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When Pots Call Kettles Black [re: U.S. financial advice now earns laughs]
Bloomberg.com ^ | July 26, 2002 | William Pesek Jr.

Posted on 07/26/2002 4:51:46 PM PDT by First_Salute

Edited on 07/19/2004 2:10:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Bangkok, July 26 (Bloomberg) -- Greetings from Thailand, where accounting standards are more rigorous than those found in the U.S.

A bold pronouncement for sure, yet that's exactly what Thailand's Securities and Exchange Commission is saying these days. In the wake of scandals at Enron Corp., Global Crossing Ltd., WorldCom Inc. and elsewhere, Thai regulators are calling on investors to be careful about putting money into the world's biggest economies.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; calpers; carlylegroup; downturn; economy; internationalfunds; investingoverseas; pacificrim; worldcom

1 posted on 07/26/2002 4:51:46 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: snopercod; Stand Watch Listen
Bump.
2 posted on 07/26/2002 4:52:09 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute; Robert357
Ouch! The truth hurts. Things fall apart. The center does not hold...

Several of us have guessed that Calpers is also heavily invested in Calpine, an energy company which can do no wrong according to Doofus Davis.

3 posted on 07/26/2002 6:23:41 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: First_Salute
lol
4 posted on 07/26/2002 6:25:50 PM PDT by BlackJack
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To: First_Salute
Calpers would've been much better off investing in Asia

The people managing Calpers do what their politican bosses tell them to do. There was a need for cash to prop up the American stock market and that is where the money went. Losses to the retirees is incidental. Just another example of how the average investor gets it in the neck while the ruling class elite laugh about it at the beach house.

Richard W.

5 posted on 07/26/2002 6:30:33 PM PDT by arete
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To: snopercod; Gophack
I was hoping we might be able to chat about CalPers. One of my favorite quotes from the energy crisis was...

Published Sunday, May 6, 2001, in the Contra Costa Newspapers
When the shareholders of Duke Energy Corp. gathered for the company's annual meeting, Chief Executive Richard Priory likened California's business climate to that of a Third World country: "It's no different than if it was Ecuador or Peru and we had investment decisions to make in those countries."

There was an interesting article summarized in the Friday Rough and Tumble that stated the CalPers was going to have to ask some state agencies to pony up additional funds to cover unfunded pension liabilities. The article didn't say whether it was state agencies (i.e. like CalTrans or local agencies like BART, or some cities.)

The implication to me was that the Budget crisis for Davis, just got a lot worse as some of the agency money that folks think will go for public services is going to be funneled off to pay for public employee retirement instead.

The budget problem is starting to get much worse for California. Could California have an Enron or WorldCom like overstatement of its financial position? Yes, perhaps Simons can grab this concept and run with it. The democrats have historically counted on public employees. With the stock market collapse, a lot of public employees will not feel good about their retirement being put at risk. This is a potential issue for Simons that someone should grab.

6 posted on 07/26/2002 11:43:10 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Robert357; NormsRevenge
Ahah! Another insight that I hadn't considered. Of course the California state workers would have to have a defined benefit plan, so that more contributions would be required in bad years than in good.

I wonder who is serving as the Actuary for CALPERS, Arthur Anderson?

I hope Simon has some good people working for his campaign.

7 posted on 07/27/2002 2:59:08 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Robert357
August is gonna be a real interesting month with all the investigations and coming arrests of CEOs and let's hope, some politicians too.

The Budget Process is having ripple effects way outside of Doofus' pond, for shur. He is such a .. aaaarrrgghhhhhhhhhhh..

California really does need to be broken up into at least 2 separate states if not more. It is too damn big to have 1 sap having control over this many people.
8 posted on 07/27/2002 8:46:51 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: snopercod
I wonder who is serving as the Actuary for CALPERS, Arthur Anderson?

If not, then the state budget people probably were trained by AA.

9 posted on 07/27/2002 3:29:21 PM PDT by Robert357
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