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Does Patriotism Mean Love of Big Govt?
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com ^ | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 09/14/2002 3:00:00 PM PDT by LibertyBelt

Since When Does Patriotism Mean Love of Big Government? By Chuck Baldwin September 2002

Patriotism seems to have taken on a strange new definition. Love for country has been replaced with love for big government. At one time, American patriotism meant love for liberty, love for family, love for faith, and love for the principles articulated in America's founding documents. No more. Today, only people who demand increased government protection, increased government handouts, and increased government bureaucracies are considered patriotic.

Today's Americans look to the federal government to solve virtually every problem, to protect them from virtually any adversary, and to even subsidize their own personal welfare. In exchange for this new insatiable appetite for serfdom, such people are more than willing to surrender their individual freedoms and personal responsibilities.

There doesn't seem to be Republican alive who remembers Ronald Reagan's famous quote, "Government is not the solution to the problem; government is the problem!" Instead, today's Republicans appear just as anxious to invoke the heavy hand of government as Democrats - maybe more so.

Virtually no one in Washington is calling for less government today. The only undecided question being debated now is how much to increase the size and scope of the federal government. The founders' concept of limited government has been repudiated by the vast majority of this me-first generation.

Even so-called conservative leaders (including Christian conservatives) on radio and television will fight anyone who dares suggest that the federal government has become a behemoth with virtually no resemblance to the country that was created back in 1776.

No one in Washington wants to dismantle any federal program or department. Even the once-despised National Endowment for the Arts gets a huge spending boost from these "conservative" Republicans. Ditto for federal spending for education, energy, agriculture, commerce, etc., and ad infinitum. And if you think all that's bad, wait until this new Homeland Security Department grows up. There won't be a shred of freedom left! Taxpayers have allowed themselves to be forced into financing a federal leviathan that is in the process of swallowing every liberty and personal responsibility in sight; and few people seem to mind.

Beyond that, if anyone dares suggest that the federal government is too monstrous, too oppressive, and too invasive, they are called unpatriotic. Worse still is the fact that many such people are paid personal visits from a variety of government goon squads in order to intimidate or silence them. (Yes, this practice continues under the Bush administration.)

This is not the America that tens of thousands of brave men fought and died for. This is not the country I grew up in. America has become an alien nation. It is a country completely foreign to the one bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers.

I am very confident that if George Washington, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, James Otis, Paul Revere, Sam Adams, and the rest of those great patriots of yesteryear were alive today, they would be treated by our own government the same way they were treated by old King George of England: as traitors and criminals.

Yet, the real traitors and criminals are the ones in Washington and other places who have worked (and are working) feverishly to dismantle and destroy the fundamental principles contained in our U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence.

If despising an overbearing, overreaching, Orwellian-style federal government complete with its "swarms of officers" intent on harassing and stealing my liberties makes me unpatriotic, then I will gladly wear the moniker.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; copernicus; patriotism
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To: gcruse
Shame on you. :)
21 posted on 09/14/2002 4:29:46 PM PDT by niki
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To: niki
Incoming!, I'm sure. ;0)
22 posted on 09/14/2002 4:31:03 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Loving your country while hating the government is perfectly rational.

Yeah, I always felt a good American should regard politions as a group of thirteen year olds at a sleep over. Don't turn your back on them for a minute or the whole neighborhood is tp'd, or worse.

23 posted on 09/14/2002 5:23:48 PM PDT by gracie1
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To: KDD
Giving money and power to polititions is like giving car keys and whiskey to teenage boys
-P. J. O'Rourke
24 posted on 09/14/2002 5:26:23 PM PDT by gracie1
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To: LibertyBelt
Big, small, or any size — we have to control as much of it as possible or the Socialists/Liberals/Democrats will. Same thing with public schools and everything else.
25 posted on 09/14/2002 5:29:15 PM PDT by Consort
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To: LibertyBelt
Of course it does. Just take a poll here.
26 posted on 09/14/2002 6:51:07 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: LibertyBelt

27 posted on 09/14/2002 6:56:19 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: LibertyBelt
You might find this relevant and interesting:

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size.

I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom.

My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them.

It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden.

I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible.

And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can."

- Former Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.), "The Conscience of a Conservative"

28 posted on 09/14/2002 7:01:21 PM PDT by Copernicus
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To: mountaineer
Very well put!
29 posted on 09/14/2002 8:29:39 PM PDT by Valin
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To: LibertyBelt
Bttt
30 posted on 01/07/2003 2:57:17 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Askel5
Washington's $782 Billion Spending Spree
31 posted on 01/28/2003 8:03:53 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: VaBthang4
Intersting sign. Did you mean to demonstrate your support for Big Government and socialism with it?

Baldwin is Pro-Life, anti-Big Government, Pro 2A, and prefers to voice principle over party. His Southern Baptist roots gives him a disdain for Libertarians.

He hosts interesting people in his church: Jesse Lee Peterson, Howard Phillips, and Buchanan's VP candidate (can't recall her name).

Your ignorance is obvious to anyone who can read what he writes without having a knee jerk reaction, let alone to anyone who knows Baldwin even a little.

If you are an idication of what a Conservative is today (try reading the post directly below yours with quotes from Goldwater) then that movement is dead.

32 posted on 01/28/2003 8:32:41 AM PST by Eagle Eye (The STATE is my shepherd, I shall not want,; it maketh me wear seatbelts, helmets and eyeprotection;)
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To: Eagle Eye
If you are an idication of what a Conservative is today (try reading the post directly below yours with quotes from Goldwater) then that movement is dead.

There are many other examples of self-proclaimed "conservatives" on this forum that buttress your conclusion.

33 posted on 01/28/2003 8:45:14 AM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi
A conservative seems more and more like a liberal with differing opinions. Both are wanting to mandate and deny individual behavior.

I cannot believe that people actually believe that the role of government is to rule people's lives and that the Founders intended it that way. But, that seems to be prevalent among so-called conservatives.

Let's also not forget the the shrillness they demostrate when they see themselves in the mirror that people like Chuck Baldwin holds up to them.

34 posted on 01/28/2003 9:25:11 AM PST by Eagle Eye (The STATE is my shepherd, I shall not want,; it maketh me wear seatbelts, helmets and eyeprotection;)
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