Please help me breaking the wall! (China)

me ^ | 09/03/02 China time | me

[Lake]

I'm now in China and can't visited some of sites I used to browse from the US. I tried to use proxy servers to bypass the firewall, but didn't succeed. Looks like they are inspecting the strings within the requests and filtering all sites containing things they don't want people to see. Can anyone give me some ideas of how to break the wall? Thanks.

[SR71A]

Any suggestion that we would send to you about bypassing Chinese gov't firewalls would be intercepted by the government themselves, wouldn't it? Don't think that they are just using blocking, and not intercept and analysis. All they have to do is key on English words like "bypass", "firewall", etc.; look at the traffic and adjust their systems according to the traffic.

Good luck to you and your family.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

This could be a deliberate fake by the Chinese government to discover and destroy alternatives for Internet access. Who is sending this message? Chinese agents definitely monitor this site.

[AmishDude]

The Great Firewall of China.

BTW, I loved that episode. I'm waiting for South Park to get a Mongolian Barbeque to compete with City Wok.

[Monster Zero]

Hey, my apologies for the flippant reply. I don't know what your circumstances are to be in China with your wife and kids in Taiwan, but I wish the best to you and yours.

[Kaiwen]

I'm faced with the same problem. My experience is that no two ISPs filter exactly the same sites. For example, I can get FreeRepublic at work but not at home. So you might want to experiment with using different ISPs (try 163, 169, and some of the other dial-up ones.) Since they're billed to your phone, you don't need an account. If one doesn't let you get the sites you want, just use a different one next time.

Also, try to see if there are any mirrors for the sites you want to use. For example, when Google got blocked, I almost had a heart attack. My job involves checking facts on the web, and without Google, I'd be screwed. Luckily with a little work, I came across a few mirror sights that let you run Google searches.

If you need anything more specific, I might be able to help. Good luck!

[RightWhale]

they are not slow at all!

I heard that, too. The best and brightest young people are doing a fine job of policing the Internet in China. Pure dedication.

[quietolong]

Do People in Hong Kong Have the same problem ?

[Lake]

>>The best and brightest young people are doing a fine job of policing the Internet in China. Pure dedication.

Because they only care about money.

[Lake]

>>Do People in Hong Kong Have the same problem ?

I guess not.

[Lake]

>> So you might want to experiment with using different ISPs (try 163, 169, and some of the other dial-up ones.) Since they're billed to your phone, you don't need an account.

I'm using fiber optic connection at home with fixed IP.

>>If you need anything more specific, I might be able to help. Good luck!

Thank you very much. Would please drop a note in my mail box at FR?

[tallhappy]

Hey Comarade Hu -- this is what you defend all day here at Free Republic.

I think you are nuts and don't believe anything you say anyhow.

[Technocrat]

There's nothing so frightening as an intelligent bureaucracy. The only (almost) existing solution beyond that is a computationally intractable encrypted packet scatterer. You would see performance degradation of about 3 to 1 at best, and your web pages would show up all at once instead of gradually. The government engineers would understand it, and they would also understand that the only way to stop it would be to completely isolate China from the rest of the web.

The only other way I can think of that is more permanent is to create a class 4 semantic entity that is adaptive, goal-directed, and self-modifying and that can create a virtual firewall around the government workers, to make them think they are blocking the system when in fact they are not. That's still at least three years away, though, so you'll have to go with the inferior solution.

[tallhappy]

Lake has been a consistent and persistent propagandist for the ChiCom regime here at FR for a long time.

I have doubts about his sincerity on this. I'd be as likely to believe he is trying to find out what holes there are in the wall to report to the ChiCom authorities as readily as I would take his request as sincere.

[tallhappy]

If you need anything more specific, I might be able to help. Good luck!

I would not trust Lake. He has been a ChiCom propagandist here, making excuses for the despotism of the ChiCom regime for a long time.

You could just be telling them where to look to block access.

The ChiComs are in a heavy cycle of repression right now coinciding with their 16th Party congress meeting coming up in the next month or two.

Already a group of US based dissidents who had gone to Vietnam have disapeared. They likely went in to China and were caught.

Over 70 house church leaders have disapeared in the last few months and a person who has publicized the ChiCom governments horrible blood collecting practices that caused large amounts of people to be infected with HIV has disapeared.

[twigs]

His English is also excellent! I talk and email regularly with some Chinese friends who have lived and worked in our country for years. They still struggle with the language, particularly writing, and this man's English is nearly flawless.

[RightWhale]

he is trying to find out what holes there are in the wall

99-1 you are correct. This issue only.

[StolarStorm]

I think there are a number of red propogandists on this board, some subtle, some not.

Lake, if you are indeed working for the Chinese government, let your masters know that they are making a big mistake judging us by our silly media and Bill Clinton. At our heart, we are a decent people, but we are terrible in our vengence and strong when threatened. We are nice guys until you mess with us. Do not confuse our common decency with weakness... many have made that mistake and they have paid dearly for it.

Treat us fairly and with respect and we will be your best friends. Threaten us, insult us, attack our friends, shoot down our planes, steal our technology, bribe our political leaders... and you will be dealt with.

[Lake]

>>There's nothing so frightening as an intelligent bureaucracy.

Fortunately there are some nerds in China who outsmart the government engineers. They have told me some ways to workaround to get through the wall.

[Lake]

>>Hey Comarade Hu -- this is what you defend all day here at Free Republic.

You are addicted to distorting facts.

>>I think you are nuts and don't believe anything you say anyhow.

I think YOU are nuts and treat 99.99999999999999999% of people as enemies.

[Lake]

>>Lake, if you are indeed working for the Chinese government

No, I'm not. I'm just back to China and looking for a job.