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Officials say large fires may merge (Oregon Fires)
The Associated Press via Oregon Live ^ | 7/19/02 10:34 AM | JULIA SILVERMAN

Posted on 07/19/2002 12:20:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave

Officials say large fires may merge

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7/19/02 10:34 AM

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Two of the largest wildfires in southern Oregon had nearly merged Friday as the total acreage burned since lightning strikes touched off blazes around the state last weekend reached 191,000 acres.

The Tool Box Complex and the Winter Complex were being closely monitored as crews were trying to stop flames from crossing Oregon Highway 31 and heading east into the high desert.

The Toolbox Fire had burned 44,300 acres by Thursday night near the town of Paisley north of Klamath Falls.

The blaze had spread to within half a mile of the 29,300 acre Winter Fire, said David Widmark of the Northwest Interagency Coordination Center in Portland.

Fire crews went door-to-door to the 30 homes in the Ana Reservoir neighborhood Wednesday evening to alert Paisley-area residents to the danger and recommend they prepare for evacuation, said Tim Birr, a Portland metro area firefighter serving as part of the state fire marshal's wildfire management task force.

"Four people went to a Red Cross shelter we set up in Christmas Valley but the vast majority of residents remained at home," Birr said.

Across the southern and northeastern areas of the state, other pockets of rural homes and some ranches continued to be threatened by wildfires that have burned across sections of remote desert and rugged mountain forest.

Officials at the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, Idaho, said Oregon had become the nation's top fire-fighting priority as the wildfire season got one of its earliest starts during a month when the fire danger typically is much lower.

"In my 35 years in the Forest Service, this is the most activity I've ever seen," Widmark added.

Firefighters on Friday will have to work without the aid of air tankers and smokejumpers, which will be grounded for 24 hours because of Thursday's air tanker crash at a wildfire in northern Colorado, Widmark said.

Eleven air tankers have been rotating among the top priority fires in Oregon.

But more manpower is on the way: an Army battalion, the Oregon National Guard and prison inmate crews have been called to join firefighters from state and federal agencies, along with private contractors, as managers shifted resources around the West to take on the worst blazes of early summer.

Ten Oregon crews fighting fires in other Western states are expected home by the weekend to join firefighters arriving from eight other states, including 650 Army soldiers from a base in Kansas due by the end of the month.

Six miles north of Paisley, Summer Lake Hot Springs managers Diana Hash and her husband remained at the hot spring and RV resort even as flames from the Winter fire surged across the low hills and desert two miles away.

"The firefighters have done an amazing job. For the last four days, it has sounded like a war zone with the double prop helicopters," Hash said.

Hash said every evening they have been able to sit on their back porch at night and watch the flames devour the sagebrush, juniper and ponderosa pine.

"We look through a night vision scope and the flames are just everywhere. Every now and then you see huge fires shoot up in the air, and that is when trees are going up," Hash said.

Mornings have been the worst, she added.

"When you get up it smells like you have been standing around a campfire for a week. The air is filled with smoke. Our eyes have been burning, and we have scratchy throats."


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To: WaterDragon
I going off line as we are going to be Grampa and Gramma for the day.

Here is the latest Oregon live link. Maybe you or someone can start a new link: (Latest Oregon Live links to Oregon Wildfires)

All you Oregonians stay safe and start the process of flushing the enviral facists from power before they kill you or your family members. They are more dangerous to you and your families than the al Qaeda terrorists/thugs!

61 posted on 07/20/2002 8:18:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; brityank
Thanks for the pings, Gramps and brit!
I haven't seen the lastest today. Have either of you?

Sorry for not responding yesterday. Hubby had a medical procedure. Nothing serious...
middle age maintenance!;o)

62 posted on 07/20/2002 9:00:01 AM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Grampa Dave
bump
63 posted on 07/20/2002 9:21:47 AM PDT by countrydummy
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To: Grampa Dave
Grampa Dave - thanks for the concern. We're not under a fire threat, although today's smoke in the basin is the heaviest yet. Rising temps won't help the Lake County fires.

I share your anger toward the green nazis and believe they're responsible for this huge mess too.

65 posted on 07/20/2002 10:09:10 AM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: brityank
Great pic !!

Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, enviro-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

66 posted on 07/20/2002 1:53:58 PM PDT by blackie
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To: AuntB
You tell 'em AuntB !!

Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, enviro-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

67 posted on 07/20/2002 1:55:30 PM PDT by blackie
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To: AuntB
Don't give, don't ever give up, B, we'll get our country back !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!
68 posted on 07/20/2002 2:06:16 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the link!
69 posted on 07/20/2002 2:08:01 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Grampa Dave
Great report Dave !!

Hang the Club Sierra types and their sycophants High !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!
70 posted on 07/20/2002 2:47:59 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Stay safe, Archie. I think of you often.
71 posted on 07/20/2002 4:00:42 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: Grampa Dave
Doesn't the Securities and Exchange Commission have to approve any merger between fires this size? I'm assuming they're publicly traded and the merger involves the exchange of stock that is publicly held. Or is this another example of the look-the-other-way attitude of the Bush administration when it comes to corporate wheeling and dealing?

Oh. This is about FOREST fires. Sorry. Never mind.

72 posted on 07/20/2002 5:41:19 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: basscleff
Good post. In addition, doesn't Juniper burn about as hot as pine?
73 posted on 07/20/2002 6:58:07 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: AuntB
Oregon has the highest unemployment in the country, 7.8%, the state is almost 1 billon in debt, PERS, the public employee retirnment fund is 12 BILLION underfunded, we grow 20 million board feet of timber every year and cut 2 million. The state owns much of the timber. But we can`t cut trees, and now they are firewood. Last nite Clinton was in Portland saying that Bush was destroying the envirorment. beam me up, this is crazy
74 posted on 07/21/2002 1:33:24 AM PDT by bybybill
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To: basscleff
I've seen this worship of juniper bushes in your area and even our area. Those things will burn like gin when it is hot. The Sage is the same way.

We have a few juniper bushes to the west of our house in our green belt, and it is a constant battle to keep the dead stuff trimmed. We have decided to start have our yard crew start removing them and will come up with something else in the green belt. We have the Madrone bushes down here that could be even more combustible. I removed all that were on the west side (where the fire would come from and from close around the house.

Dry sage and juniper will burn like gun powder if they are dry and it is hot.

Stay safe and thin out the stuff that burns.
75 posted on 07/21/2002 5:55:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: All
Please make your comments on the new thread re wild fires in Oregon. That makes it easier to follow and respond to.

Here is the newest thread: (The fires did merge and latest update on fires in Oregon)

76 posted on 07/21/2002 6:59:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: AuntB
Be my guest! I'm also working up some graphix for anti-greenies to display. See #17, this thread, for some prelim stuff.

EBUCK

77 posted on 07/22/2002 8:08:16 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: basscleff
Bottom line if you live here clear out the juniper around your home mow down sage, burn around property (in the wintertime), put down rocks, etc.

The problem with that tactic (a good one if the following were not true) is that in a lot of areas a property owner cannot legally "clear" out anything, especially if living near a river/creek/stream ect..And God help the poor surf that's got some salemanders ect. on his property, that Sorry SofaB is SoutofL. Add to that the restrictions on roads (logging or otherwise) and you've got land ripe for burning with no preventive measures allowed and no way to fight them effectively once they start. And the restrictions on private property pale in comparrison to the restrictions on federal land (you know, for forts and such LOL).

EBUCK

78 posted on 07/22/2002 8:21:59 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: basscleff
Perhaps you should have PM'd that to me. They're watching you know.....loose lips and all. I'm happy that you folks have the kind of freedom we western-OR property owners can only dream of.....

EBUCK

80 posted on 07/22/2002 8:37:46 AM PDT by EBUCK
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