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S&P reduces rating for CA projects to "JUNK" status
Reuters ^ | 8/7/2002

Posted on 08/07/2002 9:23:14 PM PDT by SierraWasp

Here's the link:poke this!

Somebody please post this as I always screw it up.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; calpowercrisis; junk; powercrisis; sce; sp
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What's the deal here? I need some perceptions and opinions on this! Is So. Cal Edison gonna go down after all? Is GANG-GREEN gonna get Davis to buy SCE cheaper after it's bankrupt so's they can keep us humans offa the huge properties of SCE in the end?
1 posted on 08/07/2002 9:23:14 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; snopercod; Carry_Okie; Dog Gone; Robert357; Grampa Dave
One Pingy Dingy, Two Pingy Dingy...
2 posted on 08/07/2002 9:25:27 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: SierraWasp
But, But, But, how will they ever re-charge their electric cars?????
3 posted on 08/07/2002 9:29:37 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
"But, But, But, how will they ever re-charge their electric cars?????"

Why... That's Easy!!! They'll hook yer screen name up to the grid, right???

4 posted on 08/07/2002 9:35:51 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: SierraWasp
We should radiate Davis and use him for energy. For the first time he could become useful! LOL
5 posted on 08/07/2002 9:37:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: SierraWasp
Congrats to all you Commiefornians. You now have a state with a junk governor, junk utilities, junk mayors, and Hollyweird. I'm so relieved all we have here in FL is Janet Reno's dance party and the occassional hurricane. Makes me feel better about our problems.
6 posted on 08/07/2002 9:49:17 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: SierraWasp
Hi Waspersin,

I'm in Utah right now. It's saner here (at least most of it).

Maybe Bray Dayfist wants to offer Bill Simon a good deal on some bonds?
7 posted on 08/07/2002 9:50:16 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: SierraWasp
Reuters thinks that the word "impact" is a verb. It's really annoying to try to read an article written by an illiterate.
8 posted on 08/07/2002 9:51:59 PM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Neanderthal
Reuters thinks that the word "impact" is a verb. It's really annoying to try to read an article written by an illiterate.

im-pact

v.t. 5) to drive or press closely or firmly into simething; pack in.

6) to fill up; congest; throng

7) to collide with; strike forcefully

v.i. 8) to have impact or make contact forefully

9 posted on 08/07/2002 9:59:44 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: SierraWasp
Wednesday August 7, 6:06 pm Eastern Time, Reuters Company News

S&P cuts California power projects to junk status



LOS ANGELES, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Standard & Poor's on Wednesday cut the ratings of some power projects that supply Southern California Edison to "junk" status, citing uncertainty about the utility's own longer-term credit standing.

The rating agency noted improvements in the credit strength of the Rosemead, California-based utility, a unit of Edison International (NYSE:EIX - News), but said it was "still impossible to determine SCE's long-term credit-worthiness."

SCE, which a year ago was on the brink of bankruptcy, is currently rated BB by Standard and Poor's, a non-investment or junk rating. The projects were cut to BB from BBB-minus, the lowest investment grade.

"The projects really derive their credit from SCE," Standard and Poor's analyst Peter Rigby told Reuters, noting they rely heavily on the utility for capacity payments.

In March, Standard and Poor's raised the utility's corporate credit rating to BB from D after it paid $4.8 billion to creditors, clearing much of the debt it incurred at the height of the state's power crisis last year.

The downgrade impacted Edison Mission Energy Funding Corp., a finance vehicle for Edison Mission Energy's Big Four co-generation projects in California.

Edison Mission Energy (EME) is a merchant power plant owning unit of Edison International. The cut did not impact EME's main rating, which remained low investment grade.

"Edison Mission Energy Funding is an entity down the family tree from Edison Mission Energy. It is a one project company and nothing is triggered here by a drop to BB," Edison International Chief Financial Officer Ted Craver told Reuters.

Such a move could trigger the accelerated repayments of some company debt and force the company to post collateral on some trading positions.

Edison Mission Energy itself, however, continues to be rated BBB-minus, the lowest investment grade, S&P said.

In March, Standard and Poor's raised SCE's corporate credit rating to BB from D after it paid $4.8 billion to creditors, clearing much of the debt it incurred at the height of the state's power crisis last year.

OTHER PROJECTS CUT

Other projects that saw their ratings cut on Wednesday were Salton Sea Financing Corp. and FPL Energy Caithness Funding Corp., both of which supply power to SCE but are otherwise unaffiliated with Edison International.

Standard and Poor's noted in its statement that a deal struck between SCE and state regulators "removes the immediate but not the long-term threat of a bankruptcy filing."

The pact allows the utility to collect $3.6 billion in past power purchases costs from customers. It was initially forbidden from fully passing on those costs due to a price freeze imposed under California's power deregulation.

The company said earlier that as of June 30 it had collected $2.0 billion of the $3.6 billion.

Craver said Standard and Poor's concerns appeared related to the absence of clear rules about how the utility will recover its power purchase costs in the future.

"They are not as concerned about past under-recovery and more focused on the utility getting good rules relating to (future) procurement," he said.

The California Department of Water Resources currently buys power for the state's three investor owned utilities after skyrocketing prices in 2000 and early 2001 resulted in the state's largest utility, PG&E Corp. (NYSE:PCG - News) unit Pacific Gas & Electric filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

California wants its utilities to resume buying power for their customers when they regain credit-worthiness. The rules under which that would happen, however, are not yet agreed.

Craver said that if Calif. Gov. Gray Davis signs Assembly Bill 57, which has been passed by state lawmakers, "it would be constructive from a credit standpoint."

The bill deals with the rules under which the utilities would return to buying power. A key feature is the elimination of "after-the-fact" reasonableness reviews and mechanisms that seek to ensure the "timely" recovery of utility costs through customer rates.

Edison International shares closed up 12 cents or one percent at $11.90 on the New York Stock Exchange on Wednesday.

10 posted on 08/07/2002 10:01:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: SierraWasp; Dog Gone; Ernest_at_the_Beach; RonDog; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; Shermy
I'm waiting for S&P to rate all Kalifornia Bonds to pay for Electricity used by whining and free loading socialists/communists last year as a Zulu ranking or a Zero. Of course those whining and free loading socialists/communists are the bulk of the sheeple who vote for the Rats in every Kali election at least twice.

Then, the most crooked Rat in politics today will force his pet lap dog, Cal Pers to buy up these bonds.

Notice we haven't heard a single word about these upcoming porking junkers in weeks.

The un noticed kiss of death for bad bonds either Edison or Kali came out last month. These are the 4 efunds of bonds that are sold on the stock exchange like stocks. (SHY, ITF, TLT and LQD by Goldman Sachs, the latter for the top corporate bonds. If you ain't in LQD, your bonds be junk.

With all that has happened on Wall Street re exposure of Rat practices and Arthur Andersen accounting, these funds represent the beginning of the end of the Wizards of Oz, the bond guys, playing games behind the screen with funds. Transparency instead of the bond mumble jumble will start to take over. The mumble jumble artists will go to jail and help clean Martha's pans and pots if they try to present an Edison bond or a Kali bond as a good deal in the new market.
11 posted on 08/07/2002 10:15:13 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; snopercod; Dog Gone; randita; Robert357; *calpowercrisis; *calgov2002; ...
Way to go Davis!

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12 posted on 08/07/2002 10:17:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave
The mumble jumble artists will go to jail and help clean Martha's pans and pots if they try to present an Edison bond or a Kali bond as a good deal in the new market.

LOL! The only bonds these people will be buying will be bail bonds!

The irony is sweet here. Thanks to the "recession", power prices are down or flat in the rest of the US. But California will be paying premium prices for the next twenty years.

I haven't heard anything on the Kali bonds since the beginning of July.

13 posted on 08/08/2002 2:57:52 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Grampa Dave
"The mumble jumble artists will go to jail and help clean Martha's pans and pots if they try to present an Edison bond or a Kali bond as a good deal in the new market."

IMHO, Martha's a 'saint' compared to Hillary, but apparently not 'anointed'. Some 'insiders' get all the breaks.

14 posted on 08/08/2002 6:53:38 AM PDT by d14truth
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To: SierraWasp; Grampa Dave
Using nouns as adjectives--

'GRAVE' Davis buries California.

15 posted on 08/08/2002 6:56:05 AM PDT by d14truth
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To: d14truth
I like this:

'GRAVE' Davis buries California.

16 posted on 08/08/2002 8:07:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: SierraWasp
This actually may not be good news. When Michael Milken got ahold of it, MCI had "junk" status and several Argintinian bonds had "AAA" status. The term is meaningless, as the market usually heavily weights itself to EXISTING companies as opposed to dynamic start-ups. But in CA's case, the rating is probably accurate.
17 posted on 08/08/2002 8:28:22 AM PDT by LS
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To: SierraWasp
What I found interesting about the S&P story is that it implies that California government (CPUC and DWR) are not going to allow SC&E the kind of cash flow it needs to remain out of bankruptcy. That is that DWR buying on behalf of SCE, the Cal ISO in running the power system, and the CPUC in setting or should I say capping SCE rates are going to keep squeezing SCE so that the financial health of that company remains in question.

My feeling is that this is an election year, and that there is no way that Davis, wants to make electric power rates a campaign issue. PG&E has gone into bankruptcy and the lights have remained on in San Francisco, so the feal of bleeding to death another utility is not too frightening to the governmental wonks in Davis employ. That also means that all the power projects that PG&E and SCE have contracts to and those contracts were used to back up financing are now in question. Perhaps this is an attempt at a "grab" of those resources to sign new deals with the new state power authority that Freeman may or may not head. (p.s. kind of interesting that we haven't heard much in the past few days about him or about his legislative confirmation hearings--I guess the first blasts by Dunn sort of delayed a lot of things.)

18 posted on 08/08/2002 9:08:53 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I am not sure that "way to go Davis" is the right response. I am sure you were being sarcastic.

However, this is a clear "shot across the bow" by Wall Street to State Regulators to explain what the hell California's Energy policy looks like and who is going to pay for what.

I might add that in rules of naval engagement only one warning shot is given. I would not want to own stock in SCE right now, nor in any company that is a major supplier to or lender to SCE.

19 posted on 08/08/2002 9:13:51 AM PDT by Robert357
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"Perhaps this is an attempt at a "grab" of those resources to sign new deals with the new state power authority that Freeman may or may not head."

Excellent prognosication! I'm intensely suspicious, due in large part to a certain "consultant" to the CPUC namely Tim Duane, a Berkeley Urban Planning professor who grew up in Grass Valley that's fanatically anti ANY development and anti ANY private sector economic progress!

He is a burgeoning socialist/commonist, and he has adherents in the previous administration, namely Doug Wheeler Secty of Resources and even more so in the Davis Administration who like his charismatic dreams of Ecotopia. He needs to be watched like a hawk. (or a spotted owl)

20 posted on 08/08/2002 9:39:26 AM PDT by SierraWasp
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