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BREAKING NEWS: Kitzhaber Pushes for Across-the-Board Budget Cuts (Oregon Gov. Forced to make cuts)
KGW.com ^ | 08/27/2002 | By AP and KGW Staff

Posted on 08/27/2002 2:16:57 PM PDT by scrubber

Governor John Kitzhaber recommended across-the-board cuts to solve a budget shortfall he says could reach $450 million.

Kitzhaber made the announcement in a press conference in Salem this afternoon. He said the cuts could include the reduction of the school year by three weeks, closing four of the state's five regional juvenile facilites and laying off 100 state troopers, among other things.

He said that each day lawmakers delay taking action, they will deepen the impacts of cuts.

The governor is also calling for a fifth special session sometime next week. He hasn't said what day the session should start. Kitzhaber wants lawmakers to meet soon enough to put a tax measure, possibly an income tax increase, on the Nov. 5 ballot. He said the deadline for doing that is Sept. 7.

He said erasing the shortfall solely with cuts would slash spending by as much as 20 percent for the rest of the two-year budget period ending next June. Leaders of the Republican-run Legislature didn't rule out a tax increase but gave no indication that their opposition has lessened.

Kitzhaber said he continues to oppose bond borrowings to close the budget hole because that would shift debt onto the 2003 Legislature. Legislators last week upheld his veto of a bill that would have borrowed $50 million from future cigarette tax revenue to use for state school support.

Republicans have accused Kitzhaber of agreeing to things in private only to switch his stance later.

Kitzhaber has said GOP lawmakers' accounts have left out conditions he attached to agreements and said Monday the open meeting was fine.

Lawmakers last week finished a fourth special session, a two-day meeting held just to act on Kitzhaber's vetoes of two measures from the third special session, in June.

Legislators overrode his veto of a bill shifting $267 million in school aid to the next budget, to shrink the shortfall in this budget. It allows schools districts to borrow against the future payment in this budget period.

The June special budget session dealt with a gap mostly caused by a $550 million decline in income tax revenue, and the new hole is approaching that magnitude.

Kitzhaber last week outlined potential spending cuts based on a $350 million dollar shortfall, estimating the gap would be between $300 million and $400 million. He said Monday new data indicate a shortfall of around $450 million. The recession has caused tax revenue to plunge by more than $1.3 billion since lawmakers adopted the $12 billion, two-year budget in July 2001.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: budget; cylviahayes; johnkitzhaber; kitzhaber; oregon; taxes
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To: scrubber
This is key...

"The governor is also calling for a fifth special session sometime next week. He hasn't said what day the session should start. Kitzhaber wants lawmakers to meet soon enough to put a tax measure, possibly an income tax increase, on the Nov. 5 ballot. He said the deadline for doing that is Sept. 7."

21 posted on 08/27/2002 7:59:10 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: jimtorr

Tell me, sir, how you and your family would do if your benefit package were cut by 15%? That includes pension, insurance, vacation days, sick days and I don't remember what all.

Nonsense!

If that were to happen to me, I'd follow the advice I initially gave - get out of the public trough and get a real job in the private sector!



22 posted on 08/27/2002 8:47:16 PM PDT by B-Cause
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To: B-Cause
As typical you assume I have a gov't job.. what is wrong with a gov't job anyways? Would you expect our military to take a pay cut? And what exactly do you determine is a fair wage.. do you think a Navy Seal one of the most elite troopers in the world deserves less money than say a baseball player? What's so great about the private sector besides rewarding the theifing lying corporate scumbags that we see today. Thanks for playing and have a nice day.
23 posted on 08/27/2002 9:38:21 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
Why should gov't employees take pay cuts

Because this is the poorest state in the Union. THis state has the highest unemployment figures in the Nation.

Many people are unemployed, and, so how can they keep paying the high taxes?

The government here has swelled to a giagantic albatross around our necks...THAT'S WHY!!!!

24 posted on 08/27/2002 9:38:37 PM PDT by joyce11111
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To: stubernx98
I'll try this again. Hmm I make a point and you assume I know none of that. I work in private.. do sales to business. Talk to the decision makers you consult all day long. Don't lecture me. What I will take you in a whim is that you are right.. Corporations did what they had to do in the late 80's early 90's which was trim the fat which gov't cannot seem to do.. streamline.. organize and cut down on big budget.. of course that means cutting jobs and seeing a much higher unemployment.. i would imagine at least a good percent jump.. never good for the private sector and the stock market.. who knows... besides this could lead into a much larger argument about the fiscal deficit which will be argued for centuries on exactly how much a deficit is the right one to have.
25 posted on 08/27/2002 9:42:52 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: joyce11111
I guess you should hang yourself for that then.. you voted the morons into office. Don't you love democracy!
26 posted on 08/27/2002 9:43:50 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: scrubber
Cut the state government in half or more for starters....
27 posted on 08/27/2002 9:45:01 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Almondjoy
No need for a hanging here, I did not vote for the miscreants.

This state is poor because of the liberal socialist programs enacted that have ruined the budget.

28 posted on 08/27/2002 10:00:06 PM PDT by joyce11111
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To: scrubber
Poor Kitzhopper.
29 posted on 08/27/2002 10:08:00 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Joe Boucher
How about having the govt. employees take pay cuts?

Bingo!

30 posted on 08/27/2002 10:08:58 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: scrubber
Cool! Here we go again!

Tennessee, California, Oregon and many other states are grappling with their budgets and it's the same everywhere - - it's the parasites vs. the taxpayers.

But no matter what the Republicans do, the parasites will always vote for the Democrats. Parasites are the Democrats' main constituency. That will never change. And Democrats use money confiscated from working, traditional American families (the Republicans' main constituency) to buy the votes of the parasites.

So, if the Republicans agree to raise taxes all they are doing is giving their mortal enemies, the Democrats, additional resources to fight them with. It would be like a Marine throwing a loaded rifle to a Viet Cong fighter.

How stupid would the Republicans have to be to agree to a tax increase?

31 posted on 08/27/2002 10:24:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Almondjoy

And what exactly do you determine is a fair wage.

Try . . . THE FREE & PRIVATE MARKET!



32 posted on 08/27/2002 11:06:38 PM PDT by B-Cause
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To: hattend
"Too bad he killed the timber industry. The taxes/fees collected from them could have saved him the trouble."

HUGE AMEN TO THAT! That is the most significant creation of wealth Oregon has blessed with and it has allowed the subversive socialists in the gubmint to shut it down. They would rather let the gypsy moths have the trees that allow them to provide incomes and revenues.

33 posted on 08/27/2002 11:29:42 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Almondjoy
My company does make a profit and has for the last 14 years in a row. As the owner and manager of my company I don't constantly try to operate beyond our means like govt. constantly does. I also don't have to deal with out of control unions and I don't have work rules that allow employees to do no work for their pay.
When I got out of the Army while going to college I worked as a dispatcher at Bay Pines Medical center in St. Pete Fl.
2 painters I met there. One worked so very well I'd love to have had him paint my home. Another was so poor I wouldn't let him paint my dogs house. Both hired approx. the same time. Both made the same salary. Why? where is the incentive? There is none in the socialist way of govt.
Govt. employees are fat lazy and usually don't try too hard because there is no incentive to give a damn. Raise taxes for more pathetic govt programs that last forever and just don't work.
34 posted on 08/28/2002 1:24:36 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: plain talk
works for me. I don't derive much at all from govt. except to constantly take more of my hard earned income.
35 posted on 08/28/2002 1:27:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: scrubber; madfly
Oregon wouldn't be in such bad shape if the Democrats hadn't made business here the most heavily regulated in the country. And if the Democrats hadn't gone on spending binges. The budget cuts will be done by this governor in a way to punish Oregon voters for not supporting his exhorbitant tax increases. That's just how the Democrats naturally operate.
36 posted on 08/28/2002 5:50:09 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: stubernx98; hsmomx3
Gees... Get a clue, many of us in Oregon don't want as much government as we pay for. Personally I would like to see most state employees take 52 weeks of vacation and leave the rest of us the hell alone. Efficiency is the LAST thing that is needed.
37 posted on 08/28/2002 6:48:31 AM PDT by DeSoto
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To: DeSoto
Bump

Ditto!

38 posted on 08/28/2002 8:31:42 AM PDT by B-Cause
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To: DeSoto


YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK!

Below is a photo Lucianne has labelled:


"Hawk-eyed screener checks out potential-crazed-shoe-bomber before would-be-terrorist dozes off."



39 posted on 08/28/2002 8:44:49 AM PDT by B-Cause
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To: B-Cause
That's a great idea.. why don't we privatize our military.. good one sport.
40 posted on 08/28/2002 2:18:44 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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