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Understanding Arabic Culture
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Posted on 09/10/2002 8:52:08 AM PDT by mikenola

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To: mikenola
REMEMBER WHO DANCED ON 9-11

Just about my favorite poster caption following 9-11.
It was from a rally showing support for Israel; I saw the photo of the poster
here at freerepublic.com.

Just about as good as "Remember The Alamo" or "Remember Pearl Harbor".
21 posted on 09/10/2002 10:15:51 AM PDT by VOA
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To: mikenola
Arabic Self Perceptions
  They are generous, humanitarian, polite and loyal.
  They have a rich cultural heritage.
  They have a history of literature, medicine, art, mathematics and sciences.
  They are a cultural group and members of the "Arab Nation".

Clinton Self Perceptions
  I am honest, decent, respectable, and loyal.
  I did an excellent job in each of my public offices.
  My administration created peace and prosperity.
  I am guided by ethical principles.

22 posted on 09/10/2002 10:24:17 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: mikenola
"Children are the "jewels" of the family."

Is that why they turn them into homicide bombers or pass out sweets to the neighbors when they've killed one of their daughters for having sex?

"It is important to behave at all times in a way which will create a good impression."

On whom?

"Everyone should believe in God and have a religious affiliation."

Which really means, everyone should be our brand of Islamic, and death to all who refuse to submit.

I could go on, but we all know what tripe this is.

23 posted on 09/10/2002 10:25:36 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Ed B.
Oh, man :::Gag:::: The more I learn about how sick these creeps are, the more anxious I am to proceed with the war again Iraq (then Iran, then. . .)
24 posted on 09/10/2002 10:30:24 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: mikenola
4 FILES
25 posted on 09/10/2002 10:39:30 AM PDT by Quix
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To: mikenola
The author forgot the prime directive.

The only Arab value or ethic which applies to an Arab dealing with an infidel is triumph ... by any means necessary. Honor equals subjugation of the infidel by any means.
26 posted on 09/10/2002 10:40:10 AM PDT by mercy
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To: mikenola
Gee and all this time I thought it was camels, tents, sand, and mutilating women.
27 posted on 09/10/2002 10:44:34 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It is virtuous to behead a child you wrongly believe has been raped.

the story this links to happened in Iran. Iranians are not Arabs.

It is permissible to gang rape a sister of a man who has committed adultery, rape, or sex outside of marriage.

I believe this happened in Pakistan. Pakistanis are not Arabs.

Arabic Self Perceptions

- Arabs are misunderstood and wrongly characterized by most Westerners.


I wonder why they would think that?
28 posted on 09/10/2002 10:47:51 AM PDT by dan909
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To: mikenola
Bump


I've been trying to say this since 9-11. I guess I will be labeled as a bigoted American. By: An American Airlines Pilot - Captain ???? ?????????


September 11 Grievances

"You worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country. But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me. I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks.

On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country. They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers. So I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists.

But I need your help.

As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist. How do I differentiate between the true Arab-Muslim-Americans and the Arab-Muslims in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter those very same good neighbors and children?

The events of September 11th changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of it's religions, with ALL of it's different citizens, with all of it's faults. It is time for every Arab-Muslim in this country to determine it for me.

I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know whether or not you love America. Do you pledge allegiance to it's flag? Do you proudly display in front of your house, or on your car? Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will protect and prosper it?

Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your "Jihads"? Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America?

If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it. Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America.

Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. And no more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about what is unprovoked to you.

I am not interested in any more sympathy ...I am only interested in action.

What will you do for America-our great country-at this time of crisis, at this time of war?

I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless America". I want to see young Arab-Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.

The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are.

Hand them over to us, now!

But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action.

Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals. The very few Arab-Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States prove who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders" like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.

If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good and pure and true when your "leaders" are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance. It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if large numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion.

A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members defended Johnny Cochran and O. J. Simpson after the latter butchered his wife and murdered an innocent friend. A form whose members (some as young a five years old) are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.

Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because our women proudly show their faces in public rather than cover up like a shameful whore? Do you and your fellow Muslims hate us because we drink wine with dinner, or celebrate Christmas? Do you and you fellow Muslims hate us because we have befriended Israel, the ONLY civilized democratic nation in the entire middle-east? And if you and your fellow Muslims hate us, then why in the world are you even here? Are you here to take our money? Are you here to undermine our peace and stability? Are you here to destroy us?

If so, I want you to leave. I want you to go back to your desert sandpit where women are treated like rats and dogs. I want you to take your religion, your friends, and your family back to your Islamic extremists, and STAY THERE! We will NEVER give in to your influence, your retarded mentality, your twisted, violent, intolerant religion.

We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the world.

I want to know where every Arab-Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it. A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand." "

Until then ... you worry me." ""



29 posted on 09/10/2002 10:52:53 AM PDT by B-Cause
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To: mikenola
Bump


THIS is what our Nation is responding to.
Please remember this in the difficult times ahead.

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30 posted on 09/10/2002 10:53:33 AM PDT by B-Cause
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To: mikenola
Arabic Religious Beliefs: "Humans cannot control all events".

Actually, as long as Guns and Ammunition remain legal in the USA,this is entirely incorrect.Mmmm Hmmmmm!LOL

31 posted on 09/10/2002 11:02:15 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: VOA

Palestinian woman is given "candy" by local merchant.
Palestinians danced in the streets in celebration of the attacks on Sept. 11.

What do I need to know beyond what I've seen of the Arab / Muslim culture ? Nothing.

They just suck.

32 posted on 09/10/2002 11:12:22 AM PDT by MassExodus
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To: dan909
Arabs are misunderstood and wrongly characterized by most Westerners.

I wonder why they would think that?

No, Islamists are not misunderstood.

They object to the fact that they are understood all too well.

Among other things, Islamists believe that:

  1. Wife-beating is perfectly acceptable.
  2. Rape victims are a disgrace to their families.
  3. Rape victims deserve to be stoned to death.
  4. A woman who commits adultery should be stoned to death.
  5. A man who commits adultery has been punished enough.

33 posted on 09/10/2002 11:16:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: MassExodus
Palestinian woman is given "candy" by local merchant.

One of my favorite visuals from the Jenin "massacre".
After hearing numerous journalists talk about the lack of food as a
deprivations suffered by the Palestinians due to the curfews imposed by the
EVIL Israelis,
there was the video tape of a lady (alive) being rescued from the basement
of her house (which had collapsed during the fighting).

There were about 20 Palestinian guys trying to pull this lady out of the pit
(looked like she was down in a basement).

She must have weighed 300-400 pounds.
She was more in danger of dying of morbid obesity than of taking a round from an Israeli rifle.
34 posted on 09/10/2002 11:16:46 AM PDT by VOA
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Arabic culture and the Islamic faith are deeply intertwined.

This question is meaningless when applied to Islam.

To be "intertwined" you must have two or more distinct items.

The is No distinction in Islam; it is One; just as there is no "politics". It is one big stew collectively known as Dar al Islam.

Failing to understand this is the source of so much BS, mischief and false hopes...

35 posted on 09/10/2002 11:18:19 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: dan909
the story this links to happened in Iran. Iranians are not Arabs.

Arabs are Islamists. Iranians are Islamists. End of story.

36 posted on 09/10/2002 11:19:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: dan909
the story this links to happened in Iran. Iranians are not Arabs. I believe this happened in Pakistan. Pakistanis are not Arabs.

Arabs are Islamists. Iranians are Islamists. Pakistanis are Islamists.

End of story.

37 posted on 09/10/2002 11:20:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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38 posted on 09/10/2002 11:20:27 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic
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To: mikenola
Other religions and their practices are generally treated with respect.

You're joking, right?

39 posted on 09/10/2002 11:25:12 AM PDT by Inkie
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To: mikenola
bump for later.
40 posted on 09/10/2002 12:21:30 PM PDT by Steve0113
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