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2 major league teams in peril
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 11, 2002 | RICHARD JUSTICE

Posted on 07/11/2002 5:24:47 AM PDT by Dog Gone

One might miss next payroll, commissioner says

By RICHARD JUSTICE

MILWAUKEE -- Baseball commissioner Bud Selig said Wednesday his sport's debt problems have grown so severe that one team is in danger of being unable to pay its players Monday when checks are scheduled to be distributed.

If it happens, that team likely would be forced out of business, thereby throwing baseball into turmoil at a time when the owners and players are engaged in increasingly angry labor negotiations.

Major league players typically are paid on the first and 15th of every month during the regular season, and Monday, July 15, is the next payroll day.

Selig also said a second team is so deep in red ink it may not be able to finish the season.

Selig declined to name either team, saying he didn't want to put additional pressure on owners as they attempt to trade their highest-paid players and obtain loans that would allow them to stay in business.

However, he did say that unlike last winter when he arranged loans that kept "two or three" teams afloat, he has no choice but to allow the two clubs in question to fail.

"That's it," Selig said Wednesday in an interview with a small group of reporters in his downtown office. "I'm done. Major League Baseball's credit lines are at the maximum. We've done everything we can to help people by arranging credit lines. Frankly, at this point in time, we don't have that luxury anymore.

"If a club can't make it, I have to let 'em go. I'm a traditionalist, and I hate all that. It pains me to do it. I just don't have any more alternatives."

Industry sources have indicated Selig arranged financing that may have kept the world champion Arizona Diamondbacks and Tampa Bay Devil Rays afloat last winter. He steadfastly refused to engage in speculation about which teams were in trouble now, except to say the club in the greatest jeopardy "will surprise you."

While Selig steadfastly insisted no more financing is available, he also confirmed that some owners believe the players and their union won't believe the sport's financial problems are serious until a team or two winds up in bankruptcy.

However, he emphasized allowing a team to go out of business was not a bargaining chip in labor talks.

"I've been told that," he said, "but it's just not true. It would have enormous financial and legal implications for every team."

While the idea of a team failing during the regular season seems incomprehensible, Selig said baseball teams are carrying unprecedented debt loads. In recent years, many team officials have cited rising player salaries, falling attendance and stadium costs for the growing red ink.

Each major league team has a $72 million credit line through Major League Baseball, and Selig said "around 20 teams" have reached their limit. In addition, many teams have separate loans arranged through individual banks.

"Our total debt is $3.5-$3.6 billion," he said. "It's stunning. Right now, there's nowhere else to go. Some clubs have enormous debt. Some of it is stadium debt, but it's still debt you have to pay off. There are teams in debt by hundreds of millions of dollars.

"People want to question the losses. Nobody who has ever seen the numbers questions them. People ask why we don't share our numbers. Guys, we've shared everything. There's nothing left to share. No one ever questions the veracity of these numbers except those that want to question them for some other reason."

Of the team in immediate danger, he said: "I'll be frank, I don't know if they'll make it or not."

Selig's comments come at a time when labor talks are reaching a critical stage. Owners and players return to the bargaining table today, and if no real progress is made in the next few weeks, players appear ready to walk off the job, just as they did in 1994.

Players will strike -- or at least set a strike date -- to gain leverage in the negotiations and because they're convinced owners intend to unilaterally implement a dramatically new labor agreement after the season.

At issue is revenue sharing between the sport's large- and small-market clubs.

Selig and the owners believe the disparity between the teams has grown so large that only a few clubs can compete for a championship each season.

If the season ended today, six of the eight playoff spots would go to teams ranked in the top 10 in payroll. Only two teams out of the top 10 -- the St. Louis Cardinals at 13th and the Minnesota Twins at 27th -- would make the playoffs.

Meanwhile, five teams are on a pace to lose 98 games, and all five of them are ranked in the bottom 11 in payrolls.

To remedy this disparity, the owners want to contract two teams and to increase revenue sharing between clubs from around 20 percent of local revenues to around 50 percent. They would also like a 50 percent luxury tax on payrolls above $98 million.

The players have proposed much more modest increases in revenue sharing, saying any dramatic differences might slow the growth of player salaries.

Selig said another work stoppage like the one that forced cancellation of the 1994 World Series would be painful, but that the game's economic system must be changed to allow teams other than the New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers and New York Mets to regularly compete for a championship.

While Donald Fehr, executive director of the Major League Players Association, said the differences in each side's proposal are "bridgeable," Selig painted a much different picture.

"There are significant differences," he said. "Nobody wants a work stoppage less than me. The other side of the coin is that we have problems that need to be dealt with. We can't continue to ignore them and make believe they don't exist. That's all I hear from the clubs, from the fans.

"The path of least resistance would be to maintain the status quo or something close to that. I tell you that baseball as we know it can't survive that. I know people don't like to hear that and say, `There they go again.' I am telling you that the game we're sitting around here talking about is not going to survive by maintenance of the status quo. It just can't happen."

As Fehr begins a tour to brief players on all 30 big-league teams on the state of negotiations, Selig said he's considering making his own tour of clubhouses to guarantee players hear his side of the story as well.

He said several players, including some prominent ones, have encouraged him to do this.

"One guy told me last night, `Why can't you come and talk to these guys?' " Selig said. "Before this is over, I may do that. We're walking off a cliff if we have another work stoppage."

At times, Selig seemed close to acknowledging another work stoppage is inevitable. Given the game's history, it's unlikely real negotiations will take place until a strike date looms. If players do strike, it'll be the ninth work stoppage -- player strike or owner lockout -- since 1972.

Still, Selig said the system must be changed even if it means enduring another work stoppage.

"You know how much I love the game," he said. "I don't like the position I'm in. But somebody is going to have to have the courage to fix it. This is going to be my last job. I've been in this sport all my adult life. This is a painful ordeal.

"The solutions are painful, very painful. They've been let go too long. Regardless of whose fault it is, it doesn't make any difference. I can't take my eye off the ball."


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1 posted on 07/11/2002 5:24:47 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Any guesses as to who?
2 posted on 07/11/2002 5:27:39 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Dog Gone
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3 posted on 07/11/2002 5:27:57 AM PDT by Huck
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To: Dog Gone
MLB didn't care enough about its fans to finish the all-star game because one of their prima-donna pitchers might have had to take an extra day off, and then they expect us fans to fill their stadiums.

I don't think I care enough about baseball to worry that they are going to go bankrupt. Minor league ball is more fun to watch. Hell, high school baseball is more fun to watch and its free.

4 posted on 07/11/2002 5:30:22 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Dog Gone
Ooooo! Americans may lose one of their "bread and circuses"!!! Heaven forbid that they actually become involved in life instead of staying glued to the tube.
5 posted on 07/11/2002 5:30:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Ooooo! Americans may lose one of their "bread and circuses"!!! Heaven forbid that they actually become involved in life instead of staying glued to the tube.
I thought on the right we supported the right of people to spend time "non-constructively", if that's their desire.

-Eric

6 posted on 07/11/2002 5:32:48 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Dog Gone
I'm not one bit saddened by this so-called news. Selig should have cut the cord with these loser teams, reduced payroll costs, reduced ticket prices and filtered out the lackluster not worthy of pro-ball talent too long ago. He has about as much business sense as a bag of garbage. The entire league is toast.
7 posted on 07/11/2002 5:34:57 AM PDT by Blackdakota
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To: Dog Gone
Who really cares. These players are a bunch of cry babies and don't care about the game. Just look at Monday's All Star game.A tie score? They are paid big bucks to play a kids game. I have not watched a baseball game since they went on strike instead of playing the world series. I used to be a big Yankee fan but no longer care for the game.
8 posted on 07/11/2002 5:35:54 AM PDT by duckman
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To: Dog Gone
This is a classic case of killing the goose that lays the gold eggs. To heck with all of them for destroying a great game. IDIOTS.
9 posted on 07/11/2002 5:36:47 AM PDT by Agent Smith
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To: Thane_Banquo
Tampa Bay is a sure bet. I would have said Montreal in the past but MLB is propping them up for a season (befor ethey sell them to someone in DC). The other team could be Florida, Arizona, or Oakland.
10 posted on 07/11/2002 5:38:44 AM PDT by Corporate Law
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To: Thane_Banquo
He steadfastly refused to engage in speculation about which teams were in trouble now, except to say the club in the greatest jeopardy "will surprise you."

That makes me think it's a club that is successful on the field, maybe even the World Series champs, Arizona.

11 posted on 07/11/2002 5:39:00 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
2 major league teams in peril

The Tigers have been in peril for 10 or more years, but it is not financial peril.

12 posted on 07/11/2002 5:42:09 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: E Rocc
I thought on the right we supported the right of people to spend time "non-constructively", if that's their desire.

Its only supported if your are going to a church revival meeting.

13 posted on 07/11/2002 5:44:57 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: Dog Gone
Hopefully all of MLB will collapse soon. I've been doing my part to support the collapse of Major League Baseball by not going to any games or buying any MLB gear since the 1994 strike. The players AND owners are both to blame and are only digging their own graves. No loss to me, I just read a book.
14 posted on 07/11/2002 5:45:57 AM PDT by xrp
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To: duckman
Who really cares. These players are a bunch of cry babies and don't care about the game. Just look at Monday's All Star game.A tie score? They are paid big bucks to play a kids game. I have not watched a baseball game since they went on strike instead of playing the world series. I used to be a big Yankee fan but no longer care for the game.

I'm a big baseball fan, but after the All-Star game fiasco, I think these guys need to come down a few notches. Maybe if a few teams collapsed, that could be the catalyst to get the owners and players to do what's best for the game rather than their own pocket books. I was going to try and get tickets to next year's All-Star game in Chicago, but I think I'll skip it now.

15 posted on 07/11/2002 5:52:04 AM PDT by irish_lad
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To: Dog Gone
This is great news. I'm tired of big time sports and all the money involved. Fans (read: paying suckers) are the last thing they think of.

Last ball game I saw was minor league night game in Savannah and liked it a lot more than the majors. Real nice family atmosphere with kids running semi-loose and having a ball! $4 with plenty of free parking.
16 posted on 07/11/2002 5:53:02 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Dog Gone
Thread started last night, worth checking out: Selig: Team Might Not Make Payroll
17 posted on 07/11/2002 5:55:18 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Dog Gone
The problem is all the losers that worship these morons.

I go to the AAA games with the kids, eat hot dogs, sit under the lights, put a few bucks in the hat as it goes by . . .

All the professionals and their fans can go to he!!

18 posted on 07/11/2002 5:56:10 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: irish_lad
I used to follow the game but since the strike and the near continuous stadium shakedowns for millionare players and owners, well, its got to the point of "who cares ?"
19 posted on 07/11/2002 5:58:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: E Rocc
You do. But can you not see the parallel of the bread and circuses during the decling of the Roman Empire with the Welfare and pro-sports of today?

As Earl Pitts says: "WAKE UP, AMURICKA"!
20 posted on 07/11/2002 5:59:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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