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So will the Apple fire become the new Biscuit Fire with thousands of acres burning with no way to get to the Green Jihadist piles of dead and dying trees since there are no roads to much of this area on fire?

Justshe will have to stay safe and keep us informed as this fire is apparently close to her.

1 posted on 08/18/2002 8:46:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: justshe; Granof8; AuntB; Archie Bunker on steroids; wanderin; Salvation; dixiechick2000; blackie; ..
Oregon is still burning.

Got reports of bad smoke in Klamath Falls last night from Archie and Edith.

Stay safe and let us know what is happening in your area.

The new Apple Fire seems to be following the script of how the Kalmiopsis Fire burnt for a couple of weeks before it went nuclear and came close to taking out Cave Junction and other towns in the Illinois Valley. Are we seeing a repeat buildup of a major fire in another crown jewel area of Oregon?
2 posted on 08/18/2002 8:52:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: AAABEST; sauropod; countrydummy; BOBTHENAILER; Tailgunner Joe
This if for our allies against the Criminally Insane Green Jihadists who would destroy America with fire and insane laws.

The massive Biscuit Fire, the former Florence fire is still burning and will burn until the fall/winter rains come.

The newest fire, the Apple fire, east of Glide, Oregon which is east of Roseburg, Oregon on I5 north of Grants Pass is starting to look very ugly with no containment.

Please let your friends be aware that Oregon is a prime example of what the Criminally Insane Green Jihadists/Terrorists can do to a state when they control it.

The Criminally Insane Green Jihadists/Terrorists have a deadly choke hold on the people of Oregon and could end up rurally cleansing most innocent people living outside the major cities. This is what can happen to your states if the Criminally Insane Green Jihadists/Terrorists gain control of your state.

The State of Oregon is a deadly/evil and vast lab experiment of the Criminally Insane Green Jihadists/Terrorists. The lab, the rural part of Oregon is burning up while they fiddle around trying to hug trees and cause more fires with their anti America/American tree agendas.
4 posted on 08/18/2002 9:13:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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The latest combo map of the fire from data on the 17th of August.

The Red Spots are less than yesterday. They are still there and closer to Agness and the other small communities north of what used to be the Kalmiopsis Wilderness.


5 posted on 08/18/2002 9:18:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: EBUCK; glock rocks
Good morning and a special ping to you two.
7 posted on 08/18/2002 9:31:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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This is a KGW report on the fire as it came close to Agness, yesterday:

'The Beast': Town Faces Fire
08/18/2002

By JOHN ENDERS, Associated Press Writer


AGNESS, Ore. -- Things had calmed down a bit along Oak Flat and the nearby town of Agness, a resort and fishing village on southern Oregon's Rogue River. Homeowners, told to evacuate Thursday, were watching the Biscuit fire, hoping for the best.


Then the fire exploded.


Within an hour Saturday afternoon, the northwest flank of the fire blew up, raising huge billowing white and brown plumes of smoke 20,000 to 30,000 feet into the air. The "thwop, thwop, thwop" of heavy-lift helicopters filled the normally placid skies above the river.

"Normally, it's pretty stress-free living," said Gayle Soule, owner of the Old Agness Store.

These days, stress is not unusual for those who live in the path of Oregon's Biscuit Fire, the largest wildfire in Oregon in a century and the largest fire burning in North America.

"When you go to sleep at night and you hear helicopters, and fire trucks..." she said.

By Saturday evening, the Biscuit Fire had burned 419,000 acres, and more than 6,500 people were fighting it, including 470 Canadians, 39 Australians and nine fire managers from New Zealand.

Burning since a lightning storm moved through the area July 13, the fire has had several names: Florence, Sour Biscuit, and Biscuit.

Some residents have begun calling it "the Beast." One L.A. reporter referred to it recently as a "sleeping dragon."

"We don't want to call it a beast," said fire information office Wayne Johnson. "Beast implies something bad. This isn't something bad, necessarily."

Fire ecologists say fire is a natural event, and is needed to keep America's forests healthy, especially wilderness. The fire has burned over much of the nearby Kalmiopsis Wilderness, and now it's threatening homes and businesses in Agness, Ilahe, Oak Flat, upper Pistol River, upper Chetco River, Cave Junction, O'Brien, Selma.

Across America, 24 major active fires were burning. More than 5.7 million acres have burned this summer, and the states of New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and Oregon have suffered the biggest wildfires in their history, according to fire information officer Peter D'Aquanni.


The Biscuit fire, because of its size and complexity, is divided into four divisions, with separate top-level "Type 1" command centers.


"I've never been on a fire where they've had four Type 1 management teams on it. It really is just a management feat managing the resources," D'Aquanni said.


Residents of the area stood by, waiting to see if they would have to abandon their homes to the flames over the weekend. About a dozen helicopters buzzed in the air overhead, dumping fire retardant and water.


A half mile up the road, 40-year old Shawn O'Connor rakes and gathers pine needles and other burnable materials from the land around her home. She's been doing it for three weeks.


"Nobody in our neighborhood is leaving" O'Connor said. "We're just kind of waiting to see."


But if the fire gets too close, she will grab her 13-year old son Shila and a neighbor and head out.


She and her neighbors are watching the fire "in a state of controlled hysteria," she said. They also watch the wind, which this afternoon has picked up, but is blowing upstream, away from their house. They wait. Sometimes wind is a friend; sometimes it's your worst adversary.


"When you feel the wind, you don't know whether to be glad or scared," O'Connor said.


"I can't blame the fire. It's just what happens. You pay your money, you takes your chances," said John Lighty, 68, who lives with his wife Merilee in a house on Oak Flat Road several miles from Agness.


Their home is one of two that are closest to the fire, which is burning toward them about a mile away, just around a bend in the Illinois River.


The house is older, and has shake wood roof and siding, a wood deck and dense trees and shrubs all around. One forester describes it "indefensible."


"If it's going to burn down," Merilee Lighty says, "I wish it'd hurry up and do it."



Now we learn that there are Fire Ecologists to go with their fellow Insane Green Jihadists:

"Fire ecologists say fire is a natural event, and is needed to keep America's forests healthy, especially wilderness. The fire has burned over much of the nearby Kalmiopsis Wilderness, and now it's threatening homes and businesses in Agness, Ilahe, Oak Flat, upper Pistol River, upper Chetco River, Cave Junction, O'Brien, Selma."

How about throwing these Fire Ecologists in the path of the still burning fire with a hoedad and a canteen of water. Then tell them, that they will be picked up this fall/winter when the fire goes out due to the fall/winter rains. If they burn up, just remember that in their Druid Religion, fire is good!

This paragraph proves my thesis that the Green Jihadists are Criminally insane. They even have Fire Ecologists


9 posted on 08/18/2002 9:46:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Grampa...Any idea what portions of these fires that the government agencies continue to let burn because they can get more money for burnt, rural cleansed areas, than to have us "Real Americans" who might try to earn a nickel, than to bid for pennies from "Uncle Sam"?
13 posted on 08/18/2002 10:06:47 AM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Grampa Dave
We'll be able to use this title until the 2nd week of rains.
16 posted on 08/18/2002 10:35:55 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Grampa Dave
Just think how much more affordable housing would be available, if not for each summers Greens sponsored, unmanagable wild fires. Too bad the good for nothing Green types aren't burning instead of the valuable trees.
30 posted on 08/18/2002 5:59:53 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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