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Was Jesus 'gay'?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 7/16/2 | Stephen Bennett

Posted on 07/15/2002 10:58:55 PM PDT by scripter

One of the fastest growing churches among homosexuals in America and around the world is the Metropolitan Community Church – a "Christian" church specifically for "gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered communities." The MCC was originally started by openly homosexual ex-Baptist minister, Troy Perry, who after the discovery and disclosure of his homosexuality, losing his license as a minister, a divorce and estrangement from his wife and children, as well as a failed suicide attempt, "rediscovered" his rainbow-colored vocation and ministry.

From his Los Angeles living room in 1968, Perry and his initial 12 members began their "gay church." According to their website, in 2003, the MCC will embody over 77,000 members, spanning more than 17 countries around the globe. Tens of thousands of so-called faithful "Christian" homosexual men and women flock weekly to MCC-affiliated churches worldwide to be "reaffirmed" with the message that God loves them and "gay is OK."

The Rev. Troy Perry, highly regarded in gay circles, has been an invited guest to the White House on four separate occasions from 1977 to 1997 – three alone by former President Bill Clinton. In 1997, Clinton "celebrated" Perry as an "honoree" at a White House breakfast recognizing 100 national "spiritual leaders" in America.

I don't know where this new "open and affirming" world would be today without this modern-day homosexual prophet and "gay"-savvy biblical interpreter. According to Perry and the MCC's official website, for over 2,000 years, Christians including myself, have been interpreting the Bible wrong. Maybe you have, too. Did you know:

In the immoral days in which we live, homosexual men and women are grasping for every possible straw to get acceptance for their destructive, aberrant lifestyle. The secret gay agenda has infiltrated the media, Hollywood, the public schools, the government and, yes, now even religion. How sad to say homosexuals have gone as far as to try and hijack and pervert biblical Christianity and the Gospel of Jesus Christ – all in the name of "gay sex." And America, we've let it happen.

As a man who once lived as a homosexual, my heart continually breaks for those lost in the web of the "gay" deception – a life of sadness, loneliness, pain and even death. Yet a godly anger within me burns even more for those who have the gall and nerve to try and make my Lord and Saviour, the One who rescued me from the tentacles and grips of the homosexual lifestyle, into the "God of Gay."

It may be a "rainbow day" for these misguided men and women now ... in biblical terms, "the pleasures of sin for a season." I highly doubt that it will be as colorful a day when they hear the words from the God whom they thought was so "open and affirming": "Get away from, ye that work iniquity ... I never knew you."

May they be miraculously reached with the truth in love, before it's too late.




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To: scripter; Admin Moderator
Is this thread still up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
121 posted on 07/16/2002 11:59:08 AM PDT by subterfuge
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To: mille99; scripter; John O; ppaul; yendu bwam
"It's amazing how many "straight" Christians are experts on homosexuality, but actual gay people have no idea what they're talking about on the subject."

What homosexuals say about homosexuals:

Is This Gay Behavior Sick?

""Let´s look at gay behavior as defined by two gays, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen Ph.D., authors of After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90´s (1989).

In Chapter Six, they outline “ten categories of misbehavior,” drawn from their own experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other gays. Their contention is that the gay lifestyle, not gay sexuality mind you, “is the pits.” They want gays to improve their image by addressing “what is wrong with a lot of gays.” (276)

What follows are some highlights. As you read this, ask yourself if there is another human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself. Ask yourself if we haven´t caught this disease, or at least the sniffles.

•  The authors say “a surprisingly high percentage” of pathological liars and con men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a stubborn self-deception about one´s own gayness and its implications.

•  They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay morality boils down to “If it feels good, I´ll do it!” If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend´s lover, he´ll do it, justifying it as an act of “sexual freedom” and the friend be damned.

•  They say gays suffer from a “narcissistic” personality disorder and they give this clinical description: “pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation.”

•  As an example of this narcissism, the authors say “a very sizable proportion of gay men” who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.

•  They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such “forbidden” aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.

•  They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children.

•  Many gays are “single minded sexual predators” fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are “the real queerbashers.” Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.

•  “Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long.” They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The “cheating ratio of ‘married´ gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.”

•  Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.

•  The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.


124 posted on 07/16/2002 12:04:47 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter
God bless you, Scripter.

And Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.

Blessings on Freepers Everywhere.
125 posted on 07/16/2002 12:07:30 PM PDT by esopman
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Jesus 'gay'...

Stupid statement made by people who hate God's word, hate Jesus, and want the "church" to revolve around and endorse their sick ways of life.

We could also state over and over that Jesus was an adulterer in order to try to normalize adultery as the prefered way of life.

126 posted on 07/16/2002 12:08:59 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: mille99
Agree about the stereotype. Most of the gay men of my aquaintance are pretty sedate (the fact that most of them are over 60 may have something to do with this as well :D).
127 posted on 07/16/2002 12:10:14 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: mille99
#1) You're either gay or you're not.

Hehehe…or you’re bi-sexual (can’t make up your mind), or you’re in long term incarceration, or you choose you are.

Homosexuality is a paraphilic disorder as is pedophilia, bestiality and incest. It’s hypocritical to protect one perversion over another, an aspect the MCC seems to embrace.

128 posted on 07/16/2002 12:12:40 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: mille99
It's amazing how many "straight" Christians are experts on homosexuality, but actual gay people have no idea what they're talking about on the subject.

That's because us Christians can look at the world with our eyes open to see the truth while the SAD apologists have to look at the world through their 'homosexual' filters.

You (like most SADs) cannot accept the fact that SAD is curable because then you'd have to face the fact that you are what you choose to be and that you are accountable for it. Until you accept the fact that you can change you will never find the truth

GSA(P)

129 posted on 07/16/2002 12:13:28 PM PDT by John O
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To: Goldhammer
How did this happen?

Their life focus is changing society to endorse their ways. We are too busy with jobs, kids, etc., to fight back. Plus they (each group of them) can focus on one issue. We have to spread ourselves too thin trying to fight all of their different angles. Why is the NRA effictive? They have one clear focus (and the correct one, I might add).

130 posted on 07/16/2002 12:13:42 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: scripter
Did Jesus practice perversion?

Homosexuals disparately need to justify their perversion, it’s the coping mechanism needed live with the filth and degradation they inflict upon themselves. Identifying famous people posthumously as “gay” is part of this coping mechanism; there’s no way to defend it from the grave.

131 posted on 07/16/2002 12:14:36 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: EdReform
"It's amazing how many "straight" Christians are experts on homosexuality, but actual gay people have no idea what they're talking about on the subject."

I stand by my posts - that 1/3 to 1/2 of homosexual men have been sexually molested in youth (I've seen quite a number of studies on that) and on the correlation between lack of male love in youth (from fathers, brothers and male peers) being highly correlated with (I didn't say causative of) homosexuality (have seen lots and lots of studies on that). Someone suffering from a psychological condition (such as homosexuality, or a proclivity to seek out young children for sex, or kleptomania, or obsessive-compulsive behavior, etc. etc.) is the least likely to 'understand' their conditions. I read up on all of this for the first time when a homosexual man started insisting that he be part of my teenage sons' scout troop. I came to the conclusion that it was insanity to allow that.

132 posted on 07/16/2002 12:15:51 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: hellinahandcart
Matthew 9:10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

Likewise you cannot be a good Jew without eating meat. The scriptures are very precise on what is to be eaten during the feasts. Passover - lamb, unleavened bread, bitter herbs. If you don't eat meat you sin against God by rebelling against His commands. The passover meal is not optional.

And since Jesus never sinned, we know that he ate meat (as he was commanded to)

GSA(P)

133 posted on 07/16/2002 12:17:10 PM PDT by John O
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To: Clint N. Suhks; EdReform
Homosexuality is a paraphilic disorder as is pedophilia, bestiality and incest.

The vast, vast majority of people understand that someone who is driven to have anal intercourse (a truly filthy and disgusting act) with someone of the same sex has a serious problem - and that such is hardly normal usage of the sexual organs designed for creating new human life on this earth.

134 posted on 07/16/2002 12:18:17 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: mille99
Thanks for the support. It's amazing how many "straight" Christians are experts on homosexuality, but actual gay people have no idea what they're talking about on the subject.

I stand by my posts - that 1/3 to 1/2 of homosexual men have been sexually molested in youth (I've seen quite a number of studies on that) and on the correlation between lack of male love in youth (from fathers, brothers and male peers) being highly correlated with (I didn't say causative of) homosexuality (have seen lots and lots of studies on that). Someone suffering from a psychological condition (such as homosexuality, or a proclivity to seek out young children for sex, or kleptomania, or obsessive-compulsive behavior, etc. etc.) is the least likely to 'understand' his condition. I read up on all of this for the first time when a homosexual man started insisting that he be part of my teenage sons' scout troop. I came to the conclusion that it was insanity to allow that.

135 posted on 07/16/2002 12:20:28 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: mille99
Only a mindless believer in fairy tales could believe the Bible is as pristine as the days its authors wrote the script

Standard SAD debating technique. If you can't twist the meaning of scripture, then insist they are fantasy or corrupted. Anything to avoid having to face the fact that you are sinning against God and that you are accountable for your choices.

If the bible is so corrupt then why do the SADs get their undies into such a knot about it? truth hurts maybe?

GSA(P)

136 posted on 07/16/2002 12:20:54 PM PDT by John O
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To: scripter
You know, Jesus taught it was wrong to even 'look' at another person with lust in your heart. Hard to reconcile that with the average homosexual male, who, according to the CDC, has about 300-1000 lifetime sexual partners (most anonymous).
138 posted on 07/16/2002 12:23:11 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
...and on the correlation between lack of male love in youth (from fathers, brothers and male peers) being highly correlated with (I didn't say causative of) homosexuality ...

If the two aren't causally connected, what causes the correlation?
140 posted on 07/16/2002 12:24:25 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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