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Basic training starts for former NFL player (Pat Tillman)
ESPN and AP ^ | 8 July 2002 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/08/2002 7:02:24 AM PDT by fnord

COLUMBUS, Ga. -- Pat Tillman is ready for a different challenge from the one he normally got in the NFL playing safety for the Arizona Cardinals.

Pat Tillman played four seasons with the Arizona Cardinals.

Tillman turned down a three-year, $3.6 million contract offer from the Cardinals in May to pursue his dream of becoming a Ranger in the U.S. Army. His military pay will be about $18,000 annually.

His quest begins Monday when he begins basic training at Fort Benning, Ga., aiming for membership in the elite light infantry unit.

Tillman's decision didn't surprise longtime friends.

''Pat is the type of person who needs challenges,'' Arizona State University associate athletic director Mark Brand said. ''When I heard what he was doing, I knew it was perfect.''

The 25-year-old Tillman walked into the Cardinals headquarters a few months ago and told team owner Bill Bidwell and the coaching staff of his plan to serve his country, then simply vanished.

Tillman does things his way.

Last year, he turned down a $9 million contract offer from the St. Louis Rams because of his loyalty to the Cardinals, who chose him in the seventh round of the 1998 NFL draft.

Tillman has turned down all requests for interviews with the news media to discuss his new venture. He didn't even give an explanation to Cardinals coach Dave McGinnis.

''He said there were personal reasons he didn't want to divulge to me, and I didn't press him on it,'' McGinnis said. ''I respect his decision. I think it's honorable. It's not just a snap decision. You're dealing with a guy whose waters run pretty deep.''

Several of Tillman's friends think the Sept. 11 attacks influenced his decision.

Former Arizona State linebackers coach Lyle Setencich attended Tillman's wedding in May and talked with him about the NFL.

''He mentioned he might get out of it,'' Setencich said. ''I asked him if he wanted to go to law school and he kind of smiled and said, 'There are a lot of things I can do.' In Pat Tillman's view of the world, football is a part of it, but there are a lot of other things that are important to him.''

“ You don't find guys that have that combination of being as bright and as tough as him. This guy could go live in a foxhole for a year by himself with no food. ” — Phil Snow, talking about Pat Tillman

Tillman's goal will be difficult to achieve. Only 35 percent of all candidates get to wear the coveted black and gold Ranger Tab on their left shoulders. It's a badge of honor bestowed on those who withstand the countless push-ups, parachute drops and mortar shots that make up almost a year of training.

As a linebacker at Arizona State and a safety in the NFL, Tillman developed a reputation for fierce play characterized by crunching hits. Bored in the offseason two years ago, Tillman ran a marathon. Last year, he competed in a triathlon.

''You don't find guys that have that combination of being as bright and as tough as him,'' said Phil Snow, who was Arizona State's defensive coordinator when Tillman played with the Sun Devils. ''This guy could go live in a foxhole for a year by himself with no food.''


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To: american_ranger
My son goes in August 13. He is also bound for one of the Ranger battalions.

He deserves the black hat. He, and others like him, will make the *sand beret* something just as special.

It's good to see that the ones replacing us are every bit as good at taking care of each other as we were back when.

21 posted on 07/08/2002 8:46:49 AM PDT by archy
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To: doug from upland
I agree. Now let's hope Bush get's serious about the war!
22 posted on 07/08/2002 8:48:20 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: fnord
In other news today, Major League Baseball prepares to strike.

Now these are what I call heroes! You think being a Ranger is tough?

Try standing all by yourself at 3rd base for a couple of hours every night when you're 50lbs overweight, for....ooooohhh..... a miserable $3 million dollars/year.

Salute the true American heroes!!

23 posted on 07/08/2002 9:04:29 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Registered
After four years in the NFL, he's probably got enough money.

Good luck, PFC Tillman. KATN!
24 posted on 07/08/2002 9:37:28 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: WestPoint90
Yeah, I wonder how he'll handle 1 MRE a day. A friend of mine lost 25 lbs in Ranger school and he was a marathon runner.
25 posted on 07/08/2002 9:53:37 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: fnord; ALOHA RONNIE
I know I'm a "broken record"...
but I pray to G-d that in fifty years people are talking about Pat Tillman (and all who serve
the country) in the same way they have talked about Ted Williams over the past couple of days.

Oh, and bump for Rocky Versace as he gets his Congressional Medal of Honor
(posthumously) today.
He was even discussed today on KABC radio here in liberal Los Angeles.
26 posted on 07/08/2002 10:00:49 AM PDT by VOA
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To: fnord
Oh, and for Pat Tillman (and his comrades), I think that line from the movie "The Right Stuff" applies:

"You're damn right that's a man!"

(Reply to the ambulance driver as he muttered that he saw a man [Chuck Yeager] staggering away
after he'd lost his F-104 Starfighter while setting a new altitude record...in an impromtu
American style.)
27 posted on 07/08/2002 10:04:02 AM PDT by VOA
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To: fnord
Ranger On Mr. Tillman!

Airborn & Amen.

RLTW

28 posted on 07/08/2002 10:15:53 AM PDT by Khurkris
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To: RayBob
Well, you may well be correct that Rocky Bleier was drafted- so were a LOT of people. At least he didn't run off to Canada (or Oxford). And he left half of a foot there- so I'm willing to give him a LOT of credit for his service.
29 posted on 07/08/2002 10:30:10 AM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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To: SBeck
Outstanding. I hope he has been given good advice, which is:

  1. Many have trod the path before. It is hard, but possible
  2. Listen. Listen, and do your best. (Even when less is "enough")
  3. Never quit. In basic, in airborne, in RIP and in Ranger School most of those who fall by the wayside quit. (Either officially or just by giving up when effort is needed).
  4. Mind your health and don't get hurt (should be child's play for a pro athlete).
I don't follow sports much, so I never heard of this fellow. Seems to have a lot of character, and I wish him luck.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

30 posted on 07/08/2002 10:47:19 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
You are, of course, correct. I was too brief in my comment and may have left the wrong impression. I did not intend to belittle Blier's service or not give credit to him for going to VN when he could have bolted to Canada. He had a lot to lose when he went over and by all accounts, should have lost it all but for his determination to be a pro football player. He deserves credit for that accomplishment.

My intended point was that the player who walked away from millions of dollars a year to go into the service voluntarily at a time of war, and to sign up for Ranger training because he wanted to serve his country is very commendable. While RB served his country and did so at a price, he went there out of duty, maybe even grudgingly for all I know, but if he had his druthers, he would have been in a Nat'l Guard Unit and playing football. This guy walked away from millions and is willingly putting himself in harm's way.

I did not intend to begrudge RB his due for his service. I only intended to point out that what this guy is doing goes beyond it. Hope I haven't stuck my other foot in my moth with this one. ;o)

31 posted on 07/08/2002 10:55:52 AM PDT by RayBob
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Check this:

Ranger Class 1-83, graduating 9 Dec 82.

The Criminal is in the second row, 4th from the left. "Undistinguished Survivor."

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

32 posted on 07/08/2002 10:58:19 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Guillermo
Cardinals lost is our country's gain!!!!!
33 posted on 07/08/2002 10:59:23 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: fnord
This is so cool...I suspect he'll do very well.
34 posted on 07/08/2002 12:04:28 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Thanks for sharing that dude!
35 posted on 07/08/2002 12:04:31 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Bisesi
One Pat Tillman is worth more than 50 Alec Baldwin's and Tom Cruise's.
36 posted on 07/08/2002 4:09:01 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: fnord
Well, God Bless Mr. Tillman. BTTT
37 posted on 07/08/2002 4:12:24 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
He might have lost a halfa a foot...but as the inimitable Myron Cope said...

HE LOOKS LIKE NIJINSKY AHT THERE!!!!!!! YOY!

38 posted on 07/08/2002 4:18:52 PM PDT by Benrand
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To: fnord
bump
39 posted on 07/08/2002 5:48:31 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: fnord
Nice to know at least one current sports figure who has the same dedication {to country}. Bump.

5.56mm

40 posted on 07/08/2002 5:50:36 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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