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Study: Power Lines Probably Risky
Wired.com ^ | 8/19/02 | Paul Boutin

Posted on 08/19/2002 4:44:14 PM PDT by GeneD

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:09:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The final report of a contested eight-year, $7 million study soon to be released by the California Department of Health Services may be the most credible statement yet on the connection between electric power lines and a variety of health problems.


(Excerpt) Read more at wired.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calpowercrisis; cancer; electriclines; leukemia; lougehrigdisease; miscarriages

1 posted on 08/19/2002 4:44:14 PM PDT by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Junk science, the indispensible tool for envirowhackos and greedy plaintiffs attorneys.
2 posted on 08/19/2002 4:48:06 PM PDT by HassanBenSobar
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To: GeneD
"No one can say this thing is settled. But what they're saying is that after all this time, they think there's something there."

That's what I say when my toilet won't flush and water overflows onto the floor.

Where is the cause/effect proof?

3 posted on 08/19/2002 4:51:28 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: HassanBenSobar
The solution to this is to take down all high voltage lines running into California. Then the enviro wackos will be very happy with just how dark it can get at night.
4 posted on 08/19/2002 4:58:48 PM PDT by Lokibob
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To: Lokibob
Ahhh, but that's just the beginning, you see, because everything that uses electricity is harmful, and must be prohibited...

I wonder if one of the doctors who believed this nonsense was named 'Kaczinski'.

5 posted on 08/19/2002 5:01:49 PM PDT by HassanBenSobar
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To: GeneD
Long before the web, I read a study of EMF effects on cable splicers- the guys who handle high-voltage, live cable, with insanely high ( can't recall the figures ) levels of gauss- the strength of the magnetic field.

They had no higher incidence of disease than the general population they were compared to.

6 posted on 08/19/2002 5:14:28 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: GeneD
...estimating that a $5 billion investment to reduce EMFs from distribution lines running to homes and businesses would save a thousand lives over the 35-year lifetime of the equipment.

If there is a connection, let's see: $5 billion for 1000 people divided by 35 years - that's 28 lives per year and $5 million spent per life saved. Ah.....

7 posted on 08/19/2002 5:30:36 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I'd pay $5 million for my life. :)
8 posted on 08/19/2002 5:35:00 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: backhoe
I live right underneath the high voltage transmission lines running across the San Fernando Valley, and I've always thought this stuff was bunk.
9 posted on 08/19/2002 5:37:42 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; *calpowercrisis
more nonsense for the archives
10 posted on 08/19/2002 5:39:08 PM PDT by randita
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To: GeneD
"No one can say this thing is settled. But what they're saying is that after all this time, they think there's something there."

What they mean is:
"No one can dare say this thing is settled. For if they do then years of future work and millions of future dollars would be unnecessary.

So they'll always say "they think there's something there." To keep the work and the dollars flowing.

These are the same like minds that "think" SUV's are destroying the planet and windmill farms can cause changes in weather patterns.

11 posted on 08/19/2002 5:39:27 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: Argus
I sure wish I could recall more details- it was in the WSJ, early 1990's, I think, and they checked for leukemia and several other cancers, as well as nervous system diseases.

Don't forget, electrical phenomena is an inverse square law obeyer-- you go twice as far away, you see a 2 X 2 reduction in field strength. The cable splicers were chosen because they work immersed in electrical and magnetic energy.

12 posted on 08/19/2002 5:43:35 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Argus
I live right underneath the high voltage transmission lines running across the San Fernando Valley, and I've always thought this stuff was bunk. he said glowingly.
13 posted on 08/19/2002 5:47:25 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: GeneD
"This is a health department," Slesin said. "Most of the other people working in this area are more tied into the electric utility industry. When the health people get involved, their objectives are health, not to worry about economic impact.

Here's the deal, Stupid Cupid: you can take the aspirin, avoid the heart attack, and risk stomach trouble, or not. For those needing a translation, if Mr. Public Health is worried about electric problems messing up his health, stay away from electricity. Of course to do that, you need to give up the bennies of current.

14 posted on 08/19/2002 5:52:40 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: GeneD
While acknowledging the possibility there may be no connection between EMFs and any of the various illnesses, all three estimated the probability of a cause-and-effect relationship at above 50 percent for the four medical problems listed above.

For the tort lawyer, it just doesn't get any sweeter than that. Proof positive somebody (preferably somebody with deep pockets) has gotta pay.

15 posted on 08/19/2002 5:56:09 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: GeneD
B.S.P.H.&D.
16 posted on 08/19/2002 6:04:44 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Lokibob
Dewire the house.
17 posted on 08/19/2002 6:41:03 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: TightSqueeze; backhoe
Thanks for the input. My kids are rather tall and, uh, otherworldly. And my dogs drink out of the pool all day long.
18 posted on 08/20/2002 11:30:08 AM PDT by Argus
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To: laredo44
Where I studied statistics, estimates of probability had to reach 95 percent to be considered significant.

Missing from all this mumbo-jumbo is an estimate of the number of people affected and the quantities of EMF energy they were exposed to. Harmful poisons, whether chemical or radiation based, always have a dose-related effect. So where are the charts showing the dose relationship?

19 posted on 08/20/2002 11:41:35 AM PDT by js1138
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