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[Buffalo] FIVE AREA MEN HELD AS AL-QUIDA SUSPECTS
The Buffalo News ^ | Sept. 14 | SUSAN SCHULMAN

Posted on 09/14/2002 11:52:02 AM PDT by twas

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To: GWELO
What did we (in America) learn from September 11, 2001 and the deaths of 3,000 of our fellow citizens. I am tempted to admit: Absolutely nothing.

Among the many unlearned lessons of Day-Which-Will-Live-In-Infamy-II-- the necessity to control our borders, the need for a patriotic renewal and the importance of combating multiculturalism -- the most significant is the nature of Islam. You will note that I do not say militant Islam, or radical Islam, or Islamic extremism or other such weasel words – but Islam, period.

Every one of the hijackers who flew airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon were professing and practicing Moslems, as is Osama bin Laden. The Al Qaeda terrorist network, is based in Moslem countries and supported financially by the so called pious Moslem leadership of Saudi Arabia.

The overwhelming majority of Moslem religious authorities who have spoken out on the subject, including those at the main mosque in Mecca and Egypt’s prestigious Al Azar University, either endorse or rationalize acts of terrorism. On a day when Americans were incinerated or buried under tons of rubble, Muslims from Nigeria to Indonesia, celebrated in the streets.

Sept. 11 was one chapter in a 1400-year jihad. Every day, the World Trade Center massacre is reenacted on a smaller scale somewhere in the world. Jewish women and children are burned alive in a bus in Israel. A missionary is beheaded in the Philippines, gunmen shoot up a church in Pakistan (deliberately firing into the prostrate bodies of women trying to shield their children). Ancient monasteries and convents are destroyed in Kosovo. Women are sentenced to death for adultery in Nigeria, Hindus are murdered in the Kashmir. In Denmark, the Muslim community there has put a $30,000 bounty on the heads of Jews and those who support Israel. Nuns are beheaded in Baghdad, Christians in Sudan are forced into slavery, and in Britain, Islam openly states it is going to take over not only the UK, but the whole world -- and the beat goes on.
Genocide in the Sudan, ethnic cleansing in the Balkans, religious persecution in Saudi Arabia, calls for another holocaust in mosques from Mecca to Gaza, the imposition of Islamic law in Nigeria, forced conversions in Indonesia, synagogues burned in France, Jews attacked across Europe – these are everyday events, as Third World and much of the First slowly turns Islamic green.

Sadly our leaders, from President Bush on down, insist on peddling the absurdity that Islam is a religion of peace – a creed of kindness and benevolence tragically and inexplicably corrupted by fanatics.

Why is the leadership of the West reluctant to confront manifest reality? The reason lies partly with our absurd foreign policy. We have declared certain Moslem nations to be our loyal allies – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan. We would not want to offend these dear friends by saying something unflattering about their bloody, butcherly, dark ages faith.

Americans are naturally benevolent. Most of us are taught from childhood that is religion is good (and it does not matter which religion). As long as little Johnny believes in God and goodness, it’s inconsequential whether he lights candles, wears a skull cap to services or prays in the direction of Mecca.

This works with every religion except Islam.
Consider the following: Of the three major western religions: one was started by a lawgiver who helped to free slaves; one by a man of peace; the last one by a man who loved war and having sex with children. Mohammed not only led men into battle, he enjoyed marrying girls as young as six years old (it is in the Koran). The essence of his message is sick and disgusting. A holy war where you slaughter your enemies, while at the same time encouraging followers to have sex with the children they capture (as he did) for the glory of Allah. He even advised his followers to negotiate false peace treaties in order to lull their enemies.

For almost 1,400 years, that has been the reality of Islam. Within a century after the death of Mohammed, Islam spread throughout the Middle East and across North Africa. It overran the Iberian peninsula and was finally stopped in southern France. It spread eastward as far as the southern Philippines. It was not propagated by fresh-faced young men knocking on doors and announcing: “Hello. I’m from your local mosque. Have you considered the Koran?” It was and is spread by force – conversion by the sword or death. This is still in practice today.

Some will respond that all religions go through periods of violence, usually in their infancy. Christianity had its crusades and Inquisition, its forced conversions and expulsions. The evil committed in the name of Christ happened centuries ago. The evil committed in the name of the Prophet is going on now, as you read these words. Of 22 conflicts in the Third World, 20 involve Moslems versus someone else. Coincidence? In his brilliant book, “Clash of Cultures and the Remaking of World Order,” Samuel Huntington speaks of Islam’s “bloody borders.”

There is no Methodist Jihad, no Hasidic holy warriors, no Southern Baptist suicide bombers, no Mormon elders preaching the annihilation of members of other faiths.
Islam is a warrior religion – the perfect vessel for fanatics, the violence-prone, the envious and haters of all stripes. This is one reason why Islam is making so many converts among the peaceable denizens of our prison system.

Still, much of the West is addicted to a fairy-tale version of Islam. Christian and Jewish clergy fall all over themselves to have interfaith services with imams. Representatives of Moslem groups are invited to the White House. The president signs a Ramadan declaration. In California, public schools ask children to role-play at being Moslems. Our universities take carefully selected verses from the Koran and present them as the essence of the faith. All that’s needed is a Moslem character on “Sesame Street.” Look – it’s the Jihad Monster!
This perspective engenders a fatally false sense of security.

Imagine, in 1940, Winston Churchill taking to the airwaves to announce “Nazism is an ideology of peace which, regrettably, has been perverted by a few fanatics like Hitler and Goebbels. But most storm troopers and SS men are fine follows – your friends and neighbors.”
For the first thousand years of its history – from the death of Mohammad to the 17th. century decline of the Ottoman empire, Islam was an expansionist force. For the next 300 years, as the West rose to preeminence, Islam receded. For the past four decades – fueled by Arab oil wealth, a surplus population in the Middle East, the waning of the West and the rise of more virulent strains of the faith (Shiism, Wahhabism, Sunni fundamentalism) – Islam is expanding once more.

Due to Moslem immigration and aggressive proselytizing, Islam is being exported to the West. Moslem populations are burgeoning throughout Western Europe. (In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.) In Judeo-Christian America, Islam is the fastest growing religion. It is also spreading down the coast of West Africa, through the Balkans (after Serbia, Macedonia is the next target) and up from Mindanao in the Philippines.

Wherever it comes, Islam brings its delightful customs – child marriages, female circumcisions, rabid hatred toward Christians and anti-Semitism, terrorism and support for terrorism and a virulent intolerance of other faiths.
Am I suggesting we declare war on over 1 billion million Moslems? The question is moot – Islam has declared war on the rest of the human race. When one side knows it’s at war and the other thinks peace and brotherhood prevail, guess who wins?

Ultimately, it is not about Jews in Israel, or Orthodox Serbs in Kosovo, or Hindus in Kashmir, or Maronite Catholics in Lebanon, or Christians in Sudan and Nigeria, but all of us. As Ben Franklin would have it – Either we will hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately.
21 posted on 09/14/2002 12:25:03 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: BJungNan
The local mosque assisted in the investigation..I THINK for the most part theses folks think of themselves as Americans. I cared for their children in the hospital, shop at the stores with them..I am no liberal..I am VERY pro Israel..but lets not paint them all with the same brush huh?..Pray for them..

I do not like being in a position to defend a religion I think is satanic..I do not defend Islam..but I do not want decent citizens painted with a broad brush..

All Itallians are not mafia..all Irish are not drunks and all Muslims are not terriorists

22 posted on 09/14/2002 12:25:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: twas
Oh, the FBI is picking on us. Give me a break, idiot.
You b*st*rds helped bin-laden knock down our buildings,
and you want us to stop picking on you. Hey Albaneh, your
brother shafal, the terrorist scum, was fingered by
Omar al-Farouq, a senior al-qaeda terrorist that since
his capture, has been singing like a canary. Al-Farouk
has flipped as is giving us names and addresses. I just
wish we would do to your family what the Israelis correctly
do to the families of terrorist scum, they demolish their
homes and banish them to beautiful, downtown, Gaza.
23 posted on 09/14/2002 12:31:24 PM PDT by AdvisorB
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To: RnMomof7
already here...this is my hometown, my post...
24 posted on 09/14/2002 12:32:31 PM PDT by smokegenerator
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To: GaryMontana
Excellent Post Gary.
25 posted on 09/14/2002 12:41:25 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: twas
Lackawannastan ?
26 posted on 09/14/2002 12:47:17 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: RnMomof7
Pray for them? Yes, that's nice and pray for conversion. I have been doing this for many years in my dealings with them here in the Buffalo area. However, as much as you think you are you are probably not as well acquainted with their "umma". Do not equate Italian American Mafia or the Amish eg with the Muslims. There is no comparison. The Muslim ideology is once again on a jihad all over the world. And its adherents are working for the day that the evil America and Israel collapses, literally. And guess what? I have heard all this in person in Buffalo!
27 posted on 09/14/2002 12:49:22 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: GaryMontana
Excellent post!
28 posted on 09/14/2002 12:50:31 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: eleni121
The mosque turned theses guys in el...
29 posted on 09/14/2002 12:50:49 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
That has been reported by Muslims but not confirmed by the authorities. The local authorities have received hundreds of calls aimed at the Lackawanna Muslim community over the years especially since last 9/11.

I cannot go into detail but these traitors were not reported to the Feds by their own. And they are the only ones involved in Al Quaeda activity...

30 posted on 09/14/2002 12:58:57 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: twas
The writer of this article seems to implicitly guaranteeing the peacefullness and innocence of the ENTIRE Yemeni population in Lackawanna.
31 posted on 09/14/2002 1:01:33 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: RnMomof7
"I do not defend Islam..but I do not want decent citizens painted with a broad brush..

"All Itallians are not mafia..all Irish are not drunks and all Muslims are not terriorists"

Well said.

32 posted on 09/14/2002 1:07:45 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: RnMomof7
...I was never "afraid " of them ...I will now be more watchful

I would also suggest having a camera with you at all times. We wouldn't want you to be called a "liar" when you see something unusual. And keep the negatives.

33 posted on 09/14/2002 1:10:54 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: twas
"FBI", "terrorizing us", "conspiracy"....it's like listening to a broken RECORD.
34 posted on 09/14/2002 1:11:24 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: ChadGore
good one..yemiwanna... Buffalo has the 3d highest Arab population within the US, after Detroit and NYC. The University @ Buffalo draws the "militan-age" bracket.
35 posted on 09/14/2002 1:16:24 PM PDT by smokegenerator
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To: twas
Darn...just occurred to me...I HOPE this isn't another setup by our practical joking Muslim "friends". (Like the Alligator Alley Stooges and their "joke" on Eunice Stone.)
36 posted on 09/14/2002 1:16:30 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: RnMomof7
Well, sure, but I meant your safety!!
37 posted on 09/14/2002 1:21:23 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: twas
"My brother is the most peaceful person in the world," he said. "He's a telemarketer and goes to ECC South. We knew the FBI was around. They've been watching our house. They've been terrorizing us for the last four months.

Authorities said that the five men were graduates of al-Qaida camps in Afghanistan

My brother is a hard-working, law-abiding citizen."

The suspects are believed to have had contact with those involved in the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.

Yup. Just your typical peaceful, truthful mooslems being persecuted and scapegoated.
38 posted on 09/14/2002 1:24:01 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: smokegenerator
The University @ Buffalo draws the "militan-age" bracket.

LOL - my wife and I were betting on where they'd be students. I said UB, she guessed Buff State - apparently at least one of them is going to ECC, according to this. So I guess ECC is the hotbed of militant Islam around here - who knew? ;)

39 posted on 09/14/2002 1:24:43 PM PDT by general_re
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To: nicmarlo
I would also suggest having a camera with you at all times. We wouldn't want you to be called a "liar" when you see something unusual. And keep the negatives.



That is true..I feel bad for that woman...they will use that incident to stop future reports ...it is playing the race card BIG time
40 posted on 09/14/2002 1:30:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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