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Fires Spread Plant Damage, Disease, Ore-gone Eco Terrorists's View of Fire Fighting
KGW TV/AP ^ | 10 August 2002 | GILLIAN FLACCUS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/11/2002 8:47:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave

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This should get your blood pumping!

Here we have in black and white, the Green Jihadists's agenda that plants, weeds and trees are more important than humans.

This is why when many fires are fought, they don't use bulldozers (remember that scene in the Colorado fires).

They just want confinement fire fighting if any fire fighting.

Neighbors of Atzet should send him some Lilly's to show how much they appreciate his preference for a damn lilly over their lives, their family's lives and their homes.

1 posted on 08/11/2002 8:47:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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fly-eating Cobra lily,

OMG not that! NOOOOO!! We must save it at all costs for the children, even if it means death to their own parents < /obvious sarcasm I hope>
2 posted on 08/11/2002 8:50:12 AM PDT by chance33_98
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pretty flowers make me happy ping

Jesus is coming back, and he is bringing a sword
3 posted on 08/11/2002 8:55:12 AM PDT by chance33_98
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Good morning, this is Grampa Dave's extended news on the biggest fire in Ore-gone up in ashes current history and how a Green Jihadist looks at a plant as more important than the lives/homes of his neighbors.
4 posted on 08/11/2002 8:56:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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This should get your blood boiling and should be d Green Jihadists and their agendas.
5 posted on 08/11/2002 9:00:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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Good morning!

If you didn't detest the Green Jihadists and their agendas that place plants and critters over humans, this article should just about do it for you.

Please ping those who feel like us about these al Qaeda Tree and Lilly Huggers.
6 posted on 08/11/2002 9:03:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: chance33_98
Thanks for your remarks and pings.

Doesn't this just take the first A$$ prize in this terrible fire, the biggest in Ore-gone up in Ashes fire this past 100 years.
7 posted on 08/11/2002 9:05:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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No real final word on the fire north of Napa.

Three years ago I had to use the weather satellite and phone calls to find out about one that burnt for days NEN of here.

We will have 2 dozen articles praising perversity (diversity), 1 dozen articles praising PC stuff, 1 dozen articles against President GW and an old out of date one on the fires in our local fishwrap.

My wife just confirmed this. I seldom read our local paper, she still wants it.
8 posted on 08/11/2002 9:12:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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They are not pro-nature, they are anti-human.

--Boris

9 posted on 08/11/2002 9:12:14 AM PDT by boris
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Not only is the Kalmiopsis black, there's not much local news either

1. more than 333,000 acres
2. community meetings at Agness and Brookings 7 p.m. Monday
3. no evacauations at this point
4. hot dry weather to continue
5. Oak Flat road closed to all but residents and firefighters.
10 posted on 08/11/2002 9:13:36 AM PDT by Granof8
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And if flames destroy infected cedars, ecologists will replant with recently developed trees that are resistant to the root rot. The trees, grown at a Forest Service research center near Eugene, have been available for about 15 years but because of a decline in logging there has been little opportunity to plant them in national forests, said Everett.

Some logging would have gone a long way to preventing cedar root rot. But no, instead the Green-freaks require that water used to stop the fire be treated with bleach first!!

INSANITY, INSANITY!!!

11 posted on 08/11/2002 9:29:24 AM PDT by CedarDave
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"There's always a concern about fires and what we do in terms of spreading offsite plants, or alien plants or exotic species," said Atzet.

He's concerned about fires and exotic species, yet he's upset about a fireline in a swamp!

More insanity!!!

12 posted on 08/11/2002 9:31:43 AM PDT by CedarDave
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ping
13 posted on 08/11/2002 9:37:49 AM PDT by madfly
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Index Bump
14 posted on 08/11/2002 9:42:10 AM PDT by Free the USA
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So Grampa, if the local fire fighters bulldoze, etc. and stop the fire before it reaches the protected/researched plants, what are the Greenidiots going to do... sue the local fire depts for putting out the fire?
15 posted on 08/11/2002 9:43:41 AM PDT by mia
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To: madfly
BTTT!!!!!
16 posted on 08/11/2002 9:47:16 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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flag
17 posted on 08/11/2002 9:47:50 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Grampa Dave
The tree huggers don't want the general population to know about anything that goes wrong. That could hurt their glorious reputation in Kalifornia.
18 posted on 08/11/2002 9:54:56 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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A few years ago the USFS gave a bone to the ORV crowd by letting them ride in the recreation area north of Hiway 199 near Gasquet Ca. Then they came up with the cedar rust thing and put so many restrictions on going there that no one rides there and the ORVers had given up other areas in nearby forest.
19 posted on 08/11/2002 10:19:39 AM PDT by tubebender
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There is a reasonable balance. In our Salmon River area about a decade ago, either out of area fire crews or helicopter loggers brought knapweed in from Idaho or Montana. So far, I believe we are the only area of CA that has it.

It is extremely invasive. It excretes a substance that kills any competing vegetation. Many of the noxious weeds do that. Many are also poisonous to livestock. If you haven't seen rangelands where this stuff has spread, it is a nightmare dead zone.

The enviros are hand pulling the weeds, because they don't want herbicides in their watershed. It is not going away and they have only slowed the spread.

In our early Salmon River fire this year, they washed vehicles coming in or out. After fighting the after effects of a decade ago from knapweed, I think that if time allows and human health, safety and property is not at immediate risk, such precautions can be in balance.

If they spread port orford root rot, they can lose a valuable resource (which I believe has been found to have medicinal uses.) If they spread sudden oak death, the oak forest resource will be decimated by disease, rather than fire.

This is not a black and white issue.
20 posted on 08/11/2002 10:44:23 AM PDT by marsh2
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