"Aid and Comfort" (Jane Fonda) on C-SPAN

Henry Holzer

[corsair]

From: "MURRAY, ANDREW" To: "Hank Holzer"

Dear Hank,

We will be re-airing your talk on "Aid and Comfort" this Saturday July 13th at 5:30pm ET on Book TV.

Best wishes,

Andrew Murray Producer, Book TV C-SPAN 400 North Capitol St. NW Suite 650 Washington, DC 20001 (202) 626-4641 amurray@c-span.org

[corsair]

This refers to the May 25, 2002 C-Span taping of Holzer's talk to a group of Nam Vets including former POW, the book by Henry and Erika Holzer, "Aid and Comfort" Jane Fonda in North Vietnam.

[ChasingFletch]

She apparently is a jerk, but she was a serious turn-on in 'Barefoot in the Park' (what a body)......with that other actor (Redford) whom I would prefer to like because of his Sundance character.......but he's a reactionary, enviro- whacko too! My, my !

[corsair]

Jane Fonda's Rapture.

See if this turns you on. Jane Fonda is the Democrat's most famous AA gunner! (:>)

Jane Fonda Gallery

[leadpenny]

Thanks for the heads up. I'll try to catch it.

Also, note that Evan Thomas, Newsweek and RFK's biographer, is on C-SPAN1 at 9:00 AM Eastern.

Today's C-SPAN Schedule

[Illbay]

Talent and character are not synonymous.

I think Barbra Streisand's the best female pop vocalist of the Twentieth Century. But what a B**ch.

[ChasingFletch]

"See if this turns you on. Jane Fonda is the Democrat's most famous AA gunner! (:>) ".....

Hey, ....bag, I was only talking about her sweet body and sex appeal in "Barefoot in The Park".

Everyone with a brain in their head knows she was a worthless commie pretender. Now, go rent the movie, you 'stuffed-shirt' !!!! (Hope someone gets that!)

IT'S EASY TO STAND UP FOR COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM WHEN YOU SIT HAPPILY, AND COMFORTABLY IN A CASTLE !!!

But she sure had a nice a$$ !!! Her mother committed suicide, I believe when she was in college. I had my father jump off a bridge to his death when I was 14.

Some of these kinds of things change your life. Give Jane a break! She's not going to sit on any more tanks in Vietnam, and I'll bet your righteous, self-important a$$ will be happy about that !!!!

[leadpenny]

Hope you don't mind if I bump your thread again with this:

RFK's Biographer, Evan Thaomas, is on C-SPAN now and has been asked many questions about the assassinations of the 60's. He puts absolutely no faith in any of the conspiracy theories of both Kennedy assassinations but believes the MLK hit probably was the result of a "Truck Stop" conspiracy. In other words, he believes, and said, MLK Jr. was killed by a "Red Neck" conspiracy.

As far as I am concerned his book can collect dust on the bookstore shelves.

[ChasingFletch]

"I think Barbra Streisand's the best female pop vocalist of the Twentieth Century. "......

GOD !!!!!! I think she sounds (and looks) like a possum in a leg trap in the middle of a cold, bitter winter night. (Maybe the possum would sound better - when Babs sings....it's not about the song itself.....it's about Babs.)

Just another self-absorbed CASTLE-COMMUNIST !!!!!!! Bring back the Reds!

Vocalist??????? She sounds like a shreiking, lonely wharthog.

Try listening to Karen Carpenter, Nancy Wilson (from the 50's, 60's - "Guess Who I Saw Today?", Roberta Flack, Bette Midler, etc.). Babs is just a figment of the (Oh, God - here we go) Jewish Music Industry Sales Machine. You would have never heard of the warbler if her folks weren't pushing her bombastic presentation!

With her crooning, she could wake up the crows at 4:45 a.m. in a New York landfill!

She is a great actress, though! "NUTS"......she was GREAT ! Very Appropriate!

Love you, Babs!

[Jack Black]

"I think Barbra Streisand's the best female pop vocalist of the Twentieth Century. But what a B**ch."

What about Aretha? Chaka Khan? I think both sing better and have influenced far more musicians than Streisand.

[leadpenny]

Bump one last time. Won't be able to watch. Hope you get a good running commentary on the program.

[miss marmelstein]

I don't agree with Streisand's Democratic Party politics, but she NEVER went to an enemy country and broadcast Tokyo-Rose style rantings.

[Illbay]

I guess it depends on the music you enjoy most. To me Aretha is essentially one, single style. Same with Chaka Khan, although I agree both are good.

Babs is more versatile.

[Illbay]

No, she's pretty much stayed here and done her best to turn US into a Marxist "dictatorship of the proletariat."

[corsair]

You should have heeded the advisory below the "Your Reply" box - Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

ChasingFletch, I consider this a personal attack.

[leadpenny]

It just started Bump!

[AFPhys]

Add Helen Reddy to your list of good pop 70's or so female vocalists... and there are several others of note too...

However, I am actually more interested when I see anything about Fonda that her quite recent, and apparently very serious, conversion to be a rather conservative evangelical Christian is ignored. I understood her "elders" were advising her to be pretty quiet about that, but it has been so very quiet that I wonder if that has gone by the boards. I am pretty certain that was a major factor in Turner divorcing her, but not much else about my knowledge here is more than very fuzzy.

[cousair]

I saw the program and it was terrific. I cannot wait to buy and read the book.....truly must reading. They made so many good points. I hope everyone here sees the program.

[ChadGore]

[ChasingFletch]

"ChasingFletch, I consider this a personal attack.".....

CONSIDER again. It's NOT a personal attack. 'Self-absorbed' is not an attack.

Everyone may grow up and out eventually......even Jane and you.

Good luck with that!

[ChasingFletch]

"I am pretty certain that was a major factor in Turner divorcing her, but not much else about my knowledge here is more than very fuzzy."...

I have no clue on her "changes" in that regard either. I hope for her the best, she's been down the road. But that was really foolish in the Vietnam Era. But, there were alot of fools in that era. (Hillary and Bill, etc.)

p.s. The "stuffed shirt" comment was a line Jane used in "Barefoot in The Park" when referring to Redford's button-down lawyer character. That movie was great......the fellow servicing the phone was hilarious....(Murray the Cop in "The Odd Couple"). Oh well, take care!