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1 posted on 08/22/2002 8:37:01 AM PDT by Kevin Kelley
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To: Kevin Kelley
Welcome to FR Kevin.
2 posted on 08/22/2002 8:39:39 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: countrydummy; sauropod; AAABEST; madfly; farmfriend
Preview of what will happen to the suburbanites in FL that support the everglades boondoggle. Once people are confined to small spaces, the 'single home owners' will lose to the same emminent domain BS for high rise/dense housing projects 'for the people'. I mean really, if a majority of the people vote for it, who can deny it's a good thing?
3 posted on 08/22/2002 8:40:24 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Kevin Kelley
Welcome to FR. Find the property rights folx and hang with them, you'll fit in just fine I think! :)
4 posted on 08/22/2002 8:42:07 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Kevin Kelley
The only reason they have an affordable housing crisis is they used the tax money of those who can't afford housing to buy rich people large backyards aka "open space" or what Thomas Sowell calls "housing bans".
5 posted on 08/22/2002 8:44:14 AM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: Kevin Kelley
I'm sure this is going to a federal court.
7 posted on 08/22/2002 8:49:13 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Kevin Kelley
Welcome aboard. Nice first post!
10 posted on 08/22/2002 9:21:24 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: Kevin Kelley
You Think You Own Your Property?....Not in Boulder

Not anywhere in the US. You are just renting it from the government (by paying property taxes). Your deed just grants you a limited degree of control over the property, with terms subject to change whenever the government chooses to change them.

11 posted on 08/22/2002 9:24:21 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Kevin Kelley
Hi Kevin, & welcome. Here in Washington state a city council has condemned LAND owned by a church because they say COSTCO will make a "better" neighbor and they are in cahoots with the company to build a new store. The church (that was planning to build) is not taking this quietly and have filed a law suit, thank goodness. And here I thought only buildings were condemned for being unsafe! It's unbelievable that a citizens private business & legally owned land can be shut down at the whim of a city council...no wait, we must be talking about the USSR...
13 posted on 08/22/2002 10:24:41 AM PDT by Libertina
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To: Kevin Kelley
Welcome... FYI--

-The Thoreau Institute Urban Growth and Transportation Studies--

has a lot of info & opinion refuting the "urban sprawl," "Lite rail/mass transit" and related items...

And more here:

-Independence Institute--"Rights" Research

14 posted on 08/22/2002 10:29:34 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Kevin Kelley
How else can they create Utopia, when ordinary landowners don't want to participate? Condemnation is the only way to make it work, and when we have the perfect community, everyone will be glad. /sarcasm off
17 posted on 08/22/2002 10:35:07 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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To: Kevin Kelley
Pollard Motors is a viable ongoing enterprise, with a nice modern showroom and several hundred cars on the lot.

That is evil Kaptitalism in the People's Republic of Boulder - where's it's illegal to smoke a cigarette everywhere, but, marijuana (though technically illegal) is smoked openly and freely....

How dare someone try to make money in Boulder! Shame! Evil!

I never go to CU football games anymore, shop, eat, or even stop for gas if I have to go anywhere near that commune...errr...city....

19 posted on 08/22/2002 10:38:58 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: Kevin Kelley
This is one of those issues where no one thinks its a problem until someone comes after their home. Don't expect anyone to wake up soon.
20 posted on 08/22/2002 11:22:03 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Kevin Kelley
If you pay property taxes on your home/land, you don't own it.
22 posted on 08/22/2002 12:05:15 PM PDT by cruiserman
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To: Kevin Kelley
I just never go to the PRB anymore except the occasional TRT event. It's a snotty little upitty town.

BTW, welcome to FR.

24 posted on 08/22/2002 12:38:37 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: Kevin Kelley
Welcome, FReeper!
27 posted on 08/22/2002 2:45:40 PM PDT by paulklenk
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To: Kevin Kelley
Who DOES own their own property?

Property tax = Rent.

Who do you send your property taxes to? They're the ones who own the property. If you don't think so, what do you think will happen to your property if you don't pay your rent, er uh, property taxes? Answer: Eviction.
28 posted on 08/22/2002 3:43:33 PM PDT by beavus
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To: Kevin Kelley
Darn! I didn't know that Boulder is still a part of the US. Didn't they vote to become part of China? When they confiscate private property and distribute the wealth to all, Boulder will achieve their dream of total socialism. Total dips run that nice place.
29 posted on 08/22/2002 3:58:49 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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