Let me clarify my statements for your then. I am objective on this issue and no one in this discussion afflicted with Same-sex Attraction Disorder (SAD) is. Let me explain why I state it this way.
1. Those who are afflicted with SAD but are not in the discussion are either not interested or are already aware that they have chosen their life and that they can change. Why would they argue with me when they agree with me. 2. Those who are afflicted with SAD but are still arguing are trying everything to defend (justify) their own choices rather than admit their sin and be healed. The SAD community would rather see it's members die of AIDS but be proud of being sick than see them be healed. If SAD cannot be cured why do all the SAD fanatics go ballistic whenever the topic comes up? Because if it's a sickness and not an inborn characteristic then they become accountable for their actions and their choices. Most SADs can't handle that. The 'homosexual filters' are the mindset of the SAD that everything has to do with defending their behavior. No thought or action that threatens their image of being unaccountable for their behavior is allowed to exist.
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I am pretty much convinced that neither of the two sides of the argument being discussed have been proven correct(sickness/inborn). Additionally, it does not matter to me which side "turns out" to be correct, if either do. This is as close to objectivity as I can get, without going into double-blind scenarios, etc.
From your post, John, I am fairly sure you advocate the "sickness" argument, for a number of reasons, only a few of which claim to be research based. I imagine you find homosexual conduct repugnant and sinful, but I may be wrong. Regardless of your reasons for backing the sickness theory, you still are centered on only that side of the argument, and thus seek to further that argument over the "inborn" theory. The outcome of the argument, proving that homosexuality is a curable disease, is your ultimate goal. This is inherently subjective, and any opinion presented by you with this mindset is therefore subjective. This has nothing to do with how "right" or "wrong" you believe you are.
Additionally, you brought up some behavior issues with homosexuals; specifically, defending what they do. I must assume you mean what they do to each other? The consensual stuff? If that is the case, why would any adults need to defend consensual activites in private? I personally find that behavior gross, but I sure as heck don't think it's any of my business. Is that what you meant? Or am I misinterpreting?