Posted on 08/13/2002 3:18:01 PM PDT by snopercod
Edited on 04/13/2004 3:29:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Every summer for the past 25 years, New Zealand native Maggie Anderson and her American husband have visited their family in Portola Valley.
But never before had her visit begun in handcuffs and humiliation.
Upon landing at Los Angeles International Airport at 11 a.m on July 24, Anderson -- a former flight attendant who had flown in and out of U.S. airports hundreds of times -- was questioned and arrested by federal immigration agents.
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There are many things that can be blamed on Clinton. This airport security fiasco is not one of them.
ML/NJ
Do you have any idea? Have you gone to Israel recently, or at all
Do you have any idea about anything you've commented about on this thread? About the only thing you seem to have gotten right was your comment on your ID pages which says, "I'm not a really educated man."
The Israelis don't waste their time on women from New Zeeland. They don't even waste much time on middle-aged American males who honestly tell them they didn't pack all their own bags. And no, they didn't make me open them either. (This was last summer about midway between the Dophinarium bombing and the Sbarro bombing.)
The Isrealis know what they are doing. We haven't a clue.
ML/NJ
Amen. If people quit flying, the airlines would put the heat on the feds to quit this stuff.
A nation of sheep.
I'm sure your a favorite caller to alot of radio shows. Hell man record it and listen to it over and over and really begin to think your the only opinion that matters, that should feel good.
BTW, I grew up overseas and traveled to many points in the world from the eighth grade on, most times alone. I've been through customs plenty, searched, researched and called into alot of little rooms off to the side to be questioned, though never strip searched. I was detained entering Saigon for over an hour because they thought I was an AWOL GI trying to get out, even though I was only in the 10th grade. They put me in the back of a Deuce and a half and took me to a security shack to talk with an American, that let me go fairly quickly.
Once in Manila while Marcos was around I was kept overnight because a cab I was in hit a kid while driving through unlit slums. Finally school officials found out and came and got me. Go call some radio show and spew your nonsense somewhere else. Mistakes will be made at airports againgI'm sure but at least its getting better.
So I guess the bottom line is that you haven't been to Israel?
But you wrote about their security as if you had. Someone (me) who has been there recently sets the record straight, and you call it a "personal assualt."
In fact, the Israeli setup, with intelligent screeners who do profile, and who do exercise judgment, is what some of us want to see here, but I guess the unwashed here in the USA just won't have it.
We're doomed.
ML/NJ
Yep, they'll spend hundreds of millions of our taxpayer dollars "dotting all the i's and crossing all the t's", but they won't do something very efficient, proven and cost effective: profiling.
So they're very concerned about making mistakes. I'd say they already have made a very huge mistake, and it is a mistake of omission, not commission.
It used to be but not anymore. I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Her experience seems like a normal trip on any airline right now. (\sarcasm)It is nice to see an airline employee (former or not) get the same treatment as the passengers.
Fly only as a last resort. 27+ years of flying world wide has taught me the only good airline employee or security agent is an unemployed one.
If you need to get somewhere in a short period of time, depending upon the distance, by air is NOT the way to go. If you deal with a NON-Hub airport like I do, most cities are at least 1 connection away. Combine the wait for "security" with the connection, assuming you make it, then the next leg, then the rental car, then the drive to your finial destination and in many cases you would be better off to drive. I know I have done it and continue to do it.
On a recent trip from Buffalo to Midland MI, to Chicago, to St. Cloud, to Detroit then back to Buffalo, in one week, I made the trip in less time than had I flown. When I was done in one location, I immediately was on the road to the next location and did not have to wait in the airport for some sub-human to declare me innocent enough to fly then wait for the airline schedule to the next city.
Note to the airlines and the FU#$%$#g feds:You want me to fly again (up to 30 times a year) then treat me like I am innocent until proven guilty. Treat me like a customer not an interruption in your day. Tell me the truth about delays. Search the rag heads and not the 80 year olds and 2 year olds. It is not profiling you stupid idiots it is looking for identifiable suspects. Until then, you can keep your $900 fares from Buffalo to Chicago and insert them where security will not find them.
Going after visa violations is fine with me, but if they're gonna get this tough with folks that bothered to apply for entry, in obvious good faith, wouldn't it be an even better idea to go after those who don't even have a visa to violate?
You sound like a voice in the wilderness. So far I'm idiotic, stupid, uneducated, a liar, and my favorite personal attack of the day ...."you sir are a cad, good day".
Likewise, all the trillion$ spent on "defense" and intelligence-gathering since WWII didn't stop 19 Third-World radicals armed with boxcutters and the will to succeed.
She was a victim sacrificed on the alter of Political Correctness.
For every few arabs we half-heartedly search, at least one white middle-aged obvious non-offender has to get buggered or else it's 'not fair to minorities.'
Besides, it's against a Moose-limbs religion to take off their headress, but it's not against any kiwi religion to take off a sports bra.
You can hardly imagine my joy over our 'homeland security' when I watch some sweaty nog in a dirty nightshirt and tablecloth on their head shuffle through security being patted down by another sweaty nog in a uniform while I show my military ID and get gate-raped to the point of taking off my cowboy boots, belt and untucking my shirt....
DB, I think this is what people are miffed about.
It's the attitude that we're going to secure the airports from non-Middle Eastern appearing men and women. The attitude that strip searching a grandmother from Boise is going to guarantee that safety, all the while they are scared of the PC police if they focus on those they should-----and yes, that is people of Middle East descent.
New Zealanders, an elderly man or woman, they didn't ram a plane into the WTC on 9-11.
So these folks harrass politically correct targets (ie white westerners), they don't offend the liberal press, and at the same time it appears they are doing their job.
...and it's nonsense. They should be profiling. These same people threaten a new jihad every day, and for some reason, we can't bring ourselves to call a spade a spade, and say that Arab looking fellow should be scrutinized more carefully at the airport.
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