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Was Jesus 'gay'?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 7/16/2 | Stephen Bennett

Posted on 07/15/2002 10:58:55 PM PDT by scripter

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To: John O
Frankly, I've always seen homosexuality as a dead end by any measure.

Say you are of a judeo-christian persuasion. Both Judaism and Christianity preach against sex outside of marriage in general, and reserve a passage or two for homosexuality in particular.

So you're toast there.

Alright, then, say your a secular-type. Again, homosexuality seems problematic. By any secular standard, an animal's primary duties are to a) survive, and b) breed. Homosexuality is not likely to accomplish B, and with the new and interesting varieties of STD floating about, incluiding AIDS, seems increasingly hostile to A.

So you're toast again.

So please forgive the lack of depth to my argument, but it seems to me that the condition of being attracted to the same sex is either a moral or evolutionary dead end.

And as to Jesus being gay? A lot of times he wasn't even all that cheerful...
81 posted on 07/16/2002 8:22:28 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne
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To: mille99
I disagree, mille99. Jesus has changed the lives of many homosexuals. Homosexuality is a SIN and Jesus died for that sin as well as for all the others. A sinful person can be redeemed and set free from any number of things. I rejoice in how He has set people free from demonic plagues like homosexuality. That's what he does best!
82 posted on 07/16/2002 8:22:49 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: scripter
This is the stuff that Inquisitions are made for.
83 posted on 07/16/2002 8:24:12 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: scripter
This guy wot authored this is a twisted little bit of feces.

And I ain't even Christian.

84 posted on 07/16/2002 8:24:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Corin Stormhands
They left Old Noah out on purpose. Remember, he took male and female on board to repopulate. Couldn't have done that with gay animals. brother parsy.
85 posted on 07/16/2002 8:25:10 AM PDT by parsifal
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To: advocate10
I'm sure if he was married, the Bible would have included that. Remember, he had a higher calling on his life and stayed pure as an example to the rest of us.
86 posted on 07/16/2002 8:25:11 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: scripter

87 posted on 07/16/2002 8:27:03 AM PDT by al_c
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To: scripter
And we wonder why the USA/West is going down the tubes.

The West will one day be ruled by Islam, at the rate we're going.
88 posted on 07/16/2002 8:27:41 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: anka
The majority of our founding fathers were deists who believed that

That's why 52 of the 55 members of the Constitutional convention were active memebers of a CHIRSTIAN church.

Yep them deists .....

89 posted on 07/16/2002 8:29:36 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: Kaslin
I was wondering about that, too.

Perhaps Joe Farah/WND had this piece of Scripture in mind: "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them". Ephesians 5:11. I am of the opinion that we could change a lot of hearts in this country if pastors would get to work exposing those who work in darkness. I'm not holding my breath.



90 posted on 07/16/2002 8:31:24 AM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: scripter
Let's look at it this way.......According to Perry and the MCC's official website, for over 2,000 years, Christians including myself, have been interpreting the Bible wrong. Maybe you have, too.

please pardon my french but..... thi siss ofu llofshi t!

91 posted on 07/16/2002 8:32:17 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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To: scripter; newgeezer
Aftering seeing what the RC's have invented about Mary, nothing about this gay twist on scripture surprises me at all.
92 posted on 07/16/2002 8:35:45 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
I'm not a regular participant on this sort of thread, but I know trolling when I see it.

Don't you think that's 'bad form'?
93 posted on 07/16/2002 8:51:32 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: scripter
Historians call it "presentism," the tendency to uproot historical activities and cast them in a modern light, and judge them by modern standards. To state that Jesus was gay because he wore a purple robe is a particularly egregious example of that (not purple, thweetheart, lavender).

While I respect His prescience, I think I can state with fair confidence that Jesus made no pronouncements regarding video games, double-entry accounting, or the efficacy of the 55-mph speed limit. A "presentist" might conclude from the fact that He didn't have a driver's license that He was a scofflaw in the latter regard - this stuff gets silly pretty quickly.

You can, of course, err in the opposite direction, ignoring the fact that religions are largely about guiding one's moral decisions by applying broad principles laid down by their founders. For example, "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ox" probably applies to more than livestock. But deriving moral lessons in a current venue from principles laid down in the past is a thing considerably different from judging past activities by present standards. I think this is the source of the author's confusion.

94 posted on 07/16/2002 8:59:19 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: headsonpikes; newgeezer
I'm not a regular participant on this sort of thread, but I know trolling when I see it.

Don't you think that's 'bad form'?

No, I think there is a marked similarity. It was the first thought I had. I've spend hours and hours debating RC's about Marianism so the topic comes to mind often. The idea of twisting scripture to ones own agenda is as old as scripture itself. Whether your agenda is twisted sexuality or goddess worship, it's the same thing. But I'll drop it because I have no intention of turning this into anothe P vs RC thread.

95 posted on 07/16/2002 9:07:14 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: John O; scripter; ppaul; buffyt; L.N. Smithee; Clint N. Suhks; Buffalo Bob; SiKKuS; Yakboy; ...
Well said!

Bump!

96 posted on 07/16/2002 9:17:08 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Marysecretary
It would have been more remarkable in that society if He weren't married, and that would have been noted.
97 posted on 07/16/2002 9:17:20 AM PDT by advocate10
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To: scripter
I cannot write the word I want to say.

There will be those who would lead us astray. We were warned by Jesus Christ, himself.

98 posted on 07/16/2002 9:19:52 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: scripter
Why do those folks bother arguing with Christians about the teachings of Jesus? It is obvious they do not agree with Biblical teachings and want to twist Jesus's words and actions to suit THEIR desires. Why not just dump the whole idea of being Christain, quit the pretense of trying to fit into the religion, and start their own religion in which they WILL feel comfortable?
99 posted on 07/16/2002 9:20:00 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: hellinahandcart

In the parable of the woman who has lost a coin (Luke 15), she had ten and lost one. Are gays and lesbians a lost coin joyfully rediscovered in our day? Gays and lesbians are now estimated to be ten percent of the population.

Are they a tithe of humanity? Are they the leaven in the loaf of every culture?

 
Oh. My. God.
 
BWAHAHA. Talk about FReepin' delusional...
 
(your FReeper handle says it all...)

100 posted on 07/16/2002 9:22:34 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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