You got to admit, it looks sexy =)
It is also super easy to take apart and clean.
Posted on 07/29/2002 3:51:37 PM PDT by New Horizon
FReepers,
I went and checked out 9mm handguns today. I was looking at the Glock 9mm (mid-size), but was impressed with the Beretta 9mm.
The Glock was light, felt like plastic (or carbon)...what is that material?
The Beretta instantly felt better in my hand (heavier, all metal, etc.)
I am looking for opinions as to which gun is the better of the two. Also, the reasons for your opinions. In any case, I'm looking at the 9mm as a personal protection handgun.
As always, your comments mean a lot to me. Thanks.
I too have a Berreta 92FS and have no trouble shooting tight groups with it. My only complaint with it, at first, was having to thumb the saftey upwards as opposed to downwards. My first love is the Colt 1911 A1.
My choice as well. They are essentially the same gun only the 239 is scaled down in size so is easier to conceal and not as heavy as the 226. Both are extermely accurate. Very simple design and reliable. I like 9mm partly because ammo is dirt cheap, which means I can afford to go to the range regularly. Also, very little recoil which makes it more enjoyable to shoot a few hundred rounds at a time. They also come in .40 cal and if you get one in that caliber you can get a barrel for .357 sig (or vice-versa).
You got to admit, it looks sexy =)
It is also super easy to take apart and clean.
I have the SW99 in .40 which is the same as the walther (the walther may only come in 9mm I'm not sure) and it is a fine all around pistol. I carried it for two years, used it for home defense and shooting at the range for fun.
If you want it for summer carry, get used to wearing a fanny pack though as it's too bulky for carrying with shorts and an untucked shirt.
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I really like the 239 in 9mm-- I shoot it better than I shoot most other guns. I'm also a big fan of the 357 Sig round, so I think my next pistol may be a 239 in 357.
| Action: | Semiautomatic | |
| Caliber: | .40 S&W | |
| Length: | 6.29 in. | |
| Height including magazine: | 4.17 in. | |
| Width: | 1.18 in. | |
| Length between sights: | 5.43 in. | |
| Barrel length: | 3.46 in. | |
| Barrel profile: | Hexagonal profile w/ right hand twist |
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| Length of twist: | 9.84 in. | |
| Magazine capacity: | 9+1 rounds | |
| Mass (weight): | 22.00 oz. (Without magazine) | |
| Muzzle velocity *: | ~984 fps | |
| Muzzle energy *: | ~386 Ft. Lbs. | |
| Trigger pull: | ~5-8 lbs. | |
| Trigger Slack travel (taking up tension and releasing safety): |
0.2 in. | |
| Trigger travel to discharge: | 0.5 in. |
* Depending on ammunition used.
We don't have prairie dogs here. But I have been known to punch out coyotes from time to time. And at long range to boot.
Practice makes perfect. As with any handgun, you have to burn a fair amount ammo before you get good with it.
I've heard that before, but my argument is that I'd rather have three small holes in a dead attacker than one big hole in the wall next to a live attacker. For your average "home defender", a .45 is too much to handle effectively. For one thing, the recoil on a .45 is just too exaggerated to recover from quickly. That gives you one BIG boom followed by a lingering lost second or so while the barrel is brought back under control to place the next shot (the one you won't get off because that lost second was just enough for the assailant to close the distance between himself and the now defensless, previously overly-well armed defender). I've got no argument with a .45 as a defense pistol, it will certainly get the job done in experianced hands. But it will only be effective if the owner spends the time to "get over" the shock of actually firing the thing and spends the time learning to manage that recoil, while the "barrel bounce" on a 9mm is much more forgiving and lends itself to a second or third pull on-target instead of the powerful first pull that careens slightly off-target because the shooter flinched while anticipating that big BOOM.
You're right about the over-penetration with the 9 though. Even a solid center-mass impact has a chance of paying your neighbor a visit after it exits through the "back door" of the uninvited guest. Sobering thought. That's why I tell my neighbors to sleep on the floor and stay away from their walls. Just because I care... :)
even if you get off on the criminal end of it (which of I course I think you should) the family/perp can still sue and their jackass attorney is sure to mention you cut them down with an evil SEMI AUTOMATIC
too bad we even have to think about this aspect....
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