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Alabama's High Court Denies Custody to Lesbian Mom
AgapePress (Link to FULL Article) ^ | February 18, 2002 | By Fred Jackson and Jody Brown

Posted on 07/31/2002 3:49:59 PM PDT by davidosborne

(AgapePress) - The chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court says he supports a court decision that denied child custody rights to a woman because she is a lesbian.

Chief Justice Roy Morre -- in an opinion backing the unanimous decision -- said the homosexual conduct of a parent "creates a strong presumption of unfitness that alone is sufficient justification for denying that parent custody of his or her own children or prohibiting the adoption of the children of others." His opinion continued:

"In this case there is undisputed evidence that the mother of the minor children not only dated another woman, but lived with that woman, shared a bed with her, and had an intimate physical and sexual relationship with her.

...But Alabama expressly does not recognize same-sex marriages or domestic partnerships.

...Homosexual conduct is, and has been, considered abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature and of nature's God upon which this Nation and our laws are predicated. Such conduct violates both the criminal and civil laws of this State and is destructive to a basic building block of society -- the family. The law of Alabama is not only clear in its condemning such conduct, but the courts of this State have consistently held that exposing a child to such behavior has a destructive and seriously detrimental effect on the children. It is an inherent evil against which children must be protected."

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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: one_particular_harbour
Tell your friends that carrying around a Bible doesn't make an abusive jerk any less abusive - and that sometimes, your cultural and political enemies are not incorrect.

Who are my "cultural and political enemies"?
What are you talking about?

And you don't need to lecture me on abuse, as I had an abusive parent, and it was the one "carrying around a Bible", but the other one who kept his distance from the Bible.
Kinda blows your little Bible bashing stereo-type now doesn't it?

42 posted on 07/31/2002 6:14:48 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: one_particular_harbour
First off, the MOTHER gave up her rights to the kids to live with her gay lover in California, then she requested them back.

She alleged he slapped the kid and caused his nose to bleed. He admited slapping the boy, but not causing his nose to bleed and that he slapped the boy because the boy was hitting on his sister. She also alleged his slapped the daughter and whipped the kids with a belt. She also alleged that the father knocked the boom box across the room because the kid would not turn it down.

I don't like slapping, but I can see this as completely plausible in the above situations. I think knocking the boom box across is childlike, but I have no problem with the father doing it whatsoever. If my boys told me they were not going to turn the boom box down, I think I would take that racket box out in the yard and bust it with a hammer myself. I have no problem with correcting a child with a belt either.

The MOTHER emailed the Father (and both admit to this) and said he was a "GREAT" father. She later must of had a change of mind and reported him (probable cause she wanted the kids).

Father admits he slapped the daughter because she said " I swear on the holy f***ing Bible".

The father did several methods of control, including "timeouts" and requiring the kid sit in the corner with a PAPER BAG on their head and that bag DID NOT restrict air flow.

It goes on and on, and YES, please everyone read it, it is not anything like One_particular_harbor protrays it to be. This was a man fighting to regain the heart and soul of some kids that had picked up very bad habits from their mother. He did the best he could and I applaude his efforts.

44 posted on 07/31/2002 6:16:14 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: one_particular_harbour
Pardon me while I pop a bag of popcorn for this thread.
46 posted on 07/31/2002 6:18:30 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: one_particular_harbour
Thank you for posting that, but most of it sounds like "he said she said."
And IMHO what the father admits to doesn't sound half as bad as you claimed it was.
Furthermore I don't see anything that supports your characterization of him as some Bible carrying abuser.
Saying "I swear on the ***** Bible" makes somebody a Christian in your eyes?
You're kidding, right?
50 posted on 07/31/2002 6:23:36 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Catspaw
I wasn't accusing anyone of anything. I have a number of friends and acquaintances that are gay. Doesn't bother me in the least. Did I give you the impression that I am homophobic or anti-gay? Are you?

51 posted on 07/31/2002 6:24:41 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jorge
Correction on post #42;

...it wasn't the one "carrying around a Bible"

53 posted on 07/31/2002 6:27:01 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: one_particular_harbour; OWK
Congratulations, you just made the most stupid comment ever posted on FR.

Real men know the Bible and know what it says about such matters. I think the statement "Being raised in a queer household is about as bad (IMO) as being abused sexually or mentally." , is right on the mark 100%. Calling the statement what you did just shows your class, IMHO.

54 posted on 07/31/2002 6:35:31 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: one_particular_harbour
Since you say you are a lawyer, what do you think in the Alabama law did the judges miss. (Given the Alabama definition of gays). Why did the liberal judges side with the conservative judges in this decision if it was a wrong one?
55 posted on 07/31/2002 6:38:13 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: Lowelljr
I'll have to wait until tommorrow to respond. It is late here.
56 posted on 07/31/2002 6:40:20 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: Lowelljr
I think knocking the boom box across is childlike, but I have no problem with the father doing it whatsoever. If my boys told me they were not going to turn the boom box down, I think I would take that racket box out in the yard and bust it with a hammer myself.

Considering some of the music kids listen to these days, taking a hammer to it sounds civilized.
I have to laugh when I think of the father kicking the boom box across the room.

I have no problem with correcting a child with a belt either.

I tend to disagree with parents beating their kids with belts. Smacking a kid with an open hand is ok but using a belt just seems rather sadistic to me.
We had belts used on us as kids, and rather than teach me respect it caused me to become resentful and hardened and rebellious.

57 posted on 07/31/2002 6:42:49 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: leadpenny
No, you're just someone who leaps to conclusions without evidence. You didn't happen to ask those two females if they were, indeed, "domestic partners," did you? If you didn't ask them, why did you conclude that they were "domestic partners?" Because they *looked* like "domestic partners?" (Oh, and of course some of your best friends are gay, uh huh.)

Your post:

Judge Morre should have been with me today. I'm not judging, mind you, just recounting an observation. I was picking up a few thing at the Ft. Belvoir Commissary this morning when something just struck me as odd. Two females. One, an army major in uniform, and the other in civilian clothes. My mind quickly discounted the possibility of sisters, two people from the same office, or just ordinary room mates. I thought at the time, if that's not a domestic partner thing going on, I'll eat my hat. As Seinfeld would say, "Not that there is anything wrong with that."

It should go without saying that, of course, I could have been wrong.

10 posted on 7/31/02 6:17 PM Central by leadpenny

58 posted on 07/31/2002 6:49:23 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Jorge
We had belts used on us as kids, and rather than teach me respect it caused me to become resentful and hardened and rebellious.

To me it was the opposite. I did not like to be slapped, but the belt was a deterent. The belt could be used to correct in the future. I knew when my mother laid the belt on something (like the kitchen table) that I had better do my chores (and doing the dishes was one of them). It made a tool in the future and often prevented future correction.

59 posted on 07/31/2002 6:50:33 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: davidosborne
amen amen amen.
60 posted on 07/31/2002 6:58:48 PM PDT by goodieD
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