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French May Ban Late - Night Porn
AP via NYTimes.com ^ | 9/1/02

Posted on 09/01/2002 12:55:02 PM PDT by GeneD

Filed at 3:23 p.m. ET

PARIS (AP) -- For nearly two decades it has been France's Saturday night naughtiness: no-holds-barred pornography, beamed to TV sets in millions of homes across the land.

All the while, few people complained about ``le porno du Samedi soir,'' as the French cheerfully call it -- until this summer. Then government-appointed regulators touched off a cultural debate by urging channels to drop the porn, and at the same time lobbying the legislature for the power to force compliance if TV executives don't go along.

The TV porn started back in 1984, when pioneering broadcaster Canal Plus introduced X-rated films on the first Saturday of the month to help build its image as a brash and racy new alternative to France's stuffy old channels.

Canal Plus, France's first pay-TV channel, has since blossomed into a darling of the cultural establishment, because it provides much-needed financial support to French filmmakers battling Hollywood domination.

But regulators and others say TV porn has gotten out of hand. They cite concerns that the increasing amount of such shows threatens the moral and mental well-being of young people.

It's not that France, long known for sexual openness and liberal mores, has suddenly grown prudish. Rather, the debate exposes the intensity of French fears that young people are becoming caught up by drugs, violence, sex and crime.

Crime, particularly increasing youth crime, was a dominant topic of presidential and parliamentary elections last spring. Among cases that made headlines: gang rapes of teenagers by other teens.

Few lay the blame for such violence squarely at pornography's door. But some experts argue that porn may help push some young criminals over the edge, and more generally that it degrades women and encourages unsafe sex practices.

One of the first actions of the center-right government that won June legislative elections was to commission political philosopher Blandine Kriegel to study violence on TV, including sexual violence.

``Doctors, psychologists, teachers and educators, lawyers, judges, journalists and finally parents think that violent images remain too easily accessible and available on television,'' said Culture Minister Jean-Jacques Aillagon. ``The government cannot remain indifferent to such a situation.''

The TV watchdog, the Conseil Superieur de L'Audiovisuel, says five French broadcast, cable and satellite channels carry 103 X-rated shows each month. When pay-per-view movies are included, the number rises to 943.

``Erotic programs always sell. Sex still interests people,'' said Richard Maroko, programming director for AB Groupe, whose porn channel XXL reaches 1 million cable and satellite subscribers.

But Maroko, speaking in a phone interview, said he did not want to comment about the proposed ban on TV porn. ``Too complicated,'' he said.

Other TV executives and critics of the proposed ban say singling out television will not stop young people from seeing porn on the Internet or videotapes, and say no prohibition can curb adolescent curiosity about sex. They also argue that banning porn from TV would infringe the rights of adults who watch it.

Canal Plus, which claims 4.9 million subscribers, says it has no intention of changing its programming. It says it broadcasts porn only between midnight and 5 a.m. and, in any event, parents can prevent children watching by unplugging the special receiver needed watch Canal broadcasts.

According to a study commissioned by the regulatory commission, 11 percent of children ages 4 to 12 in households that subscribe to Canal Plus see at least one minute of porn a year.

Some critics suggest part of the answer would be to punish adults who let children watch.

But for well-known French pornographer John B. Root the problem is not one of genre, but of the poor quality of many of today's porn movies.

``No one would have thought to make porn the scapegoat for society's ills if it offered amusing, well-made films, aphrodisiac works, stories of desire and of pleasure,'' Root wrote in an impassioned appeal against the proposed ban. ``Its subject matter is physical love -- a subject that has offered masterpieces to painting, sculpture and literature.''


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canalplus; france; pornography; television; vivendiuniversal
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Maybe there's hope for France after all.
1 posted on 09/01/2002 12:55:02 PM PDT by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Canal Plus?
2 posted on 09/01/2002 1:01:01 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise
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To: GeneD
"the problem is not one of genre, but of the poor quality".
OK. Let's brainstorm and see if we can think of ways to solve the problem.
3 posted on 09/01/2002 1:06:32 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: GeneD
Some critics suggest part of the answer would be to punish adults who let children watch.

The perverts are now the latest pooooor victims.

4 posted on 09/01/2002 1:08:34 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: BlessingInDisguise
Canal Plus?

It could rightly be called the Continental equivalent of "HBO". It is available also in the Netherlands, Belgium and Italy as well as France.

But like most Continental knockoffs of things American, this doesn't hold a candle to HBO.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 09/01/2002 1:10:07 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: GeneD
But for well-known French pornographer John B. Root the problem is not one of genre, but of the poor quality of many of today's porn movies.

LOL, yes, old school porn was of the highest "quality".

6 posted on 09/01/2002 1:14:22 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: aimhigh
You don't like good porn?
7 posted on 09/01/2002 1:15:28 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: GeneD
...Wwwwhat? Hope for France? I don't know for sure, but French citizens would love to choose, without government, what they say, do, watch, in private. If you don't like it , don't watch it!!!
8 posted on 09/01/2002 1:16:30 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: gargoyle
One day they may even decide they want to use strong encryption to protect their private files.
9 posted on 09/01/2002 1:17:29 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
One day they may even decide they want to use strong encryption to protect their private files.

On that day, look out your window and into the sky, you'll see a squadron of pigs veering off into the sunset.

Regards, Ivan

10 posted on 09/01/2002 1:19:48 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: GeneD
Alarm! Alarm! Somebody somewhere is having a good time!
11 posted on 09/01/2002 1:20:08 PM PDT by alpowolf
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To: MadIvan
Just thought the name Canal Plus was amusing, under the circumstances. Oh well...
12 posted on 09/01/2002 1:21:12 PM PDT by BlessingInDisguise
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
LOL, yes, old school porn was of the highest "quality".

Yes, porn in the old days had such great acting, sub-plots, and character development! Why, Marilyn Chambers was the veritable Liz Taylor of the genre....

13 posted on 09/01/2002 1:27:20 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
You don't like good porn?

Good is to porn as honesty is to Clinton. Certain things inherently lack certain qualities....

14 posted on 09/01/2002 1:31:26 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: alpowolf
Alarm! Alarm! Somebody somewhere is having a good time!

Fine, have a good time, here or in France, but if 11% of 4-12 year olds are seeing any adult porn that's 100% too much....

15 posted on 09/01/2002 1:34:35 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: GeneD
Rather, the debate exposes the intensity of French fears that young people are becoming caught up by drugs, violence, sex and crime.

Sounds like the solution is to ban liberals.

16 posted on 09/01/2002 1:36:47 PM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: GeneD
It's not that France, long known for sexual openness and liberal mores, has suddenly grown prudish.

It's not that we suddenly believe this might be bad for the kids...

Rather, the debate exposes the intensity of French fears that young people are becoming caught up by drugs, violence, sex and crime.

It's just that, suddenly, we believe this might be bad for the kids.

17 posted on 09/01/2002 1:39:40 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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943 x-rated films a month. 11,316 porn movies a year.

The French are very busy people indeed, either making or watching the stuff.



18 posted on 09/01/2002 1:59:09 PM PDT by catonsville
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To: GeneD
Are you kidding this sounds like one of the few good things about France.
19 posted on 09/01/2002 3:20:28 PM PDT by weikel
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To: freebilly
Porn used to have plots?
20 posted on 09/01/2002 3:21:38 PM PDT by weikel
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