without such hubris. Your monumental ego, is only outsized by your dearth of actual knowledge.

36 posted on 09/18/2002 8:59:28 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
non-virtuous, opinionated, young woman!

in my pompous, and uneducated, 14 yr old opinion, [THOU]

37 posted on 09/20/2002 1:36:16 PM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: ramdalesh
I wish medved were still with us. He'd have a blast with this...
38 posted on 09/20/2002 1:47:17 PM PDT by Junior
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To: ramdalesh
I think the drugs are taking effect, Doctor...
39 posted on 09/20/2002 1:50:29 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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To: realpatriot71
You have to see this! It's approved!

That'll come in handly at thi$ little clambake.

40 posted on 09/20/2002 1:55:37 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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