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The man arrested in Germany with links to Bin Laden is Morroccan. The hijackers are mostly Saudis. Egyptians have been implicated too. Now another one, from Tunisia. It's the entire Middle East that this cancer has spread - the regimes there are either too cowardly or too complicit to stop it. Therefore, we must brace ourselves to take on the Muslim world.

They regard us as weak, decadent, spoilt by a liberal culture - and in some senses they are right. But we are stronger than they. Our ideas do not lead to subservience to the will of a mullah. Our ideas lead to the freedom of the individual, a freedom which will always be more powerful than any of the hateful, soul-denying ideologies we have faced in the past: Nazism, Communism and now Islam.

But let's not deny it, we are still at war, and will be for some time.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 08/30/2002 9:24:15 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: JohnHuang2
Your assistance, Your Pinging Majesty, would be most appreciated. ;)

Best Regards, Ivan

2 posted on 08/30/2002 9:24:59 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I don't know if the story's unclear about this, or I'm reading it wrong, but was the potential hijacker on the plane and taken off, or was he stopped before he boarded the plane?
6 posted on 08/30/2002 9:33:47 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: MadIvan
The conference - which attracts up to 3,000 Muslims from across Europe - is organised by Salafi.com, an Islamic online book shop. One of the key aims of the conference is to try to dispel the notion of links between Islam and terrorism.

Whoopsie! Er, (cough, cough) we swear by the prophet's camel, we didn't know anyone from Sweden was coming. (damned fool got caught!)

I'll just bet the all 3,000 of those miserable buggers are going to be thoroughly photographed, I.D.ed, etc. What a wonderful opportunity to get so many of them together.

13 posted on 08/30/2002 9:39:03 AM PDT by xJones
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To: MadIvan
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
15 posted on 08/30/2002 9:39:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: MadIvan
Yipes. Don't suppose I could talk you fellers into testing a very large bomb on that conference these boys are attending...could I?

If we're still dithering in the U.S. about allowing airline pilots to pack heat we've only ourselves to blame if one of these guys pulls that here.

17 posted on 08/30/2002 9:40:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MadIvan
Good Morning, Ivan. Like Detroit, Dallas, Kansas City and a whole host of other American cities, UK cities are infested with the vermin that condone, encourage, aid, abet, glorify, plan and execute acts of terror. I dont care what anyone says Islam sucks and it is a front for a cruel cult that seeks to dominate the world. Anyone who doesnt believe this should listen in to a sermon in any mosque in the US or the UK.
22 posted on 08/30/2002 9:43:08 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: MadIvan
"All the al Qaeda suspects held in Europe last year were Salafi followers"

Salafi - Wahhabiism, by any other name....

PS: "When questioned the suspect told them he did not know anything about the gun in his bag."

Yeah, and since lying is against his religion, it must be true. ( </sarcasm> )

25 posted on 08/30/2002 9:44:41 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: MadIvan
"People on board the Boeing 737-800 told today how heavily-"armed police suddenly surrounded the group, who were dressed in traditional Arab clothing, and handcuffed them at gunpoint. Passenger Elin Dermeborg, 27, a Swedish social worker visiting a friend in the UK, said: "We all got on the plane, then the crew came around and said 'We have got a group of people on the flight we don't feel secure with'."

Reading this post gives the impression that the suspect actually made it onto the airplane AFTER the firearm was detected prior to boarding.

I do not feel that it was in the best interest nor secure to allow the perp to board the plane which could then make this a hostage situation.

Due to the confined space of airplanes, the incident might have gotten ugly very quickly resulting in passenger deaths.

29 posted on 08/30/2002 9:47:19 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: MadIvan
"It's the entire Middle East that this cancer has spread - the regimes there are either too cowardly or too complicit to stop it."

It's been spreading for at least the last 1300 years. We, in our liberal-induced reverie, are late waking up to it, if, indeed we are at all, but better late than never.

31 posted on 08/30/2002 9:50:33 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: MadIvan
Thankfully this was stopped before it happened. Who knows how many more innocent lives would have been lost. Hang in there Ivan, their collective number is coming-up.
37 posted on 08/30/2002 10:00:40 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: MadIvan
Excellent observations.
42 posted on 08/30/2002 10:07:19 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: MadIvan
Mad, I know you're gonna think I'm a naive paintheass....

But what exactly in this story supports the title, "Hijack link to bin Laden."

The best I can see is that they are all adherents to this Salafi "religious sect." My Venn diagram of terrorists and non-terrorists doesn't tell me that all folks in this Salafi group are therefore "Linked" to Mr. Terrorist himself.

Is this flimsy link the absolute best our intrepid intelligence services can come up with?

49 posted on 08/30/2002 10:47:45 AM PDT by sam_paine
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To: MadIvan
Thank God they caught him. I hope this does not signal the beginning of a new wave.
69 posted on 08/30/2002 1:03:04 PM PDT by Michael2001
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To: MadIvan; knighthawk
He was one of a 20-strong party on their way to an Islamic festival in Birmingham
for followers of Salafi - a fundamentalist sect whose teachings are popular
with Bin Laden's terror group al Qaeda.


Salafi dolenda est!!!

(Latin for "Salafi Must Be Destroyed")
For those who haven't heard the phrase, one Roman senator ended every speech,
no matter the subject with "Carthago dolenda est!" (Carthage must be destroyed!").

Too bad B-1 Bob Dornan can't be giving speeches in the Congress ending with
"Al Queda dolenda est!".
120 posted on 08/30/2002 10:03:58 PM PDT by VOA
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To: MadIvan
The loaded gun was found in a washbag in the hand luggage of the man as he passed through a checkpoint to board Flight FR685 to Stansted.

I wonder what a washbag is.

121 posted on 08/30/2002 10:37:39 PM PDT by joyce11111
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