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Pentagon considers a hit before buildup
The Washington Times ^ | 9/6/2002 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:54:25 AM PDT by robowombat

Pentagon considers a hit before buildup Rowan Scarborough THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Published 9/6/2002

The U.S. military would need 60 to 90 days to put a full invasion force of troops, tanks, ships and warplanes in position to attack Iraq, if President Bush authorizes an assault to topple Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

But the president could authorize a different kind of military buildup. Rather than following the World War II doctrine of positioning forces for months before attacking, the United States could begin an assault with forces now in the region, then bring in more troops.

About 100 U.S. and British aircraft yesterday took part in an attack on a major Iraqi air-defense installation, in the biggest single operation over the country in four years, the London Daily Telegraph reported. Twelve warplanes dropped precision-guided bombs in the raid, but scores of other support aircraft also took part in the attack in western Iraq.

The aim of using assault forces in the region before a full buildup would be to gain tactical advantage so that Saddam would not have time to order retaliatory strikes using chemical and biological weapons.

The Pentagon says it has an undisclosed amount of war-fighting equipment and gear, including M1A1 main battle tanks, pre-positioned in friendly Persian Gulf nations.

Army Secretary Thomas White said yesterday that some of that materiel was moved in July from Qatar to Kuwait on the Iraqi border. This is the area where any U.S. ground invasion is likely to begin. "We have done a lot with pre-positioned stocks in the Gulf, making sure they're accessible and that they're in the right spot to support whatever the president wants to do," Mr. White told a group of reporters, according to the Associated Press. "But we have done nothing specifically against any particular scenario," he said.

The Army secretary's remarks came the day after Reuters news agency cited a commercial shipping document in reporting that the U.S. Navy has booked a heavy transport ship to carry war-fighting gear to the Gulf.

In a build-first approach, the U.S. Transportation Command would need two months to move the tanks and armored vehicles on which Army soldiers would invade Iraq from Kuwait. More quickly, the Air Force would move fighter jets to bases in the Persian Gulf, including a new sprawling airfield in Qatar. The Navy would have to rearrange carrier commitments to ensure that Gen. Tommy Franks, who heads U.S. Central Command, would have two or more carrier battle groups to launch warplanes and Tomahawk cruise missiles.

The Air Force and Army maintain bases in Kuwait to enforce a southern no-fly zone and to deter Iraq from invading Kuwait, as it did in August 1990. The Army recently increased its troop strength and stepped up exercises in the desert outside Kuwait City as a show of force, while the United States wiped out Taliban and al Qaeda terrorist positions in Afghanistan.

The U.S. Air Force runs four main bases in the region: Prince Sultan in Saudi Arabia, the base in Kuwait, the airfield in Qatar and a NATO base in Incirlik, Turkey.

During the 1990s, Saudi rulers refused to let U.S. warplanes use Prince Sultan for strikes against Saddam's weapons facilities. The royal family does, however, let U.S. fighters launch from the base to enforce the southern no-fly zone over Iraq and for support aircraft, such as Airborne Warning and Control System planes.

During Operation Desert Storm, the 1991 U.S.-led offensive that liberated Kuwait from Saddam's invading army, the Saudis opened their country to hundreds of thousands of allied ground forces and hundreds of aircraft. But this time, the United States must find other nations to house an invasion force.

For that reason, and other considerations, some military experts are advocating three days of quick air strikes using forces now stationed in the Gulf, bolstering them with other forces in stages on a regular rotation. "If we do a buildup of any sort, it's most prudent to do so under the cover of what is already there for the war on terrorism," said a Desert Storm combat veteran, who asked not to be named. "If you do war buildup prior to any hostilities, the minute you start building up, it's a spear at Saddam's heart. This time he knows it's about him and not about Kuwait."

One big question being weighed by war planners is whether Saddam, with nothing to lose, would respond to an invasion by unleashing chemical weapons at Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Three days of lightning strikes using in-place forces would be designed to isolate Saddam, knock out his command and control facilities, and destroy any weapons of mass destruction he may have. "If you sit around and wait for a deployment, then in this war, which would be about destroying his weapons, you are really asking for him to use them on you," the combat veteran said.

Senior Bush administration officials have repeatedly said it is U.S. policy to seek a regime change in Iraq. In recent public comments, Vice President Richard B. Cheney and Mr. Bush have made the case for invading Iraq to ensure that Saddam never obtains nuclear weapons.

Saddam oversaw a comprehensive nuclear-weapons development program before Desert Storm, when allied jets bombed a number of key installations, according to a report this year by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

But the bombs did not kill his cadre of nuclear scientists and engineers or destroy Baghdad's nuclear-weapons designs. Experts say they believe Saddam has reconstituted much of his old program, moving it underground to escape U.S. bombs. Without fissile material, Baghdad would need five years to build weapons, the center's report said. "Less time would be needed if sufficient fissile material were acquired illicitly," the report said.

Copyright © 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; militaryoperations
'About 100 U.S. and British aircraft yesterday took part in an attack on a major Iraqi air-defense installation, in the biggest single operation over the country in four years'

It would appear the first elements of the Second Iraq War are already being executed.

1 posted on 09/06/2002 8:54:25 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat
Well, they're not going to be welcomed so they might as well layout their own red carpet...
2 posted on 09/06/2002 8:59:26 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: robowombat
We've been sniping them for weeks, blinding them. This most recent strike is the first major assault of the full war, IMHO.
3 posted on 09/06/2002 9:02:27 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion
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To: robowombat
Except that it is pure hype, and actually only 12 planes dropped munitions. They ran up the total to 100 to sound impressive by adding in every tanker and electronics plane in the whole theater, as "supporting" the strike, along with "air cover" by every other plane flying no-fly-zone patrols, etc. The actual attack was 9 US F-15s and 3 UK Tornados.
4 posted on 09/06/2002 9:05:22 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: robowombat
I keep wanting to predict this thing to start a month or two out based on the "experts" opinions regarding logistics.

But I haven't been able to shake that nagging feeling that I won't be watching football this Sunday...

5 posted on 09/06/2002 9:09:14 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras
While I'd like to watch some football too, I'd be glad to know that within a year of 9/11 occuring that we're still PUNISHING terrorists. GO GET 'EM GEORGE!
6 posted on 09/06/2002 9:18:52 AM PDT by Made In The USA
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To: Hatteras
I'm with you....this morning I am having the feeling that all the pomp and circumstance in New York (Congress) and the calls the President is making to world leaders now....is proof this war is now ON (The war on IRAQ, that is)....the WAR on Terrorism to me is a euphemism for a war on anyone who attacks us. The media, methinks, is going to be surprised when they find out they were left on the sidelines at the beginning......TOO BAD! But, I am feeling a bit apprehensive about it all, too.....
7 posted on 09/06/2002 9:24:15 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins
I've been watching the fighter wing at Ellington Field do high speed takeoffs all moring. Every one an F-16 with belly tanks and Sidewinders.

What're they training for, I wonder...
8 posted on 09/06/2002 9:28:47 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion
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To: robowombat
"The U.S. military would need 60 to 90 days..."

Yada yada yada...come on out in the sun, Saddam. You have 90 days to bronze that tan.

When in truth, it would take 60 to 90 SECONDS to start this thing. Basra and the "awl filds" can be taken and secured in 12 hours. The Kurds can be liberated in 2 days. Turkey would LOVE to join in this opn. Saddam could be completely and utterly blinded in less than a week.

I juss luv all the disinformation that's coming out of DC. Finally someone is in charge who knows how to fuel "misunderestimation."

Michael

9 posted on 09/06/2002 9:39:38 AM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: Frank_Discussion
"Every one an F-16 with belly tanks and Sidewinders."

Loose lips sink ships.
Many of us know a few bits and pieces of info, (many of us are either military and/or contractors), but not a good idea for us all to air them, especially not in the same place.
One of the draw-backs of a free and open society is that we have to depend on our sense of Patriotic duty for security, rather than on a crushing authoritarian overlord.
Please pray for our service men and women, and LET'S ROLL!!!

10 posted on 09/06/2002 9:41:58 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: robowombat
Maybe GWB will finally reveal on Wednesday that OBL is worm food.
11 posted on 09/06/2002 9:42:53 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Psalm 73
"Loose lips sink ships."

Should we coin LLSS? Yeah, I guess I could have been less detailed, but F-16's taking off at afterburner near a major highway are hard to miss. I didn't think it was too much of a news flash.

I found it inspiring. :-)
12 posted on 09/06/2002 9:45:16 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion
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To: Wright is right!
It's fun to think of Saddam hearing all these conflicting rumours in the press, and every day he gets another few assets blown away.

I particularly like the idea of using precision-guided munitions to take the roof off a building without damaging the "drones of death" (or whatever) inside so we can take their pictures.

I never thought of that. I always thought the idea of a bomb or missle you can guide into someone's "bathroom window" was just for showing off. But you can do so much more with the technology!

Remote precision demolition! Remote civil engineering! Remote hydrology! Remote machining! The possibilities are endless.

Have a nice day, Saddam!

(steely)

13 posted on 09/06/2002 10:01:10 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Dialup Llama
Maybe GWB will finally reveal on Wednesday that OBL is worm food.

Oh, stop teasing me! That would make my heart, the stock market, and polling numbers for many Republicans JUMP!

14 posted on 09/06/2002 10:04:10 AM PDT by Coop
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To: JasonC
Except that it is pure hype, and actually only 12 planes dropped munitions. They ran up the total to 100 to sound impressive by adding in every tanker and electronics plane in the whole theater, as "supporting" the strike, along with "air cover" by every other plane flying no-fly-zone patrols, etc. The actual attack was 9 US F-15s and 3 UK Tornados.

Yes ... and no. 12 aircraft to take out a radar/command facility is overkill in today's PGM world. F-15Es generally carry four 2000lb bombs (GBU-10 or 24, and their GPS equivilants)), eight 500lb bombs (GBU-12) or one 5000lb GBU-28 "Deep Throat" bunker buster. Tornados carry between 2 (1000/2000 pounders) or 3 (500/1000 pounders).

Dropping that much ordinance on one facility equates to utter obliteration ... the last few planes were probably just bouncing rubble. Given the location, the desire wasn't to take the facility down ... it was to take the thing OUT, permanently. Probably (as the article says) in preparation for the insertion of SpecOps forces to locate, fix and destroy Scuds.
15 posted on 09/06/2002 10:05:40 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Wright is right!
Oh yeah. President Bush has long known the usefulness of having his opposition think he's an idiot. Ann Richards still doesn't know what hit her.

16 posted on 09/06/2002 1:10:28 PM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: robowombat
"Witness the awesome firepower of this fully operational battle station!"
--Emperor Palpatine, "Return of the Jedi"

17 posted on 09/06/2002 1:11:58 PM PDT by mhking
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To: tanknetter
Dollars to donuts each strike aircraft in the package carried exactly 2 bombs. HARMs extra. No, they did not drop 24 bombs on one building, they dropped 24 bombs on one air defense complex, probably 1-2 bombs per building. I am sure they suppressed it by doing so. The Iraqis haven't hit anything in years, and won't with that facility's help for three months or whatever.

Big deal. This sort of thing has been going on for years, and the only reason people are reading more into it is because the 9-11 anniversary is near, and because of left panic over having to vote on a use of force resolution before the election, which has pushed the subject to the top of media radar. Resulting in extra heavy breathing about ongoing Iraqi air defense suppression, not extra heavy bombing.

18 posted on 09/06/2002 2:57:53 PM PDT by JasonC
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