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N.Y. Shows Black Market Cigarettes
AP Online via COMTEX ^ | Aug 26, 2002 | ERIN McCLAM

Posted on 08/26/2002 3:14:45 PM PDT by grimalkin

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41 posted on 08/26/2002 4:43:44 PM PDT by Davis
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To: grimalkin
The city seized 11,871 packs - or 237,420 individual cigarettes - from 40 unlicensed sellers between February 2001 and February 2002, said Pansy Mullings

Less than 1,000 packs per month. (ONE typical gas station will have about 1000 packs at any given time)
Less than ONE unlicensed seller per week.
This netted $14,000, for one year's work, which probably cost NY about $500,000. Sheer genius, since justifying their existence and finding reasons to inrease their budgets are the top functions of every bureaucrat.

42 posted on 08/26/2002 4:44:26 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Cobra64
Does anyone ever study economics anymore?

Normal people would understand what you said.

Control freaks just dig their heels deeper. It's a mental health thing.

43 posted on 08/26/2002 4:48:18 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Cobra64
Does anyone ever study economics anymore?

NY City is getting a first-hand lesson in the Laffer Curve, and from all the bitching and moaning and cracking down, it's obvious they've seen a revenue drop and aren't at all happy about it.

44 posted on 08/26/2002 4:48:19 PM PDT by Monitor
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To: SheLion
Gotten any word on how it went?
45 posted on 08/26/2002 4:49:00 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
The last time I read statistics about the USA smoking population, it was about 30%. These smokers are feeling the effects of discrimination, socially and through their wallet. Imagine if we treated our 13% of our Negroe/Black/Brown/African-American population in this manner?
46 posted on 08/26/2002 4:53:05 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Monitor
it's obvious they've seen a revenue drop and aren't at all happy about it.

Pity


47 posted on 08/26/2002 4:57:49 PM PDT by SheLion
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The crackdown is evidence that Mayor Michael Bloomberg is serious in his "campaign against tobacco," said Gretchen Dykstra, the city's commissioner of consumer affairs.

What a crock of BS - the crackdown was started by the Guiliania administration. Bloominidiot didn't have a damn thing to do with it.

I no longer miss the city of my birth.

48 posted on 08/26/2002 4:58:05 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Madame Dufarge
Gotten any word on how it went?

Not yet. We are all on pins and needles until we get a report. I hope it doesn't turn into a fist fight. You know how people can be.........

49 posted on 08/26/2002 4:58:54 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: Teacher317
Big Bravo for the black market and boo-hiss to NYC and Mikey Bloomberg bump. My wife's ex-boss worked for him and I am told he's always been a complete pr!ck!!!
50 posted on 08/26/2002 5:00:07 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: SheLion
Where do you buy the cigarette machine and what kind of tobacco do you put in them? I smoke Winston and am picky about my brand. I tried the cheapies and it's like drinking coffee you don't like to save money. I refuse to do that!
51 posted on 08/26/2002 5:02:32 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Max McGarrity
Hey, Al Capone considered Prohibition a great success!

So did Joe Kennedy

His big boy is one of the biggest antis on the Hill - gee, I wonder if their coffers need to be refilled because of all the other undesirable things that clan has been doing over the years!!!!!!!!

52 posted on 08/26/2002 5:02:32 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: SheLion
You speak good sense. I wish all non-smokers would wake up and smell the roses? When I think "Bloomberg," I smell garbage.

You'd think the Liberals-turned-Republicans would have more to worry about, but no. The beat goes on.

53 posted on 08/26/2002 5:06:03 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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And as soon as they open those slots in PA, Delaware will tank - because they just banned smoking at the slots here.
54 posted on 08/26/2002 5:06:29 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Fraulein
I see you're aware that old Adolf did not permit smoking in his presence.
55 posted on 08/26/2002 5:08:40 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: grimalkin
Rudy Guilianni - Personal strength in the face of crisis. Comforted an entire city. Remembered as a hero.

Michael Bloomberg - Fascist anti-smoking idiot who focused on the "War on smoking" during the "War on terrosism". Remembered as a nitwit.

56 posted on 08/26/2002 5:09:46 PM PDT by Caipirabob
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But if you raise taxes beyond a certain point, tax revenues may in fact decrease, because virtually everybody smuggles. Bloomberg may have passed that point on the graph.
57 posted on 08/26/2002 5:10:20 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Adolf was obsessed with purity in many different ways.
58 posted on 08/26/2002 5:14:59 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: Monitor
NY City is getting a first-hand lesson in the Laffer Curve, and from all the bitching and moaning and cracking down, it's obvious they've seen a revenue drop and aren't at all happy about it.

Bloomberg was probably warned by his advisers, but stubbornly paid no attention to them.

Hey, Bloomberg, what made you think New Yorkers would roll over for your tax? New Yorkers jaywalk, got it? They don't pay any attention to idiotic laws.

59 posted on 08/26/2002 5:15:09 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Jaidyn
Where do you buy the cigarette machine and what kind of tobacco do you put in them? I smoke Winston and am picky about my brand. I tried the cheapies and it's like drinking coffee you don't like to save money. I refuse to do that!

The quick page to Rolling Your Own

I smoked More Menthol 120's for many years. Never thought I could switch, ever. But when the taxes made my cigarettes at an unbearable price, I found out from friends on the Net about Rolling Our Own.

I remembered we have a Smoke Shop downtown. We went in and that was a year ago this past June. Have not bought another pack/carton of cigarettes since. And I am really happy with this tobacco, which is menthol. You can buy regular tobacco or menthol. Lots of people say the regular tobacco taste just like Winston, etc.

60 posted on 08/26/2002 5:17:02 PM PDT by SheLion
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