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Bush disappoints Americans - terrorism expert (VOMIT ALERT)
Manawatu Evening Standard ^ | 10th September (US) 11th September (NZ) 2002 | unknown

Posted on 09/10/2002 7:35:16 PM PDT by New Zealander

Bush disappoints Americans - terrorism expert 11 September 2002

United States President George Bush is terrifying the American people, and using the threat of terrorism to justify what comes next, says terrorism expert Jeff Sluka.

"All the people I have spoken to in the US are at least as disappointed in George Bush as they are in Osama bin Laden."

The year since the terrorist strikes of September 11 has been a victory for the terrorists "beyond their wildest dreams", the Massey University lecturer said yesterday.

It had also seen the introduction of "massive repressive legislation" and the triumph of hysteria and propaganda over commonsense.

The year was also marked by an increase in hate crimes against Muslims, with 350 reported to the FBI and about 1200 Muslims had been arrested on "petty" immigration charges and held without trial.

Generally, the terrorist strikes on America had been the catalyst for "a tremendous attack on civil liberties and human rights" in the US with the advent of the Patriot Act, which had disabled the Constitution, Dr Sluka said.

These changes had spread outside the US, and even to New Zealand where under Government definitions "every form of protest and direct action" could be construed as terrorist acts, he said.

"All of the protections of due process are disappearing."

But there had been some good developments in the past year, Dr Sluka said.

The American public were now "frightened and terrorised", not just by terrorists, but by President George Bush.

As a result, a groudswell of opinion was rising against the President, and his bellicose statements about attacking Iraq.

The media's "symbiotic relationship" with the Government meant the public had been hearing "99.9 percent of George Bush's view of the world".

"They take the word of George Bush and they simply report it as fact. The one thing we learnt from the (Vietnam War) is that you can't believe any of these people."

President Bush's talk about the War Against Terror meant he was using the media to "manufacture consent" for a war against Iraq.

Dr Sluka also dismissed catch-phrases such as The day the world changed forever as "lots of hype and rubbish".

"This whole thing is a lie. Only the politically ignorant believe this is anything more than US imperialism."

Creating a Government-led war on terror was unnecessary, as the pursuit of the terrorists of September 12 was the responsibility of existing police and court systems, he said.

New Zealand had nothing to fear from terrorism and the money the September 11 attacks was believed to have cost New Zealand was "utterly wasted", he said.

The over reaction of many governments was evidence of a victory for the terrorists, as many people had gone into "paroxsyms of panic" since the attacks, Dr Sluka said.

"That's what they wanted us to do. The strategy of terrorism is to provoke you into an over reaction."

Dr Sluka believed the next 12 months could be as interesting as the previous year, regardless of what happens with Iraq.

If the US did attack Iraq, there would be "nothing but trouble". If Iraq was spared, there would likely be increasing debate wthin the US about the erosion of civil liberties, he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: berkley; bush; foreignpolicy; iraq; terroisim; waronterror
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To: dighton
Not worth fretting about

,,, so, when do you want him back?

21 posted on 09/10/2002 8:41:25 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
,,, so, when do you want him back?

Seeing as how we're first-rate fascists, torturers, and whatnot, SEND HIM OVER.

22 posted on 09/10/2002 8:45:25 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Seeing as how we're first-rate fascists, torturers, and whatnot, SEND HIM OVER

Sweet as mate - I'll see if I can russle up a big enough cannon so we can get him back to you extra fast!

23 posted on 09/10/2002 8:51:54 PM PDT by New Zealander
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To: New Zealander; shaggy eel
He'll have a deluxe suite with all accommodations, including . . . never mind, I wouldn't spoil his surprise.

;-)

24 posted on 09/10/2002 8:57:57 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton; New Zealander
,,, in all seriousness, this type in our universities is social cancer.
25 posted on 09/10/2002 9:20:34 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: dighton
Disgusting, isn't it?
26 posted on 09/10/2002 9:30:44 PM PDT by eclectic
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To: New Zealander
Sluka is Arabic for Ritter.
28 posted on 09/10/2002 9:32:50 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: dighton; shaggy eel; New Zealander
Not worth fretting about, just some low-rent version of Chomsky, Vidal, Donald Duck, or whomever.

Bingo. Let's play "Spot the Completely Unoriginal Idea". Which phrase in the following quotation is lifted wholesale from the title of a Noam Chomsky book?

President Bush's talk about the War Against Terror meant he was using the media to "manufacture consent" for a war against Iraq.

Whoops - did I accidentally give it away? ;)

The American public were now "frightened and terrorised", not just by terrorists, but by President George Bush.

This is true. I'm scared of GWB. Really. I think he's been calling my house and hanging up when I answer. Half my socks have suddenly gone missing. Last night, I'm sure I saw him sneaking around the back yard. And this morning there was a note on my door that said "QUIT CRAWFISHIN - I'M GOING NUCULAR ON YOU TONITE".

The man's out of control, terrorizing me and my family. It's only a matter of time before he comes in here and kills us all. I can't live like this.

I'm scared.

Someone hold me....

29 posted on 09/10/2002 9:41:57 PM PDT by general_re
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To: pubmom
The article is silly beyond belief. Here is a president with historically high approval ratings. But he cannot find a single American who is not as "disappointed" in our President as in OBL.

You're right. His circle of friends is too small, and too narrow minded.

30 posted on 09/11/2002 12:27:25 PM PDT by ffrancone
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To: general_re
This is one of the funniest posts I have seen on FR for a long time.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

31 posted on 09/11/2002 12:30:08 PM PDT by ffrancone
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Only a leftist could have come up with such a morally relativistic sentence. The none too subtle implication is that President Bush is just as evil as Osama Bin Laden and should be considered a terrorist as well. This is exactly the kind of anti-America hate we find oozing from the Jeff Slukas and their ilk in the world. Its interesting he's more disappointed in President Bush than in Bin Laden. Well he's certainly living on another planet for sure for I don't see my country and its people reflected in his moronic bilge.
32 posted on 09/11/2002 12:32:30 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: New Zealander
LOL--so the "expert" is actually a Komrade from Berkeley? Why I'm shocked, I tell you!!!

(Who gives a d*mn what this LSD-brain-damaged ivory tower CLYMER thinks, anyway....)

33 posted on 09/11/2002 12:34:00 PM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: general_re
Now THAT was funny!!! (I wondered who was stealing my socks too.)
34 posted on 09/11/2002 12:35:36 PM PDT by facedown
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To: goldstategop
I for one was never 'disappointed' with bin Laden. Mad? Yes. Ready to retaliate? Yes. But not disappointed. What a dope.
35 posted on 09/11/2002 1:03:26 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: shaggy eel; New Zealander
<< ,,, I know you'll have more than one sentence for this one Brian. >>

Well, I dunno.

I kinda like "cancel this bastard's work permit, pretty much -- but that'd mean Y'All'd send him back to California.

And, from the guvvnah on up, California is already top bloody heavy with intellectually and morally ugly and bankrupt bastards like this obscene dickhead!

So stick a condom on his scone, why doncha, and stick it back up his arse!

[Talk about us all getting the faces we deserve, eh? Whew]

FReegards -- B A
36 posted on 09/13/2002 6:14:32 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: New Zealander
"All the people I have spoken to in the US are at least as disappointed in George Bush as they are in Osama bin Laden."

Now that is one big fat lie! How dare this idiot say such a thing!

37 posted on 09/13/2002 6:18:02 PM PDT by ladyinred
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