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Al Qaeda Inmates Like Van Halen, Britney Spears, Led Zeppelin, and Eminem-AP/U.S. Soldier Reports
Yahoo News! AP | 8-29-02 | Ian James

Posted on 08/29/2002 2:37:11 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

A year after Sept. 11 attacks, fate of detainees in Cuba remains unknown

By IAN JAMES, Associated Press Writer

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - When the men accused of links to terrorism arrived in Cuba, some were forced to kneel, their hands and feet in shackles and their eyes covered with blackened goggles.

Photographs of their arrival prompted U.S. allies to demand explanations — and British newspapers to speak of torture. A year after the Sept. 11 attacks, criticism of the detainees' treatment has lessened, but questions are increasingly being asked about what will happen to them.

At least four have attempted suicide at the prison camp in eastern Cuba. The U.S. military says one tried to slash his wrists with a plastic razor and three tried to hang themselves.

Others among the 598 prisoners mark time chatting through diamond-shaped holes in their cell walls, praying in unison and sometimes joking with their American guards.

They have no calendars or clocks to keep track of time. The United States has not announced plans for trials of the detainees and is building more cells, making room for more captives as it considers waging war in Iraq.

"This is a new kind of war," said Lt. Col. Dennis Fink, spokesman for a task force in charge of interrogations. He said investigations of the detainees — which are shrouded in secrecy — will be conducted "for as long as it takes."

The U.S. military refuses to identify the captives, saying only that they come from 38 countries and are linked to the al-Qaida terrorist network or the fallen Taliban regime that ruled Afghanistan ( news - web sites).

The men haven't been charged and aren't allowed lawyers. The families of some have mounted legal challenges, but to no avail.

The detainees' letters to and from home — censored by the military and delivered by the International Committee of the Red Cross — are their only link to the outside world.

"He writes that he is comfortable, but he feels he has been wronged," said Khaled al-Oda in Kuwait, describing letters from his son, 24-year-old Fawzi al-Oda.

The Americans' silence is aggravating, he said. "They don't say how much longer they will be detained — two months, three, a year."

The U.S. government says the men could be tried by tribunals, returned home for trial, released or remain in detention.

Most American politicians back the indefinite detention. But U.S. Representative Alcee Hastings, a Florida Democrat, is critical.

"Nobody has any sympathy for terrorists,"said Hastings, who in February toured Camp X-ray where the detainees were initially held. "But all of us have a responsibility to exercise ourselves in a way that gives America the high moral ground."

The prisoners have been moved from Camp X-ray's chain-link cells to a permanent prison, Camp Delta, where solid walls obscure journalists' view. Weeds are rising in the deserted camp, which some human rights activists said resembled rows of animal cages.

After the military flew one detainee, Yaser Esam Hamdi, to a Virginia jail in April upon confirming he was a U.S. citizen born in Louisiana, some critics complained the United States had a double-standard — to the disadvantage of the foreign-born detainees.

Soldiers who guard detainees say desperation and loneliness are common. Thirty-seven prisoners are being treated or monitored for psychiatric problems. Some are on antidepressants or anti-psychotic drugs.

Kuwaiti detainee Abdulaziz Sayer Owain al-Shammari said in a letter in March that he was refusing food and water to demand freedom, a court hearing, or "to die as I cannot stand life in this place."

Each man is led to an enclosure twice a week for 15 minutes of exercise. Some run in circles. The military says inmates have gained 14 pounds (6 kilograms) on average.

The Muslim call to prayer wafts from loudspeakers five times a day. Meanwhile, five Muslim inmates have converted to Christianity.

"They just happened to need someone to talk to and saw me walking by," said Maj. Mike Merrill, a Protestant chaplain.

Sometimes the men yell at guards and spit or throw water at them. Other times, they crack jokes.

Sgt. Ylaine Harris, 25, of Clinton, Mississippi, recalled one man who grinned as he told her that he would like a Pepsi and a pizza.

"I just laughed," she said.

Sgt. 1st Class Wes Griffith, 32, of Kansas City, Missouri, said the inmates seem to like American music and sometimes sing to the guards.

"I've heard Eminem ( news - web sites)," he said. "Britney Spears comes out a lot. I've heard some Led Zeppelin, Van Halen."

The 204 additional cells being built exceed the 50 or so detainees held by U.S. forces in Afghanistan.

Lt. Col. Fink, a former investigator for the New York Fire Department who knew victims of the World Trade Center attack, said memories of the attacks remind investigators of their aim in the time-consuming interrogations.

"It's a long process, but it is producing results," he said. "We're trying to prevent another 9-11."


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To: My Favorite Headache
Just as long as they have their VH,Britney,Magazines,Newspapers etc...

Well, the article doesn't say they had access to these things at Gitmo - it just says they were singing. Singing songs they must have learned before they were incarcerated. Which calls into question the depth of their real commitment to Islam...

21 posted on 08/29/2002 3:30:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I think it is obvious that a radio is on.
22 posted on 08/29/2002 3:33:28 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
It doesn't say they listen to the music, just that they sing it. I would imagine any listening is simply because the guards have radios.
23 posted on 08/29/2002 3:37:47 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: sharktrager
Exactly. The guards have radios and these guys are acting like they are at a local prison lock-up. Sorry. These are terrorists who want us dead. This article is written to come off cute that they sing these songs. These people are our worst enemy. They should be in complete silence and then put into hard labor.
24 posted on 08/29/2002 3:39:58 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: sharktrager
Sounds like their taste in music is just as rotten as their politics!
25 posted on 08/29/2002 3:40:25 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: sharktrager
I was not amused that Al Qaeda members are asking for pizza and pepsi like it was some birthday party. The AP commenting on the guard that she laughed. I know she was laughing in disbelief but this cute crap with Al Qaeda makes me puke.
26 posted on 08/29/2002 3:41:40 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
Al Qaeda Inmates Like Van Halen, Britney Spears, Led Zeppelin, and Eminem-AP/U.S. Soldier Reports

Time to devise new forms of torure that the ACLU won't notice.
I hear they are putting on weight. Perhaps we can get them to sit through a seminar by Richard Simmons.
Al Gore isn't busy. I'm sure he'll need to practice speeches.

The Muslim call to prayer wafts from loudspeakers five times a day. Meanwhile, five Muslim inmates have converted to Christianity.
"They just happened to need someone to talk to and saw me walking by," said Maj. Mike Merrill, a Protestant chaplain.

Stockholm syndrom can work for the good guys.

27 posted on 08/29/2002 4:12:42 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: tet68
Now, tet. You know very well that even this scum doesn't deserve that kind of torture.
28 posted on 08/29/2002 4:21:34 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: tet68
Hey hey hey! Leave Meatloaf alone!
29 posted on 08/29/2002 4:21:46 PM PDT by Indiana Girl
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To: Indiana Girl
Bump
30 posted on 08/29/2002 7:32:05 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Indiana Girl; tet68
I agree with you--somewhat--Indi. Of the three, I'd take Meatloaf. (That's not saying much, mind you.)
31 posted on 08/29/2002 7:37:14 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: My Favorite Headache; TheBigB; dfwgator
Take me home,
I promise I won't
Pierce my ears
Or look at girls like
Britney Spears.

-- From "Hello Mullah, Hello Fatah (Camp Osama)"

33 posted on 08/29/2002 8:07:03 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: TheBigB
You guys can put Britney down all you like, but I guarantee the Marines guarding those prisoners would look at that poster and say, "Now THAT'S what we're fighting for!"
34 posted on 08/30/2002 12:08:57 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: one_particular_harbour
If it were me, I'd force them to listen to Toby Keith's "Red White and Blue" 24/7...
35 posted on 08/30/2002 1:02:54 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: eureka!
The Stockholm Syndrome. Next thing you know is that they'll want 'Rat ballots in November....

And the 'Rats will insist they get 'em.

36 posted on 09/01/2002 4:47:50 AM PDT by wotan
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To: My Favorite Headache
There's an National Geographic program about the Russian/Afghan war that features an Afghani "warlord" who was raised in the United States.

It shows this guy barreling down a road in Afghanistan while blasting AC/DC's Back In Black through the truck's cassette deck. It's strange to say the least. I wonder if he's still alive.

37 posted on 09/01/2002 5:00:12 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Kenton
Amen to that :)
38 posted on 09/01/2002 7:42:07 PM PDT by College Repub
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To: My Favorite Headache
Kuwaiti detainee Abdulaziz Sayer Owain al-Shammari

There's gratitude for you. Remember that 'Gulf War' thing dude..............? You know, when Saddam's Republican Guards poured over the border and essentially held Kuwaitt hostage? These guys are incredible.

39 posted on 09/01/2002 7:42:35 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: My Favorite Headache
So they like Led Zeppelin, eh?..............."Your Time is Gonna Come", I suppose.
40 posted on 09/01/2002 7:48:08 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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