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Socialist Professor Responds
7/8/02 | commieprof

Posted on 07/08/2002 4:52:12 PM PDT by commieprof

An open letter to my critics:

Let me please take this opportunity to thank you for your feedback and to clarify a few points that seem to be at issue. Thank you to those who have sent messages of support, and to those of you whose criticisms are based in argument and reasoning, rathern than in name calling and death threats. Thank you to those of you who noticed that I took care in my pledge not to identify with terrorists, suicide bombers, or Islamic regimes, but with the ordinary people around the world, including those here in the United States. And thank you, I guess, to those of you who are praying for my salvation. I tend to see a better world as being possible here on earth and am not waiting for the second coming so that the meek can inherit their due. But at least you aren't threatening my life, and I appreciate that.

To those of you who are sending me hate mail equating me with the enemy, however, let me attempt to make the following clarifications. It is true that the format of a pledge does not allow one to present arguments full-blown. People may have misunderstood my meaning and intent because of the brief and condensed nature of the genre.

I take my freedoms to dissent in this country very seriously. I do not want to live anywhere else in the world, your invitations to exile notwithstanding. I am a citizen with the right to protest what I see as unjust and inhumane policies, both economic and military. You are correct that I am relatively privileged; I would not have the same rights to dissent and protest in countries like Afghanistan, although if I lived there, I would be part of social movements to resist oppression whether in the form of Islamic fundamentalism or U.S. bombs. Activists in the countries I named often stress the importance of critique and dissent here in the belly of the beast. I feel a certain obligation, an obligation that comes with freedom, to speak out alongside of those with less freedom to speak. I pledged solidarity not with any nation's leaders or terrorist organizations, but with the ordinary people, who are not being liberated by U.S. sanctions and bombs or by U.S. support for the Israeli occupation. I see the people in Afghanistan who were bombed as they celebrated a wedding two weeks ago as being as human as those who died in the World Trade Center, for whom I also have tremendous compassion.

I should add that people in developing countries are not being liberated by the opportunites provided by U.S.-dominated world capitalism. I do not have space to go through all the evidence for these claims, but if you have an open mind, I suggest you read some Howard Zinn, especially People's History of the United States and his more recent Terrorism and War. Suffice it to say that if you have read any history you know that the U.S. either put in place or supported with money and guns the very dictators you decry today, including the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. The United States has taken part in the undermining of democratic (defined as supported by the majority of the people, not in terms of the free market) regimes in Latin American and the Carribean almost as a matter of course (Chile, Haiti and the Philippines for example), not to mention in Asia and Africa. The list is too long to recite here.

Those of you who are offended that you might have to fight and die for my freedoms clearly have misunderstood my anti-war stance. I do not want you to be sent to other countries to die or kill, because I think those actions are not in defense of our freedoms; more often it's about protecting oil profits (even Bush Sr. admitted as much about the Persian Gulf War, which resulted in more than a million and a half civilian deaths). I don't want you over there killing civilians in my name, when my freedoms are not what is being defended at all. Neither are yours. Even though you may hate me, I don't want to you die for someone else's profits.

I do not agree with the analysis that "our way of life" offers hope and salvation to those living in other countries under dictators and in poverty. When four percent of the world's population controls more than 60% of the world's wealth, when the nation states that harbor the strongest enterprises defend those interests with force, when U.S. foreign policy and economic policy are designed to drive countries into unsalvageable debt or rubble, it is impossible for me to remain uncritical. Too often, it is not the fault of bad leaders, bad values, wrong religion, or corrupt people in other nations that brings them ruin, but the policies of production for export over meeting human needs, the support of the U.S. for dictators like the former Suharto in Indonesia, who massacred more than 200,000 people but was, according to the state department, "our kind of guy" because he supported Nike and Freeport MacMoran's exploitation of the people there. I could go on. When Madeline Albright said that the deaths of 5,000 children a month in Iraq as a result of U.S. sanctions were a reasonable price to pay for U.S. foreign policy objectives, I reacted with the same level of disgust that you are bombarding me with now.

I think we have to face these hard realities about "our way of life" if we are truly to understand "why they hate us" and to prevent acts of desperation and hatred targeting civilians in the future. I am not defending terrorism (which, if defined as the targeting of civilian life in retaliation for political and economic grievances, would apply to U.S. conduct in every war it has fought). But it seems reasonable to consider that "they" (Iraqis, Palestinians, Muslims in general) might hate the United States for the havoc it has wrought in the Middle East. Some examples: First supporting and arming Hussein when he was fighting our enemies and killing the Kurds, then slaughtering Iraq's civilian population and bombing the country back to the stone age. First supporting and arming Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan when they were fighting "the communist menace," then bombing their civilian population. . . You get the idea. The support for Israel and its wars and occupations against Palestinians against United Nations resolutions and international law doesn't win our government any friends, either. It is always wrong to terrorize civilians in response to such abuses. Yet the history is part of the answer to the question and a change in U.S. foreign policy must be part of the solution.

If you cherish the freedoms of the United States, it would be hypocritical of you to be intolerant of the expression of opinions that differ from yours. I am a well-educated, thoughtful human being. I am well qualified to teach at the University ("universe"-ity), which should be a place for thoughtful and respectful sharing of diverse views. My students get trained in critical thinking: the capacity to take in a number of perspectives and weigh evidence and reasoning on their own, which they would not be able to do if there were not at least a few dissenters among us here. I mean, the business school gets the big bucks and military- and corporate-funded research dominate the campus. It's a rare class where a student would find points of view that challenge the corporate and geopolitical hegemony of the United States. So I feel sorry for the students whose parents would keep them from attending my classes or the University of Texas because of what I wrote. Don't you have faith that your children can think for themselves? Don't you trust them with a range of positions and approaches to knowledge? Haven't you prepared them to defend your family's values? Any viewpoint is welcome in my classes so long as the arguer can provide evidence and reasoning in support of claims. Contrary to popular mythology, I do not routinely fail conservative students; I do welcome their voices in class so long as respect for others and standards of argumentation are sustained. Actually, the smarter conservative students tell me that they enjoy a good challenge, which they take as a sign of respect. And believe me, I am a member of a tiny political minority on campus that is nowhere near acting like the "thought police" envisioned by the hard right. The kind of fear I hear in the emails I am receiving and on the conservative listservs I have been monitoring is based on a complete overestimation of any single professor's influence.

In sum, I am not the enemy of freedom; to the contrary, I am among its staunchest supporters. I think freedoms should be expanded, not curtailed, in this time of crisis. I worry that now with the modified Patriot Act (which allows security agencies to perform warrantless searches, detentions, and wiretaps, among other things) and the new mega- security-intelligence agency consolidation, that we may not have these freedoms to dissent very much longer. I will raise questions about U.S. foreign policy and corporate globalization as long as I can. It is my prerogative, my right, and, as I see it, my responsbility.

A brief comment on patriotism, or nationalism: To me it seems untenable to say that I have more in common with George W. Bush, Martha Stewart, or Kenneth Lay than I do, say, with a teacher in Afghanistan or a student in Iraq or a UPS driver here at home. Likewise, they might share interests with me and have little in common with Saddam Hussein or Al Quaeda. As a socialist (not a Stalinist, and there is a difference), I have a positive vision of international solidarity and struggle against greed, war, exploitation, and oppression on a world scale. In my view, patriotic fervor dehumanizes people around the world so that their deaths or their hunger or their homelessness can be blamed on them and forgotten.

It's not like me to base an argument on the words of the "founding fathers" but let me remind you that it was Thomas Jefferson (leaving aside his fondness for slaves for a moment) who believed that criticism and dissent were at the core of democracy. He even thought that the citizenry should take up arms against a government when they thought it was becoming too tyrannical. It took a revolution to make the democracy you cherish, and in my view it will take another to make real democracy (political and economic) for the majority of the world's population.

Ben Franklin wrote that when a nation prioritizes security over liberty, the consequences could be dire for democracy. Contrary to my correspondents, I do not believe that order is the ground from which all liberty springs. History teaches quite another lesson--it took a civil war, for example, to end slavery. And "order" is a god term not of democratic societies but of fascism. Unfortunately, I believe that in this extremely sensitive time people are all too willing to embrace a notion of security--not only against terrorists but also against critical ideas and thoughtful dialogue--over liberty.

I hope that this set of expanded arguments makes for more thinking and fewer personal attacks. Of course, I hoped to provoke a response and I welcome deba†e and dialogue. I do not feel like a victim and I am not complaining about being criticized. However, I hoped to get a *real* response, not just hate and intimidation in the name of freedom.

I encourage activists with views similar to mine to come out into the light of day. The urgency of speaking now far outweighs the flak we will get for standing up.

With best regards,

Dana Cloud


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KEYWORDS: fascism; liberty; opuslist; patriotism; pledge; religion; socialism; theflag
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To: VRWC_minion
This teacher may think her students agree with her but she would probably be surprised how many merely tell tell her what she wants to here.

Yes, that's very true. She would be shocked to hear the opinions of her and of her classes from students whom she'd be certain were on her side! The deluded are always the last to find out.

My dad gave me the same advice when I was in a history class taught by a particularly odious dogmatic professor. I could not drop the class. So dad's advice was to grit my teeth, regurgitate back to the prof what the prof said, and to forget about the whole class afterwards. I did, and it worked out for me rather well since I got an "A" in that class. It's easy to play the game, once you realize that it's nothing more than a game. My dad also taught me to think for myself, a legacy I carry on to this day many years later. I do my own history research now, and the insane comments of that prof from years ago are unimportant to me now.

61 posted on 07/08/2002 5:48:15 PM PDT by Jay W
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
(1) Round up scores of like minded sisters and brothers and start a co-op enterprise to show how socialism beats Capitalism in the socio-economic marketplace. It will be demonstrable proof that until now no Socialist visionary has attempted. You do have to prove to the Capitalists that you are really not bloodsuckers looking to re-distribute the savings others have worked hard to accumulate.

Actually, coöps can work under certain circumstances. Indeed, even relatively pure communism can work in societies that are small enough that everyone knows everyone else, and where people inherently reward hard workers and shun slackers. Unfortunately, such societies are very fragile, and coöps can usually only survive if they both maintain a narrow focus and have a means of accountability (either direct, if they're small enough, or financial, if they're larger).

62 posted on 07/08/2002 5:48:16 PM PDT by supercat
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To: commieprof
Socialism and Communism are utopian ideals that can never be realized in the actual world.

As we have seen recently with Enron et al, human nature leads to greed and criminality when power is bestowed, and therefore, in every case, the entity in charge of "equalizing outcomes" becomes corrupt. This corruption leads the ruling class to hoard and steal from the masses, as we saw in Soviet Russia, Cuba, and elsewhere.

Better that people should be free to do for themselves whatever they can and we leave the acquisition of material possessions to "survival of the fittest" or the natural order.

In this light, I believe those who wish to "save the world" are actually the destroyers.

FReegards...

63 posted on 07/08/2002 5:49:19 PM PDT by copycat
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To: commieprof; mhking
A sample of the good doctor's published work. Perhaps your ping list might find Dr. Cloud's work worthy of discussion...

Critical Studies in Mass Communication, Dec 1992 v9 n4 p311(14)
The limits of interpretation: ambivalence and the stereotype in 'Spenser: For Hire.' (Critical Demography) Dana L. Cloud.

Author's Abstract: COPYRIGHT 1992 Speech Communication Association

A structural analysis of the racial oppositions in the television program Spenser: For Hire challenges the interpretivist media studies claim that popular culture texts are necessarily polysemic. The article argues that representations of racial difference, in particular, are not polysemic but are rather ambivalent within the structure of the racist stereotype. The character Hawk's oppositional stance and persona, though subject to contradictory critical evaluations, serve the needs of the dominant culture to depict blacks in stereotypical ways.

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Western Journal of Communication, Fall 1998 v62 i4 p387(3)
The rhetoric of : scapegoating, utopia, and the privatization of social responsibility. Dana L. Cloud.

Author's Abstract: COPYRIGHT 1998 Western States Communications Association

This article performs an ideographic analysis of the bipartisan political deployment of the slogan during the 1992 Presidential election campaign. The analysis shows that talk functioned during that campaign to scapegoat Black men and poor Americans for social problems. However, the ideograph also is invested with a gendered utopian narrative that makes its scapegoating less apparent and more persuasive. Ultimately, in constructing the family as the site of all responsibility and change, the rhetoric of privatizes social responsibility for ending poverty and racism.

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Critical Studies in Mass Communication, June 1996 v13 n2 p115(23)
Hegemony or concordance? The rhetoric of tokenism in "Oprah" Winfrey's rags-to-riches biography. Dana L. Cloud.

Author's Abstract: COPYRIGHT 1996 Speech Communication Association

This article examines television and print biographies of television talk show host and producer Oprah Winfrey. Conventional biographical narratives construct a token "Oprah" persona whose life story resonates with and reinforces the ideology of the American Dream, implying the accessibility of this dream to black Americans despite the structural economic and political barriers posed in a racist society to achievement and survival. The article develops theories of tokenism, biography, autobiography, and hegemony to analyze both racial and gendered dimensions of tokenist biography. It describes tokenism as a rhetorical mechanism of liberal hegemony with regard to race and class. The essay challenges recent redefinitions of hegemony as happy "concordance" and suggests that critics cannot assume that black stars and texts automatically represent difference and resistance in popular culture.


64 posted on 07/08/2002 5:49:37 PM PDT by general_re
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To: commieprof
You've got all the freedom that our Constitution guarantess. What you do not have is the freedom to eradicate the Government that document created and the Rights enshrined therein. Advocating our country change to Socialism or recognize a superior world government based on a Socialist model is not guaranteed by that Document and will eventually get you shot as an enemy to that document. I join in the peaceful suggestion that you emmigrate to a country more in line with your ideals if you cannot recognize that any attempt to bring about Socialism or Socialist policies is treasonous.

Or do you dispute that every Socialist nation recognizes less rights (or none at all) of it's subjects than our Republic guarantees? Don't even try to weasel out of that question - you state empthatically that you do not wish to live anywhere else. Perhaps because you realize that only in the United States you have an expectation of privacy and the right to postulate your ridiculous drivel without fear of being imprisoned by a government censor? I suggest you truly think about that which you advocate - because if your wish came true neither of us would have the freedoms you say you cherish.

65 posted on 07/08/2002 5:49:55 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: commieprof
Of course, I hoped to provoke a response and I welcome deba†e and dialogue.

If you really had guts, you would debate David Horowitz at your school.

66 posted on 07/08/2002 5:50:29 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: commieprof
terrorist: "which, if defined as the targeting of civilian life in retaliation for political and economic grievances, would apply to U.S. conduct in every war it has fought"

I am a bit confused here. When has the U.S. targeted civilians? Maybe she is refering to "civilian life" as in "civilian 'way' of life". A bit ambiguous here.
67 posted on 07/08/2002 5:52:16 PM PDT by Texas_Longhorn
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts; commieprof
By the way, I would like to learn that tax evasion trick Kennedy pulled by taking his mother to Florida for several days while she was dying so he could claim his mother was from Florida and avoid Massachusetts inheritance taxes.

Please see my previous post re "corrupt ruling classes taking advantage of power" and apply it to this Kennedy anecdote.

68 posted on 07/08/2002 5:52:54 PM PDT by copycat
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To: general_re
I notice she doesn't have any work on the popularity of BET and the stereotypes of black men as gangsters and jailed morons.

I think Bob Johnson, a black man, profits from that. But maybe she wants the black men to be that way, the noble savage being saved by the Intellectual.

Oops, Noble Savage.

69 posted on 07/08/2002 5:53:08 PM PDT by Benrand
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To: DainBramage
She should get a job with Boeing. The CEO believes we need to "share" the wealth - meaning American poor and middle class get hammered.

But the left has given up on the American people since we don't pay them homage. Better to find some distant other to fantasize about liberating/enslaving.

70 posted on 07/08/2002 5:53:13 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: VetoBill
She forgot to post a "barf alert."
71 posted on 07/08/2002 5:55:27 PM PDT by Inkie
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To: commieprof
Any viewpoint is welcome in my classes so long as the arguer can provide evidence and reasoning in support of claims.

You obviously reject real world evidence every day which disproves your bankrupt Utopian "philosophy."

Why would we believe you'd embrace evidence presented to you by your students, over whom you hold complete power?

Regurgitating Marxist dogma doesn't seem to be a very good indicator of your ability to engage in "critical thinking."

America's been very, very good to you.

72 posted on 07/08/2002 5:55:37 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: DainBramage

hee haw

73 posted on 07/08/2002 5:56:01 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Lazamataz
Now I am not wearing any pants.

That might inspire a reaction if it was posted by your better half...

74 posted on 07/08/2002 5:56:01 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: commieprof
"If you cherish the freedoms of the United States, it would be hypocritical of you to be intolerant of the expression of opinions that differ from yours"

We are not intolerant of your expression of opinions, but rather disgusted by your opinions. Slightly different.
75 posted on 07/08/2002 5:57:47 PM PDT by Texas_Longhorn
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To: supercat
Actually, coöps can work under certain circumstances.

The few that I have seen here in Massachusetts always lacked strong leadership, the group will not surrender power to a driven task-master. The few that I have seen seem to have faded away. In my mind, they are not stable. Imagine if you can a co-op competing with Bill Gates.

76 posted on 07/08/2002 5:59:00 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Abundy
I am not expecting or looking for a reaction; I am merely stating a fact.
77 posted on 07/08/2002 5:59:05 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: dennisw
Taxpayers of Texas not Iowa. Too bad for me.
78 posted on 07/08/2002 6:00:06 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Abundy
If you know what I mean.


79 posted on 07/08/2002 6:00:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Benrand
What you're looking at, those three abstracts, is almost the totality of the doctor's professional work, excluding a few book reviews and letters-to-the-editor that she has authored. And excluding her dissertation, which I just don't have the stomach to go and dig up at the moment.

I thought that the good doctor might actually wish to hear from some members of the community she spends so much time and effort writing about. Between Marxism, feminism, abortion, and race-relations, the good doctor has some rich material for virtually every freeper here, and I'd hate to see anyone left out...

And FWIW, I think you may have nailed exactly why the good doctor might not want to spend much time contemplating the BET phenomenon ;)

80 posted on 07/08/2002 6:00:54 PM PDT by general_re
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