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States Have Rights to Make Own Laws
The Sun News ^ | 16 August 2002

Posted on 08/20/2002 11:59:42 PM PDT by JediGirl

San Francisco leaders have turned heads recently by appearing publicly in a new type of transpolitical apparel. Members of the ultraliberal San Francisco City Council have suddenly taken on states' rights - normally a conservative stance - as their cause celebre.

Their opponent is none other than ultraconservative Attorney General John Ashcroft - normally a states' rights advocate - who is asserting the supremacy of the federal government.

At issue is the desire of California citizens to allow seriously ill patients to use medical marijuana to relieve their pain and discomfort. Advocates in San Francisco have proposed a program in which the city government would grow and distribute medical marijuana; a November ballot measure is planned. If San Francisco voters approve the measure, a major confrontation over states' rights will be triggered and may prove to be one of the most significant federalism cases in decades.

Federalism protects the states from the encroachment of the federal government, leaving the primary decisions of government to the individual states. It is a principle based on the idea that power is safest when held closest to the people. Under our system, each state is allowed to try what U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis once described as "novel social and economic experiments" in solving contemporary problems.

Federalism is often wrongly seen as a Republican or conservative position. Liberals have long considered the federal government to be more enlightened than the states.

Both conservatives and liberals now face a quandary. While liberals were once happy to see the federal government shape state policies in its own image, they are less enthusiastic now that the image is that of Ashcroft.

In California, advocates found themselves arguing for the use of medical marijuana to a man who does not smoke, drink or dance and who probably viewed the 1936 movie "Reefer Madness" as a medical documentary.

Liberals have suddenly discovered federalism and the right of state self-determination. While conservatives have long defended states' rights, they now face states that want to experiment with gay marriages, medical marijuana and assisted suicide.

Regardless of the merits of medical marijuana, Californians are rightfully aggrieved by the federal government telling them it alone can approve certain drugs for the use of the terminally ill. While growing pot in San Francisco may seem less inspiring than dumping tea in Boston, it is a defiant act that speaks of the right of citizens to self-determination.

If San Francisco draws this line in the constitutional sand, it will force conservatives on the Supreme Court to make a choice between their principles and their personal inclinations.

In 2001, the court considered a case involving a federal crackdown on a cooperative in Oakland, Calif., that distributed medical marijuana, consistent with state, but not federal, law. In a decision written by Justice Clarence Thomas, the Supreme Court rejected the cooperative's claim of medical necessity.

However, in a virtual invitation for challenge, the court expressly reserved the question of whether the federal government was violating federalism guarantees in its enforcement of drug laws over state medical marijuana measures.

The San Francisco program may finally answer that question.

Whatever societal risks are presented by terminally ill patients getting stoned, they pale in comparison with the political risks of yielding to federal authority in this area.

Yet perhaps this controversy will show liberals have much to gain from federalism, particularly in states like California, with a history of bold social programs and experimentation.

In the end, California may not be right about medical marijuana, but it has a right to be wrong.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: drugs; rights; states; statesrights; wod; wodlist
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1 posted on 08/20/2002 11:59:42 PM PDT by JediGirl
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To: WindMinstrel; realpatriot71; Dane; philman_36; Wolfie; SheLion; Hemingway's Ghost; vin-one; ...
bong
2 posted on 08/21/2002 12:00:12 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
There are Federal as well as State laws though.

I saw you wrote "BONG".

What dropped on your head? LOL
3 posted on 08/21/2002 12:02:03 AM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
I saw you wrote "BONG".

Didn't you hear? It's the latest trend!

4 posted on 08/21/2002 12:17:20 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: JediGirl
The feds justify marijuana prohibition by claiming that marijuana grown and sold intrastate cannot be differentiated from marijuana grown and sold interstate. It's way past time for someone to challenge that notion, which imo is laughable on its face. Maybe this will be the case that does so. Regardless, should be interesting to watch.
5 posted on 08/21/2002 12:29:48 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: JediGirl
Whatever societal risks are presented by terminally ill patients getting stoned, they pale in comparison with the political risks of yielding to federal authority in this area.

This should read: "whatever societal risks are presented by free citizens getting stoned, they pale in comparison with the political risks of yielding to federal authority in this area." Omissions like this are the main reason I don't like medical MJ initiatives: they brace their arguments on compassion for the sick vice justice for everyone.

Yet perhaps this controversy will show liberals have much to gain from federalism, particularly in states like California, with a history of bold social programs and experimentation.

I doubt it. Why would a real liberal give a whoot in hell about federalism? Their cash cow is the federal government.

6 posted on 08/21/2002 5:18:06 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: JediGirl
Whatever societal risks are presented by terminally ill patients getting stoned, they pale in comparison with the political risks of yielding to federal authority in this area.

This should read: "whatever societal risks are presented by free citizens getting stoned, they pale in comparison with the political risks of yielding to federal authority in this area." Omissions like this are the main reason I don't like medical MJ initiatives: they brace their arguments on compassion for the sick vice justice for everyone.

Yet perhaps this controversy will show liberals have much to gain from federalism, particularly in states like California, with a history of bold social programs and experimentation.

I doubt it. Why would a real liberal give a whoot in hell about federalism? Their cash cow is the federal government.

7 posted on 08/21/2002 5:18:43 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: JediGirl
Whatever societal risks are presented by terminally ill patients getting stoned, they pale in comparison with the political risks of yielding to federal authority in this area.

This should read: "whatever societal risks are presented by free citizens getting stoned, they pale in comparison with the political risks of yielding to federal authority in this area." Omissions like this are the main reason I don't like medical MJ initiatives: they brace their arguments on compassion for the sick vice justice for everyone.

Yet perhaps this controversy will show liberals have much to gain from federalism, particularly in states like California, with a history of bold social programs and experimentation.

I doubt it. Why would a real liberal give a whoot in hell about federalism? Their cash cow is the federal government.

8 posted on 08/21/2002 5:19:10 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Chinks in the armor. Chinks are chinks.
Goliath had a helmet of brass (1 Sam 17:5), but David hit him right in the forehead anyway (1 Sam 17:49).
9 posted on 08/21/2002 5:33:51 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: JediGirl
thanks for the bong, (how'd the waxing go, ouch Ha ha ha)

and tell A CA guy to get a clue, ping's are for non-WOD threads only.

Bong's for any WOD thread to the good guys.....

tick tock tick tock......
10 posted on 08/21/2002 5:49:21 AM PDT by vin-one
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To: vin-one; JediGirl; *Wod_list
just checked the WOD threads looks like it's going to be a busy day.....

fortunately my morning meeting was canceled.......
11 posted on 08/21/2002 5:51:24 AM PDT by vin-one
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To: vin-one
A CA Guy is certainly not one of the good guys on this issue.
12 posted on 08/21/2002 5:58:23 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: philman_36
Chinks in the armor. Chinks are chinks. Goliath had a helmet of brass (1 Sam 17:5), but David hit him right in the forehead anyway (1 Sam 17:49).

I hear you.

13 posted on 08/21/2002 5:59:22 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: JediGirl
Having a right and being able to stand up for it are two different things. Are people prepared to go to war-literally, if necessary- with the federal government to exercises that right? If they are not willing to do that, then their right is already lost. Any right you won't die for is already lost...

Since California is well on the way to confiscating all guns, it's going to be pretty hard to do, even if people decided they were willing to rebel.

14 posted on 08/21/2002 6:00:50 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Oh I know all about him, just trying to confuse the JBT a little,

It doesn't take much....
15 posted on 08/21/2002 6:10:14 AM PDT by vin-one
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To: JediGirl

Oh, NOW it's ok to pull out the 10th Amendment and banter it about.

But when Conservative issues like School Bussing, School Vouchers, the teaching of evolution and abortion is discussed it is not? Jeeze. Any excuse serves a tyrant. You can't have it both ways. The only political party that does things that way are called NAZIs.

Face it, you Left Leaning Socialists, who disguised in the cloak of "Democrats", are really racist hate-filled and power-driven Nazi's.


16 posted on 08/21/2002 8:05:34 AM PDT by vannrox
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Right. Teaching evolution is part of a science curriculum. Teaching the so-called Good Book as science isn't exactly sound science so I'm not sure what your point is. Abortion? Hell, I think that should be up to individual states to decide whether or not to keep it.
17 posted on 08/21/2002 8:09:53 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: billbears; Constitution Day; 4ConservativeJustices; Twodees; ppaul; lentulusgracchus; one2many; ...
Bump for State's Rights - this is an interesting read.
18 posted on 08/21/2002 8:11:37 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Bump for State's Rights - this is an interesting read.

Of course it is. Liberals want to exercise "states" rights only when it suits THEIR goals.

The 9th and 10th are there for a reason - not just to be window dressing.

19 posted on 08/21/2002 8:27:53 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: JediGirl
What do you know about "Good science" Jedigirl? Would you know good science when you see it or are you relying on what the government tells you is good?

20 posted on 08/21/2002 8:42:23 AM PDT by Khepera
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