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POLL TAX 2002
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | August 26, 2002 | Daily News Editorial Board (Phi)

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:25:59 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel

 

IN A panic that Democratic gubernatorial candidate Ed Rendell might have electoral coattails, it's not surprising that Pennsylvania Republicans would try to suppress Democratic turnout.

What is surprising is the ugly and cynical way they're going about it.

Supposedly in response to voter fraud, House Republicans passed a bill that would require registered voters to provide either their county voter identification cards or photo identification before being allowed to vote. It goes to the Senate in the fall.

We don't think it's a coincidence that the people most likely to be affected by the requirements - the elderly, poor and minorities - are among those most likely to vote Democratic. They also are the least likely to have driver's licenses or passports. Getting a nondriver's-license ID costs money ($10) and time (sometimes several hours' wait at the PennDOT office) and sets up a two-tiered, unequal system for exercising the franchise.

The Republicans' scheme has been compared to the "poll tax" levied in the old South to prevent blacks from voting. In some ways, it's worse: combing an extra cost with bureaucratic barriers. Either way, it's un-American.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: polltax; voterid; votescamming; whining
We don't think it's a coincidence that the people most likely to be affected by the requirements - the elderly, poor and minorities - are among those most likely to vote Democratic.

Exactly why are the elderly, poor and minorities more likely than anyone else to have lost or discarded their voter registration card?

They also are the least likely to have driver's licenses or passports. Getting a nondriver's-license ID costs money ($10)

But a voter registration card is free and can be obtained with a simple phone call or a letter.

Seems like if someone was really serious about voting and not just doing it to get the ten dollars for riding the church bus and voting the straight dem ticket, they’d have their voter registration card.

Isn’t this really more about stopping serial voters and the deceased from placing ballots?

Owl_Eagle

” WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"


1 posted on 08/26/2002 7:25:59 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: Owl_Eagle
What is surprising is the ugly and cynical way they're going about it.

While the Filtydelphia Inquirer is so intent about accusing Republicans of being "ugly and cynical", perhaps they can write a litle story explaining how Filtydelphia had more than 100% of it's registered voting population vote in the 2000 elections - overwhelmingly Demoncrat, of course!

2 posted on 08/26/2002 7:31:53 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Owl_Eagle
Man, I hope they (the senate) pass this. Didn't some precincts in Philly have close to 100% voter turnout?
3 posted on 08/26/2002 7:35:17 AM PDT by stevio
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To: Owl_Eagle
Man, I hope they (the senate) pass this. Didn't some precincts in Philly have close to 100% voter turnout in the 2000 election?
4 posted on 08/26/2002 7:35:59 AM PDT by stevio
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To: Gritty
I still want a federal marshall sitting at the check in booth instead of aunt Clara (retired - UAW/Local 555) and fingerprinting with a verbal warning regarding punishment for election fraud would go a long way toward preventing another Fla (or St. Louis, Detroit, Chicago, etc.). Dems would NEVER do it.
5 posted on 08/26/2002 7:35:59 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Owl_Eagle
Getting a nondriver's-license ID costs money ($10) and time (sometimes several hours' wait at the PennDOT office) and sets up a two-tiered, unequal system for exercising the franchise.

This author's objections are about the most frivolous I've ever seen. It's appalling how some people are such apologists for vote fraud.

6 posted on 08/26/2002 7:40:58 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: Owl_Eagle
So essentially they're upset that Republicans are trying to ensure that a citizen's right to vote is protected and preserved only for that individual?
7 posted on 08/26/2002 7:42:16 AM PDT by Coop
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To: Owl_Eagle
We don't think it's a coincidence that the people most likely to be affected by the requirements - the elderly, poor and minorities - are among those most likely to vote Democratic.

Elderly -- How is easy is it to get Social Security and/or Medicaid benefits without a photo ID? Anyone know?

Poor -- How easy is it to get Welfare payments without a photo ID? Anyone know?

Minorities -- In what way are they targeted? This legislation seems suitably color-blind. Are we to believe that they getting picked-on because the rabble-rousers say they are getting picked-on? Al Sharpton says so?

8 posted on 08/26/2002 7:42:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Gritty; stevio
perhaps they can write a litle story explaining how Filtydelphia had more than 100% of it's registered voting population vote in the 2000 elections - overwhelmingly Demoncrat, of course!

Not to come across as defending voter fraud, but that very commonly quoted statistic simply isn’t true. Yes, there’s certainly voter fraud, and PLENTY of it. In fact, the Mayoral election was almost certainly swiped from Republican Sam Katz.

However, when we play fast and loose with the truth, we loose credibility in the eyes of anyone who does some elementary investigation. It was actually 54.73% which is still laughable, but it’s also very easy to disprove the assertion that more than 100% of it’s registered voting population voted in the 2000 elections.

The real point here is that the voter registration total is 98.6% of the population that is eligible to vote. Obviously this is due to the fact that the voter roles haven’t experienced a real purge in the last 20 years.

Owl_Eagle

” WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"


9 posted on 08/26/2002 7:51:09 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: Owl_Eagle
House Republicans passed a bill that would require registered voters to provide either their county voter identification cards or photo identification before being allowed to vote.

Nice move. Of course these idiots think voting rights security is a freakin poll tax ...

10 posted on 08/26/2002 7:53:45 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Gritty; stevio
More info on 2000 Philadelphia Election Results
11 posted on 08/26/2002 7:54:13 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: Owl_Eagle
Getting a nondriver's-license ID costs money ($10)

Most people without a driver-liscese alread have a nondriver's license ID as they do need proof of age to buy booze. I am not saying poor people are booze hounds but just about everyone in the America enjoys a beer after work.

12 posted on 08/26/2002 8:27:23 AM PDT by Sinner6
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To: Sinner6
I am not saying poor people are booze hounds but just about everyone in the America enjoys a beer after work.

If people actually ever experienced “after work”, they probably wouldn’t be poor in the first place! ;-)

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

13 posted on 08/26/2002 8:34:44 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: Owl_Eagle
Thanks for the link.

I stand corrected in the "over 100%" assertion concerning registered voters. Apparently that is an urban legend too easily believed, especially in the case of Filthydelphia.

Perhaps I would have been more accurate in stating "there is a 100% likelihood massive voter fraud occurs every single election in Filthydelphia!".

No doubt it is also accurate it is "100% likely the mobster Demoncrat politician Ed Rendell has always been the recipient of it's largess!".

14 posted on 08/26/2002 9:16:08 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: Owl_Eagle
(sometimes several hours' wait at the PennDOT office)

But most of the time you're in and out in under 20 minutes?

Also, why don't the House Republicans cut the price for a nondriver's-license ID to an insignificant $1 prior to the elections?

15 posted on 08/26/2002 10:05:36 AM PDT by j271
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To: tdadams
This author's objections are about the most frivolous I've ever seen.

Don't they realize that they're embarassing themselves in the eyes of any objective observer?

Maybe they do, and that's one of the benefits of the "Editorial Board" writing it. No single person can be shamed by being held responsible for this nonsense.

16 posted on 08/26/2002 10:11:54 AM PDT by j271
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To: Owl_Eagle
This proposal does nothing to stop fraud at the polling place itself. Look to Baltimore in the last 2 gubernatorial elections for a few ideas...

It *should* stop people voting for others that had no intention to vote. It *should* stop votes from the dead. We'll see.
17 posted on 08/26/2002 10:28:59 AM PDT by Berthold
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To: Berthold
This proposal does nothing to stop fraud at the polling place itself.

I wouldn’t go quite so far as to say it does nothing. True, serial voters can just show up at different polling places with counterfeit voter registration cards and ward leaders can add a few dozen votes to the machine before the polls open. However, at least it will put a kink in the plans of any young white dem male who was planning on showing up to vote for Ovella Rufton.

Owl_Eagle

”Unleash the Hogs of Peace.”
P.J. O’Rourke Parliament of Whores

18 posted on 08/26/2002 10:46:14 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: stevio
Yes. 105% is close to 100%
19 posted on 08/26/2002 11:43:44 AM PDT by Ingtar
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