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HEY, PATHETIC SCUM CLINTON: Shut Up on Somalia, You Lying SOB! -- Part 3
THE CLINTON CHRONICLES BOOK | 1993 | McKenney/Smith

Posted on 07/30/2002 10:00:20 AM PDT by doug from upland

SOMALIA DISASTER: Letter From Capt. James Smith to Clinton

CLINTON CHRONICLES BOOK
1993 Capt. James H. Smith (Ret.)

Captain James H. Smith is a retired and disable infantry officer. His son, Jaime, died needlessly in Somalia. He bled to death over a 2-3 hour period. Had armored support been provided, he could have been evacuated and his life easily saved.

We will start with the letter that the commander in chief wrote to the parents of Corporal Smith.

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October 7, 1993

Mr. and Mrs. James H. Smith
(Address redacted)

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Smith:

Hillary and I were very sorry to learn of the loss of your son. Specialist James E. Smith's death is a great loss for our nation, as well as for us personally, and our hearts go out to you in your sorrow.

Our efforts in Somalia have helped bring security and stability where anarchy, famine, and suffering once prevailed. You should know that your son and his fellow service men and women have preserved the lives of hundreds of thousands of Somalis. Your son's courage, and his commitment to the ideals on which America was founded, will long be remembered with pride by his fellow citizens.

Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

Sincerely,

Bill Clinton (signature)

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President William Clinton
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, D.C., 20500

October 25, 1993

President Clinton:

As a warrior who was disabled in the Vietnam War and as a father of a warrior killed in action in Somalia, I cannot accept your letter of condolence for the death of my son Ranger Corporal James E. Smith. To accept your letter would be contrary to all the beliefs I, my son and the Rangers hold so dear, including: loyalty, courage and tenacity.

During the battle for Anzio, in World War II, an inept indecisive field commander sent the Rangers into battle where they were slaughtered. Fifty years later the Rangers again were ordered into battle, where they were surrounded and outgunned. But this time it was no the fault of the field commanders. No - this time it was the fault of the Commander in Chief, the President of the United States. Your failure to provide the requested combat support reveals a lack of loyalty to the troops under your command and an extreme shortage of moral courage.

I had the honor to meet the Rangers who fought along side my son and were with Jamie when he died. I heard of magnificent acts of courage and sacrifice. I had Rangers, with tears in their eyes, apologize for letting my son die or their failure to break through and rescue the trapped Rangers. The failure is not theirs, it is yours. Trucks and Humvees cannot replace the requested tanks, armored personnel carriers and Spectre gunships.

As a combat veteran I know that there are no certainties on the battlefield; however, as an Infantry Officer I will always speculate that significantly less casualities would have resulted if you, as Commander in Chief, provided the Rangers with the requested combat support - equipment with which Rangers routinely train and for which approval should have been automatic. The Rangers were pinned down for twelve hours - long hours when the Rangers were fighting for their lives and a Delta Force medic fought to save my son. Jamie bled to death because the requested armor support was not there to break through to the Rangers.

Rangers pride themselves on the Ranger Creed. "Driving on to the Ranger objective," or "Surrender is not a Ranger word" are not hollow phrases to the men of the black beret. These soldiers understand the word tenacious and wanted to complete their mission. As Ranger after Ranger told me, they were hitting Aidid's forces and command structure hard. But, the United Nations was actually impeding Ranger missions by offering sanctuary to Aidid's supporters. Your willingness to allow this dangerous situation demonstrates a lack of resolve in supporting the men you sent into battle.

My son is no longer here to "Lead the Way"; however, I am. Until you as President and Commander in Chief are either willing or able to formulate a clear foreign policy, establish specific objectives and, most important, support the men and women in uniform, I will "Lead the Way" in insuring that you no longer send America's finest to a needless death. When you are capable of meeting these criteria, then I will accept your letter of condolence.

Sincerely,

James H. Smith
Captain/Infantry (Retired)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintontoblame; rangers; scum; somalia; traitor
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To: Alberta's Child
Unfortunately , you are right.
21 posted on 07/30/2002 10:23:36 AM PDT by stalin
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To: Alberta's Child
When your son signs up and makes it as a Ranger, parents should be reasonably secure in the knowledge that the Commander in Chief will give them all the military support available to complete their mission. Clinton did not. The father, whom I interviewed, had every right to expect that. The Commander in Chief should have been relieved of his duties as should have Les Aspin and Warren Christopher.
22 posted on 07/30/2002 10:24:49 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: Calvin Coolidge
I read the book and recommend that others on this forum who just saw the movie also read it. The movie was heavily sanitized by the leftists in hollywood. If I remember correctly, there was a thread on this forum wherein the director, Ridley Scott, was pi$$ed at the hack job.

I respectfully disagree with your conclusion about the armor. A tank would have sent the "skinnies" running. The only time the skinnies showed up for battle was when our guys were surrounded and trapped in those shacks. Even 5 or 6 tanks could have smashed the buildings where the skinnies were amassing and taking pot shots from. I truly believe a few shells from a tank would have taken the fight out of them.

I also recall another thread where Bin Laden was stated that we were cowards and was emboldened to attack us again because he thought that Somalia proved that we would only fight until we suffered casualties. Tell Slick Willie to add that to his legacy also.

23 posted on 07/30/2002 10:26:52 AM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: doug from upland
HEY, PATHETIC SCUM CLINTON: Shut Up on Somalia, You Lying SOB!
24 posted on 07/30/2002 10:27:21 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: stalin
Your attempt to change history is nonsense. Bush left Saddam in power because of the agreements we made with the allies in the region. We really did need their help in using their bases. The mission was to kick Iraq from Kuwait. We did that. I will agree, however, that some Daisy Cutters dropped on Baghdad would have been nice.
25 posted on 07/30/2002 10:28:38 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
You just have a way with words - that I love! Good title, Doug! Good job! Good luck on the radio program tonight.
26 posted on 07/30/2002 10:28:51 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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The Black Hawk raid that led to the deaths of 18 Americans was supposed to be just that: a raid. Get in, take prisoners, get out, all in under 1/2 hour. None of the Rangers even brought their night vision goggles, as they expected to be back home well before dark. The idea that the force would be pinned down and need rescue by ground forces was not even considered. Pakistani heavy tanks, and Malaysian APCs were available, and were eventually used, but it took time to organize. Not for political reasons, but just because Army command didn't see the need to have the force on standby because they did not forsee how badly things might go wrong.
27 posted on 07/30/2002 10:30:26 AM PDT by Calvin Coolidge
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To: doug from upland
Thank you. Clinton did the political thing instead of what was needed. Sounds like a politician allright.
28 posted on 07/30/2002 10:30:37 AM PDT by stalin
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To: doug from upland
"During the battle for Anzio, in World War II, an inept indecisive field commander sent the Rangers into battle where they were slaughtered. "

Wasn't this guys name CLARK?

29 posted on 07/30/2002 10:33:10 AM PDT by blam
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To: Catie
IMHO, having read two books on the battle, and having seen the movie twice, the plan was flawed. It was going fairly well up to the point Wolcott went in. But, why did Garrison send a convoy of unarmored Humvees and 5 tons into the warren of the Bakara market in the first place? Why not instead put the Ranger chalks down, put Delta on top and bottom of the Olympic and exfil the whole bunch back from the roof with Blackhawk slicks and gunship support during their exit? Surely Army aviation could have clamped down the entire area surrounding the snatch site? Am I missing something here? That said, Clinton and his butt-buddy Les Aspin were ultimately to blame for the needless losses by their reluctance to appear "warlike". What a sorry joke, but it was on the Rangers, Delta, SEALs, and 10th Mountain guys.
30 posted on 07/30/2002 10:33:19 AM PDT by astounded
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To: Calvin Coolidge
Some heads should have rolled in washinton for that. In the military as well. I think that Warren Christopher resigned because of this. There should have been some courtmarshals as well.
31 posted on 07/30/2002 10:33:38 AM PDT by stalin
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To: doug from upland
With all due respect, everyone in the United States of America with an IQ over 38 knew that Bill Clinton was an @sshole long before he was elected. Many of them may have deceived themselves, and many of them were such @ssholes themselves that they voted for him anyway, but nobody had any reason to expect Bill Clinton or anyone in his administration to behave like anything other than the flaming @ssholes they were.

Some people I know were prudent enough to bail out of the military the minute Clinton was elected. If I had been in the military at the time, I would have done the same thing. I can also assure you that if I had died in Somalia, my father would have written a letter just like that to every media outlet in the country. Except that it would have been addressed to me, not Bill Clinton -- and he would have asked me how I could be so naive that I would put my life in the hands of such dishonorable, incompetent people.

32 posted on 07/30/2002 10:33:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: doug from upland
The History Channel will be repeating their program: The True Story of Black Hawk Down on August 4th at 8 P.M.(eastern). They usually repeat these programs later in the evening.
33 posted on 07/30/2002 10:34:36 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: MattinNJ
I was typing my above post when yours went up, and wanted to take time to respond to your point.

It is possible that heavy tanks would have sent the skinnies running. However, that is what the Black Hawks were supposed to accomplish, too. Hiding in a building with an RPG and taking pot shots at tank treads or the rear of the turret while the armor column waits for the lead tank to clear the roadblock was well within their capabilities. I think I remember that they were also concerned about the possibility of anti-tank mines being incorporated into the roadblocks.
34 posted on 07/30/2002 10:35:43 AM PDT by Calvin Coolidge
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To: stalin
Wasn't it the former Bush administration that sent them there without armor ?

That doesn't leave Clinton off the hook because he should have send armor too.

It was the Secretary of Defense Les Aspin was the guy who denied the armored unit request for Somalia, and he worked for Billy Butt-Boy CLINTON.

35 posted on 07/30/2002 10:36:35 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: El Sordo
However it should not be overlooked that Colin Powell bears a large part of the responsibility as well.

I don't think that is accurate. Les Aspin (Powell's BOSS) would NOT approve of the requested equipment and the Clintoon was too busy tickling interns to give a rat's a... If you recall Les Aspin resigned in shame and disgrace and then died shortly thereafter.

36 posted on 07/30/2002 10:36:44 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: Bisesi
Two post on Les Aspin in a row. It sure took a long time before his name was mentioned.
37 posted on 07/30/2002 10:41:20 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Alberta's Child
As a warrior who was disabled in the Vietnam War..

I would also say that he was a bit out of line.

I disagree. Had the father been active or reserve, you would be technically correct. Prior service, however, does not relinquish one's 1st. Amendment rights. The father had every right to express himself to the "president". Moreover, as a former soldier, the father had a duty to other soldiers facing peril in the future, to rip Clinton.

38 posted on 07/30/2002 10:41:33 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: demlosers
I thought it was Aspin ?! Didn't he resign over this incident ?
39 posted on 07/30/2002 10:41:41 AM PDT by stalin
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To: Ciexyz
After watching "Black Hawk Down", I understand the background story of this incident. The film showed how the medic and the other men tried desperately to save the wounded soldier from bleeding to death. I'd recommend this film.

I just saw "Black Hawk Down" over the weekend. I thought I hated Clinton before now I just hate that POS even more. This was not our war to fight. We didn't have enough troops or equipment. I was so mad at times I just had to walk away from the movie. My blood was boiling.

40 posted on 07/30/2002 10:42:23 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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