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The above should settle the question, on whether or not America was founded as a Christian nation.
1 posted on 08/29/2002 5:45:12 PM PDT by jstone78
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To: jstone78
Why no Tom Paine quotes?
2 posted on 08/29/2002 5:51:35 PM PDT by Shermy
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I'm afraid that there are a whole lot of other quotes from a great number of the founding fathers that would make a very strong case for them being Deists, at best.

The fairest argument that can be made is that these men were, like all men, a product of their time. They lived in a very religious time, towards the tail end of the era when your religion was usually defined by who your king was.

There is really no question that these men were motivated by many different influences, some religious but also some not religious, such as the belief in "natural law" and the innate right of individuals to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". The Bible had been around for centuries, it took the vision of men like Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, and many other great men to forge this new creation called "The United States of America".

To argue that the founding fathers were devout believers is as dishonest as claiming that they were all athiests. The truth is that they were men of their era, a era deeply influenced by religion and religious practices. Their writings, thoughts and comments reflect that reality.

Their primary intent was not to create a nation that was Christian, their primary intent was to create a nation that was free, where men could choose to believe or not believe however they wished without being molested by the state.

4 posted on 08/29/2002 5:56:05 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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Early America was a mostly Christian society and all the ideals that come along with that. The Founders, a smatterting of many faiths, were intelligent enough to see the dangers in a purely religious governent (midevel europe and the middle east are such GREAT places, huh) that they set up a SECULAR government to protect the natural (God given) rights of man including freedom religion.

This is problem for people to understand?

8 posted on 08/29/2002 6:14:57 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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Let's add the fact , that many early colonies had official state churches, all of which were Christian.
11 posted on 08/29/2002 6:53:41 PM PDT by TJFLSTRAT
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Ping and Japedo can you show this to MJ?
14 posted on 08/29/2002 7:46:00 PM PDT by dixie sass
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The above settles nothing. Many founders were Christian. They founded a secular state that happened to be inhabited by lots of Christians.
17 posted on 08/29/2002 8:31:55 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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Were our Founding Fathers Christian with a fervent love for the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

Yes, some of them were

Or were they primarily Deists, who only acknowledged the existence of a distant, impersonal god?

Yes, some of them were

Why is it so hard to accept both statements can be true.

Men change or modify their belief systems their entire lives as they learn and mature.

This is such a pointless agrument

18 posted on 08/29/2002 8:37:36 PM PDT by JZoback
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Why does it matter? America may have been founded by Xtians but it was not founded exclusively for Xtians was it?
19 posted on 08/29/2002 8:42:40 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: jstone78
Was America founded by Christians?

For the most part Yes indeed!

The above should settle the question, on whether or not America was founded as a Christian nation.

Well, not quite. The founders were, for the most part, Christians (followers of Christ)of that there can be NO doubt. It was however, NEVER their intent to create a Theocracy. Instead they chose to create a FEDERAL REPUBLIC with a system of law which was, and STILL is, ABOLUTELY based on concepts found in the Bible even though the national government currently bears LITTLE resemblance to which they envisioned!

21 posted on 08/30/2002 1:48:18 AM PDT by Bigun
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To: jstone78
Well done FReeper!!!
22 posted on 08/30/2002 1:52:48 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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bookmark bump
25 posted on 08/30/2002 2:53:41 AM PDT by Cacique
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There were both deists and Christians. I'm reading a new book on Ben Franklin. Toward the end of his life, he changed his mind, began to be curious about Christianity.
26 posted on 08/30/2002 11:52:20 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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Bump
27 posted on 09/01/2002 12:56:17 AM PDT by Michael2001
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bttt


29 posted on 08/16/2004 5:24:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: jstone78
Let's say I grant you that America was founded by christians? What then? Do expect that I, and those like me will suddenly become believers as a result?

I have trouble believing this is being debate purely for the academic reparte.

30 posted on 08/16/2004 5:27:09 PM PDT by Melas
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