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Have Anti-Father Family Court Policies Led to a Men's Marriage Strike?
GlennSacks.com ^ | 07/05/02 | Glenn Sacks and Dianna Thompson

Posted on 07/07/2002 10:55:29 PM PDT by FreedomFriend

Kathleen is attractive, successful, witty, and educated. She also can't find a husband. Why? Because most of the men this thirty-something software analyst dates do not want to get married. These men have Peter Pan Syndrome--they refuse to commit, refuse to settle down, and refuse to "grow up."

However, given the family court policies and divorce trends of today, Peter Pan is no naive boy, but instead a wise man.

"Why should I get married and have kids when I could lose those kids and most of what I've worked for at a moment's notice?" asks Dan, a 31 year-old power plant technician who says he will never marry. "I've seen it happen to many of my friends. I know guys who came home one day to an empty house or apartment--wife gone, kids gone. They never saw it coming. Some of them were never able to see their kids regularly again."

The US marriage rate has dipped 40% over the past four decades, to its lowest point ever. There are many plausible explanations for this trend, but one of the least mentioned is that American men, in the face of a family court system which is hopelessly stacked against them, have subconsciously launched a "marriage strike."

It is not difficult to see why. Let's say that Dan defies Peter Pan, marries Kathleen, and has two children. There is a 50% likelihood that this marriage will end in divorce within eight years, and if it does the odds are two to one that it will be Kathleen, not Dan, who initiates the divorce. It may not matter that Dan was a decent husband--studies show that few divorces are initiated over abuse or because the man has already abandoned the family. Nor is adultery cited as a factor by divorcing women appreciably more than by divorcing men.

While the courts may grant Dan and Kathleen joint legal custody, the odds are overwhelming that it is Kathleen, not Dan, who will win physical custody. Over night Dan, accustomed to seeing his kids every day and being an integral part of their lives, will become a "14 percent dad"--a father who is allowed to spend only one out of every 7 days with his own children.

Once divorced, odds are at least even that Dan's ex-wife will interfere with his visitation rights. Three-quarters of divorced men surveyed say their ex-wives have interfered with their visitation, and 40% of mothers studied admitted that they had done so, and that they had generally acted out of spite or in order to punish their exes.

Kathleen will keep the house and most of the couple's assets. Dan will need to set up a new residence and pay at least a third of his take home pay to Kathleen in child support.

As bad as all of this is, it would still make Dan one of the lucky ones. After all, he could be one of those fathers who cannot see his children at all because his ex has made a false accusation of domestic violence, child abuse, or child molestation. Or a father who can only see his own children under supervised visitation or in nightmarish visitation centers where dads are treated like criminals.

He could be one of those fathers whose ex has moved their children hundreds or thousands of miles away, in violation of court orders which courts often do not enforce. He could be one of those fathers who tears up his life and career again and again in order to follow his children, only to have his ex-wife continually move them.

He could be one of the fathers who has lost his job, seen his income drop, or suffered a disabling injury, only to have child support arrearages and interest pile up to create a mountain of debt which he could never hope to pay off. Or a father who is forced to pay 70% or 80% of his income in child support because the court has imputed an unrealistic income to him. Or a dad who suffers from one of the child support enforcement system's endless and difficult to correct errors, or who is jailed because he cannot keep up with his payments. Or a dad who reaches old age impoverished because he lost everything he had in a divorce when he was middle-aged and did not have the time and the opportunity to earn it back.

"It's a shame," Dan says. "I always wanted to be a father and have a family. But unless the laws change and give fathers the same right to be a part of their children's lives as mothers have, it just isn't worth the risk."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; divorce; divorcecourt; divorcelawyer; donutwatch; familycourt; fathersrights; golddiggers; lawyer; marriagestrike; moneywhores; visitation
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To: FreedomFriend
I am amazed to find someone with some of the same ideas about the current state of courtship/dating/'whatever.'

More remarkable is your hypothesis regarding women putting off marriage by dating non-marriageable types. For some time I have been telling people that perhaps the reason why girls had inexplicably stopped seeing me after a couple of months of deep conversations, tender affection and, I admit, sex, is that I am a man that is too deep and too genuine for the normal woman to want to stay around if she feels marriage isn't an option.

I've given up on trying to figure it out. Right now, I'm dating an 18 year old girl. Maybe that's young, but having gone through women my age and older that seemed unable to cope with the demands of a mature relationship, I figure she's got as good a shot as any. At least she hasn't been worn down by the world, is a believer in God and in committment. It's funny that I mention that believer part, because I'm an agnostic, but if the girl's faith can give her a strength that others lack, I'm beginning to be all for it. I cherish the slow pace of our relationship and the purity of it, as I appreciate all the little things more and find more comfort in an embrace than I might feel in intercourse.

Dating in the post-college world is even more despair-inducing than college. I've made my share of mistakes in relationships, but I think I'm learning. I just wish the women around me would learn without having to go through a husband, babies' daddies, 'bad boys', drunken escapades of self-degradation, etc before learning the same things.
122 posted on 07/14/2002 12:51:18 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
BTTT!!!!!
123 posted on 07/14/2002 3:17:46 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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I want to thank J.R. and others for bumping me this article.

That article is pretty much accurate with regards to what is going on with this femanazi attitude that has spread throughout this country with, I might add the aid and abetting of T.V. talk shows like Maury, Springer and others.

I ran a thread awhile back which addressed this very same issue and included a link to an ABC News item on "NeverMarrieds." I was taken to the woodshed for simply explaning the reasoning why some men choose to stay single. In my case I have very high standards of faithfulness and loyalty that I expect of anyone who wants to be Mrs. I will simply not accept a tougher standard on me and a looser standard on my want to be wife or girlfriend of faithfulness in relationships. No other man should have to either.

Until attitudes change and we get rid of this femanazi attitude, there's going to be a continued shortage of men eager to commit into a relationship.
Regards

124 posted on 07/14/2002 4:48:20 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
I think this has already been posted at least twice.
125 posted on 07/14/2002 6:09:14 AM PDT by summer
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To: goldenstategirl
What Kathleen and other women need to do is stop giving it away for free.

Following the attacks on 9/11, the airline industry suffered a serious decline in ridership as people became fearful that they could be the next ones driven into the side of a building.

What would you have thought of an airline executive who proposed shutting down the Interstate Highway System as a way of getting people to start using airplanes again?

126 posted on 07/14/2002 7:00:12 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: FreedomFriend
And American single women wonder why more and more single
men are opting to look overseas for single women???
127 posted on 07/14/2002 8:47:01 AM PDT by jragan2001
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To: FITZ
Good post. How ironic it is that while most marriages
(especially arranged ones) that originate in Far Eastern
or other Asian countries have lasting power, yet more
and more marriages in the Western world end up in
divorce, especially here in the United States.
128 posted on 07/14/2002 8:50:23 AM PDT by jragan2001
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To: Nick Danger
I hate to burst your bubble, but women are not here to service you because you have committment issues and can't go without.
129 posted on 07/14/2002 11:28:18 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: goldenstategirl
I don't recall suggesting that you had any sort of "issues," nor did I attempt to read your mind concerning whether you are getting any. I'd appreciate the same consideration.

By the way, please be careful when you post something like, "What Kathleen and other women need to do is stop giving it away for free." There are VERY harsh laws against prostitution in the United States. You could find yourself facing criminal charges which could lead to a term of imprisonment of up to ten years.

130 posted on 07/14/2002 2:36:15 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: pgkdan
WHERE can i find judges like that in my area?? my ex-hubbie has a PHD but refuses to get a job other than burger flipping until his daughter is safely too old to get child support!
131 posted on 07/14/2002 5:09:53 PM PDT by bandlength
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To: Skywalk
good luck. you're gonna need it (when the 18 year old child "finds herself" during her twenties.
132 posted on 07/14/2002 5:12:58 PM PDT by bandlength
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To: Nick Danger
There are VERY harsh laws against prostitution in the United States. You could find yourself facing criminal charges which could lead to a term of imprisonment of up to ten years

How you deduced this from what I wrote is a mystery. You're right, I can't read your mind and I sure as hell don't want to.

It's an even greater mystery why you resurrected this thread days after it was finished to personally attack me. No where, anywhere, did I suggest that I or other women prostitute themselves. Get your mind out of the gutter.

133 posted on 07/14/2002 5:30:07 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: bandlength
LOL. I'm under no illusions, my friend. But I would consider anything past 2 months a minor success(as nothing has lasted longer than that in over 5 years of dating)

It's like winning a title in sports. Next year you have to start all over again, but at least the feeling when you won was nice.
134 posted on 07/14/2002 5:32:40 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: FreedomFriend
Yes, I see evidence of it everywhere.

Combine this bias in the courts with the "why buy the cow" logic of some men with regard to the woman in their life and it's no wonder we have a marriage strike.

Frankly, I am amazed we have any marriages at all.

135 posted on 07/14/2002 5:34:51 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Nick Danger
ROFL on #130!

(LOL! LOL!)

136 posted on 07/14/2002 5:41:20 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Dark Mirage; Tennessee_Bob; meyer; Rebelbase; LindaSOG
Bad Penny Ping..
137 posted on 07/14/2002 5:51:17 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
Whoa - deja vu.
138 posted on 07/14/2002 5:57:12 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Yes, yes.. Here they are in all their splendor.
139 posted on 07/14/2002 6:00:09 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: goldenstategirl
Get your mind out of the gutter.

Aren't you the acid-tounged devil. Bossy, too. Didn't you say you were having trouble finding a husband? Maybe they hear you open your mouth, and they run. I wouldn't want it in my house either.

How I deduced that you were talking about prostitution is that you said, literally, and in so many words, that women should not "give it away for free." I believe the term for exchanging sexual favors for valuable consideration is quite accurately "prostitution."

Perhaps you now regret saying what you did. I can't help with that.

140 posted on 07/14/2002 6:11:10 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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