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1 posted on 07/09/2002 12:41:37 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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Controlling transfers of high tech military technology to China will always be difficult because the Chinese are superb at money laundering and bribing, and the recipients of these funds have been in BOTH parties. And it will continue to be until taking foreign campaign contrbutions is made a felony with mandatory jail time.

The Arabs are also experienced bribe givers. The Harken Energy deal of "Dubya" was little more than a thinly disguised bribe of the son of the Vice-President, with the Bahrainis doing the bribing.

2 posted on 07/09/2002 1:22:12 PM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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To: *China stuff
Index Bump
3 posted on 07/09/2002 1:34:09 PM PDT by Free the USA
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-Softwar!-- has tons of National Security info-

-Bill Gertz's Site-- China/Panama/ & more

-AviationNow--

-The Center for Security Policy--

-The S-300PMU [SA-10 land-based, SA-N-6 naval version] surface-to-air missile system --

-Missilie Threat--

-Lots of Info Re:Nukes, Missiles, Cox Report, etc.--

5 posted on 07/09/2002 2:03:00 PM PDT by backhoe
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When I hear legitimate evidence that Bush has received contributions from China then I may possibly consider there is some comparison between bush and Clintonian(The name of his statue).

Allow me to give you a word picture of billy Boy.

A box of cigars on a table by a chair in the White House.

6 posted on 07/09/2002 7:24:19 PM PDT by Slingshot
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This is the ugly side of the Republicans. It's typical of the PC way they have handled this whole 'war'. Unfortunately, most conservatives are unwilling to deal with the evidence that the Bush admin. is probably as corrupt as the Democrats in this area.

I've noticed something that nobody wants to talk about. We are frantically passing 'security' measures like the Patriot Act and others, encroaching on our freedoms with regularity. IN the meantime, Congress refuses to formally declare war, and the Admin. refuses to push for it.

Now, Im unfamiliar with the law here, but doesn't a war declaration provide for the temporary suspension of the Constitution and the subsequent reinstatement later on? It's exactly what we need to establish security, and protect our liberty at the same time, and the politicians are avoiding it. It's obviously a power grab.

9 posted on 07/11/2002 2:59:03 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: Stand Watch Listen; It'salmosttolate; rdavis84; 2sheep; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter
Esau, Edom, Orion, Russia

Genesis 25:30
And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.

Edom, literally Red.

Malachi 1
1   The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2   I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3   And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4   Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
5   And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel.

We are impoverished, (still hungry)
We will return and build the desolate places (Ancient Babylon, Iraq)

Genesis 27
1   And it came to pass, that when Isaac was old, and his eyes were dim, so that he could not see, he called Esau his eldest son, and said unto him, My son: and he said unto him, Behold, here am I.
2   And he said, Behold now, I am old, I know not the day of my death:
3   Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison...

...38   And Esau said unto his father, Hast thou but one blessing, my father? bless me, even me also, O my father. And Esau lifted up his voice, and wept.
39   And Isaac his father answered and said unto him, Behold, thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth, and of the dew of heaven from above;
40   And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.
41   And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.

...when thou shall have the dominion, that thou shall break his yoke from off thy neck.

Job 38
31   Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

Loose the bands of Orion (the hunter)

Revelation 6
3   And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4   And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

3685 Keciyl {kes-eel'}
the same as 03684; TWOT - 1011e; n m
AV - Orion 3, constellation 1; 4
1) constellation, Orion
1a) Orion, the constellation
1b) constellation (general)

Same as 3684

3684 keciyl {kes-eel'}
from 03688; TWOT - 1011c; n m
AV - fool 61, foolish 9; 70
1) fool, stupid fellow, dullard, simpleton, arrogant one

Esau, Edom, Orion, Russia, the Red thread...

28 posted on 07/16/2002 8:09:37 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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bttt
41 posted on 01/04/2003 1:51:43 AM PST by WatchNKorea
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"He also says that pressuring Russia to stop arms sales to China wouldn't work and that, since "this administration has not, will not," name China as an enemy. ."

First, the question of IS CHINA AN ENEMY has to be answered.

Nixon made peace with them, much to the alram of the Soviet Union.

Bush Sr. greatly favored improved relations with China and went to China as lated as 2002 to expand relations with them.

Bush Sr.'s Glad Tidings for Beijing.

And why is Bush allowing continued advanced weapons sales (weapons that came from the United States) from Israel to China?

I smell some dead carp here.

45 posted on 01/04/2003 6:06:35 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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BTTT...MUD
54 posted on 01/04/2003 1:19:00 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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The techonology transfers to Red China preceeded Klinton, although he is certianly guilty.

Good 'ol Prescott Bush was involved in transfers of technology in the late 1980s.

55 posted on 01/04/2003 1:24:00 PM PST by Mulder
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The consequences of permitting faster computer hardware into the hands of our enemies can be illustrated by the value of one our own military software projects. The overall package contains 1 million lines of Fortran and 1 million lines of C. In the mid 80s, the software ran on a Burroughs mainframe that filled the computer room. Execution of all the steps to create the final product took about 18 months. The code was migrated to a DG minicomputer. The same steps could be accomplished in 6 months. When I came to the program in 1991, the new target hardware was a Sun 640/MP with 16 GB of disk. The staff was inexperienced in UNIX, but their first pass at a port did the same work in 3 1/2 weeks. After pushing a software improvement process and a bit of training, the same work could be done in 36 hours. An individual pilot could get specific sortie work done in 15 minutes on a SPARC laptop. That was the state of the art by January 1993. It is now 10 years later. CPUs are 50 times faster now. Most desktop machines have 3 times as much disk as the 640/MP had. Assuming no improvement at all in the software, the execution time for the whole process would be under 1 hour today. The limiting factor now is the how fast the human users of the system can input the updated parameters.
61 posted on 01/04/2003 5:40:54 PM PST by Myrddin
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Sounds like we're really walkin' into it!

Dragon's Fury BUMP!

67 posted on 01/06/2003 1:19:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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