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Clinton Speech Calls Time Magazine Article Into Question
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Posted on 08/09/2002 5:16:15 AM PDT by Retired Chemist

NewsMax.com

Wednesday, Aug. 7, 2002

Clinton Audio Exclusive: Pre-Sept. 11 Bin Laden Strike Wouldn't Have Worked

Flatly contradicting Time magazine's claims this week that his administration turned over workable plans to capture or kill Osama bin Laden to the Bush White House, ex-President Clinton confessed earlier this year that his administration's plans had a "high probability" of failure.

Clinton's made the stunning admission during a February address to a New York business group, which, apparently, Time declined to cover.

But NewsMax.com was there.

As our exclusive audiotape of the Clinton speech makes clear, the ex-president decided not to implement his own administration's plans to attack al-Qaeda before 9-11 - not because of the impending presidential election (as Time claims) - but because he thought such an attack wouldn't work.

Since the audio is less than broadcast quality, NewsMax has transcribed Clinton's pertinent remarks below. Listen to the audio cut while reading along - and discover what the liberal press doesn't want you to know about Time's dubious report:

Remarks of Ex-President Bill Clinton to the Long Island Association Woodbury, N.Y. Feb. 15, 2002

Now, if you look back - in the hindsight of history, everybody's got 20/20 vision - the real issue is should we have attacked the al-Qaeda network in 1999 or in 2000 in Afghanistan.

Here's the problem. Before September 11 we would have had no support for it - no allied support and no basing rights. So we actually trained to do this. I actually trained people to do this. We trained people.

But in order to do it, we would have had to take them in on attack helicopters 900 miles from the nearest boat - maybe illegally violating the airspace of people if they wouldn't give us approval. And we would have had to do a refueling stop.

And we would have had to make the decision in advance that's the reverse of what President Bush made - and I agreed with what he did. They basically decided - this may be frustrating to you now that we don't have bin Laden. But the president had to decide after Sept. 11, which am I going to do first: just go after bin Laden or get rid of the Taliban?

He decided to get rid of the Taliban. I personally agree with that decision, although it may or may not have delayed the capture of bin Laden. Why?

Because, first of all the Taliban was the most reactionary government on earth and there was an inherent value in getting rid of them.

Secondly, they supported terrorism and we'd send a good signal to governments that if you support terrorism and they attack us in America, we will hold you responsible.

Thirdly, it enabled our soldiers and Marines and others to operate more safely in-country as they look for bin Laden and the other senior leadership, because we'd have had to have gone in there to just sort of clean out one area, try to establish a base camp and operate.

So for all those reasons the military recommended against it. There was a high probability that it wouldn't succeed.

Now I had one other option. I could have bombed or sent more missiles in. As far as we knew he never went back to his training camp. So the only place bin Laden ever went that we knew was occasionally he went to Khandahar where he always spent the night in a compound that had 200 women and children.

So I could have, on any given night, ordered an attack that I knew would kill 200 women and children that had less than a 50 percent chance of getting him.

Now, after he murdered 3,100 of our people and others who came to our country seeking their livelihood you may say, "Well, Mr. President, you should have killed those young women and children."

But at the time we didn't think he had the capacity to do that. And no one thought that I should do that. Although I take full responsibility for it. You need to know that those are the two options I had. And there was less than a 50/50 chance that the intelligence was right that on this particular night he was in Afghanistan.

Now, we did do a lot of things. We tried to get the Pakistanis to go get him. They could have done it and they wouldn't. They changed governments at the time from Mr. Sharif to President Musharraf. And we tried to get others to do it. We had a standing contract between the CIA and some groups in Afghanistan authorizing them and paying them if they should be successful in arresting (unintelligible).

So I tried hard to - I always thought this guy was a big problem. And apparently the options I had were the options that the President and Vice President Cheney and Secretary Powell and all the people that were involved in the Gulf War thought that they had, too, during the first eight months that they were there - until Sept. 11 changed everything.

But I did the best I could with it and I do not believe, based on what options were available to me, that I could have done any more than I did. Obviously, nobody has been successful. I tried a lot of different ways to get bin Laden 'cause I always thought he was a very dangerous man. He's (unintelligible), he's bold and he's deadly.

But I think it's very important that the Bush administration do what they're doing to keep the soldiers over there to keep chasing him. But I know - like I said - I know it might be frustrating to you. But it's still better for bin Laden to worry every day more about whether he's going to see the sun come up in the morning than whether he's going to drop a bomb, another bomb somewhere in the U.S. or in Europe or on some other innocent civilians.

Reproduced with the permission of NewsMax.com. All rights reserved.

Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics: NewsMax Scoops Al-Qaeda Bush Administration War on Terrorism

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KEYWORDS: billclinton; terroristplan; timemagazine
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Interesting!
1 posted on 08/09/2002 5:16:15 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Retired Chemist
this is the problem with liars you can never tell which story is true.
2 posted on 08/09/2002 5:18:36 AM PDT by linn37
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To: Retired Chemist
Time bends over and grabs its ankles for Bubba again. And gets caught. Again. Are those folks dumber than a box o' rocks, or what??
3 posted on 08/09/2002 5:19:40 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Retired Chemist
Posted two days ago, here.......
4 posted on 08/09/2002 5:22:45 AM PDT by RedWing9
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To: Retired Chemist
Saw Carl Limbacher (sp?) on Fox & Friends just a little while ago and he played the audio tape of this.

Clinton is scrambling like a cat covering s**t. Truth is, he's not nearly as good at it as the fawning leftist media would have you believe.

In point of fact, he fairly sucks at it.

5 posted on 08/09/2002 5:23:46 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: mewzilla
Liberals think they'd never get caught in a lie. They might have gotten away with it once but now thanks to conservative websites on the Internet those days are long gone. Time can cover for Bubba but it can't give him greatness he never had.
6 posted on 08/09/2002 5:25:25 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
The scary thing is that, if only for the sake of its stockholders, you'd think the idiots running this rag would see downside of getting caught shilling for Bubba. Unbelievable. They must have a journalistic deathwish.
7 posted on 08/09/2002 5:31:44 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
The sad thing is that half our country is comprised of "folks dumber than a box o' rocks" - shoot, they voted for Al Gore, the king of Estee Lauder. They are likely to believe what they've read in Time and repeated by the alphabet networks as the gospel truth.
8 posted on 08/09/2002 5:35:16 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Retired Chemist
Here the best (and most telling) line of the transcript:

I actually trained people to do this. We trained people.

Really?! He trained them?! Oh, I see he quickly corrected himself adding the we. Of course, this is the principle problem with this a$$clown: he puts himself before others...plain and simple.

9 posted on 08/09/2002 5:38:19 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: Quilla
If Time's circulation figs are still declining, I don't think they're going to be able to rely on the stupid to keep them in print for much longer.
10 posted on 08/09/2002 5:38:21 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Retired Chemist
This is just dripping with classic Clintonian spin ...

Excuse making:

Here's the problem. Before September 11 we would have had no support for it - no allied support and no basing rights.

Self-puffery and credit-taking:

I actually trained people to do this.

More excuse-making:

But in order to do it, we would have had to take them in on attack helicopters 900 miles from the nearest boat - maybe illegally violating the airspace of people if they wouldn't give us approval. And we would have had to do a refueling stop.

Back-handed slap at his opponent softened by fake agreement with him:

And we would have had to make the decision in advance that's the reverse of what President Bush made - and I agreed with what he did.

Again:

He decided to get rid of the Taliban. I personally agree with that decision, although it may or may not have delayed the capture of bin Laden.

Blaming someone else for the decision:

So for all those reasons the military recommended against it.

Talk about the children:

So the only place bin Laden ever went that we knew was occasionally he went to Khandahar where he always spent the night in a compound that had 200 women and children.

Blaming others but then supposedly at the same time taking "responsibility" anyway:

And no one thought that I should do that. Although I take full responsibility for it.

Taking credit for "accomplishments" even when there was no success:

Now, we did do a lot of things. We tried to get the Pakistanis to go get him...And we tried to get others to do it.

It's all about ME:

So I tried hard to - I always thought this guy was a big problem.

Finally, another back-handed slap at his successors:

And apparently the options I had were the options that the President and Vice President Cheney and Secretary Powell and all the people that were involved in the Gulf War thought that they had, too, during the first eight months that they were there - until Sept. 11 changed everything.

Notice the double-whammy there of mentioning the Gulf War (more than 10 years in the past!) and the fact that "they didn't do anything for eight months either".

Oh, and one more really patronizing thing, and this is really important. It's what I think that matters here:

But I think it's very important that the Bush administration do what they're doing to keep the soldiers over there to keep chasing him. But I know - like I said - I know it might be frustrating to you. But it's still better for bin Laden to worry every day more about whether he's going to see the sun come up in the morning than whether he's going to drop a bomb, another bomb somewhere in the U.S. or in Europe or on some other innocent civilians.

What a self-absorbed idiot.

11 posted on 08/09/2002 5:46:18 AM PDT by benjaminthomas
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To: benjaminthomas
Very nice exegesis.
12 posted on 08/09/2002 5:51:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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To: benjaminthomas
Well, y'know he spared Osama's ass "for the children." That's believable. V's wife.
13 posted on 08/09/2002 5:51:33 AM PDT by ventana
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To: ventana
It sounds just a liberal. Its all for the children.
14 posted on 08/09/2002 5:52:11 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: benjaminthomas
Excellent!
15 posted on 08/09/2002 6:04:17 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: Retired Chemist
Yeah, Clinton and the other Rats just make it up as they go along, but they can get away with it because the media, i.e., the PR division of the Rat Party, never analyzes any discrepancies.
16 posted on 08/09/2002 6:13:18 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Retired Chemist
bump
17 posted on 08/09/2002 6:13:35 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: mewzilla
If doctors and dentist ended their subscription to Time and Newsweek the magazines would be out of business within the year.
18 posted on 08/09/2002 6:33:44 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: Retired Chemist
The Leftist media's reply to this...

"Bush was given plans that had a high probability for failure to attack Al Qaeda by President Clinton!"

19 posted on 08/09/2002 7:34:34 AM PDT by Frank Grimes
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To: Retired Chemist
I actually trained people to do this.

“Huh-uh. Now listen soldiers. Once ya got yer enemy from behind, ya grab him across the shoulders with yer left arm, then with yer right arm, ya grab his chin and snap it like so. If this happens to be a lady-soldier, this is a real good time to grab her boob and give it a nice squeeze. Yer killin’ her anyway, so she can’t go cryin’ to the press like that Willey chick did ta me…”

20 posted on 08/09/2002 7:39:19 AM PDT by dead
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