Now why would our F.B.I. cover up the terrorist attack at LAX on July 4th, 2002?

7/6/2002 | TLBSHOW

[TLBSHOW]

Now why would our F.B.I. cover up the terrorist attack at LAX?

I mean they tell us we will be attacked and then we are attacked and then they say this was not a terrorist attack. Now why would our F.B.I. cover up the terrorist attack at LAX?

The PEOPLE WHO WERE ATTACKED knows what it was and IT WAS a TERRORIST ATTACK.

We are either being played for fools or the terrorist just maybe are within the FBI. We know the democrats are terrorist helpers so maybe just maybe the FBI HAS BEEN SUBVERTED TOO!

Just a question for comments.

[Dave S]

Even 9/11 would have not been explained as terrorism if there had only been one plane involved.

You forgot all the phone calls they allowed and/or encouraged from the plane. FAA knew that the plane had been hijacked before it hit the tower. They even had a description of the hijackers.

[Autodidactic]

From the FBI's point of view, maybe they don't feel it's prudent to recognise every terrorist event as a terrorist event. I mean from their point of view, why give the enemy what they really want; attention and recognition as a martyr??

Imagine how frustrating it must be for the terrorists when they go through the trouble to blow something up or kill somebody and nobody (FBI, Government officials etc.)seems to notice it was terrorism!

I'll remind you also that the government said months ago that they would be using dis-information (LYING to the media) as they saw fit.

Show a little patriotism; this is the best government in the entire world. Believe it or not, they know what they are doing.

[dirtboy]

Not very smart.

[bvw]

"Why, for example, would an al-Qaeda sleeper agent make it known to his neighbors that their flying of an American flag irritated him?"

No Beckett's point is not valid and the reported actions of Atta and his crew do indeed have instances where they were fairly open in expressing their anti-American feelings, in insulting people, in being rude, and also where their actions were pretty weird -- like learning to fly a 747 but not how to land it.

While some few can live a double life easily, many are unable to all the time. Perhaps it is the term "sleeper agent" that is misleading. That implies years of formal training in spycraft, a formal selection and screening process, years of training in being a "sleeper". From all reports, Al Queada is much less formal, much less orgamized at that level of training.

[TLBSHOW]

oh that is not good. we all can agree or disagree that is why I asked for comments. Not attacks. Yes dave s did an attack but we don't have to respond in kind.

[Dave S]

I've seen the "not on watch list" used regularly in "LAX not a terrorist attack" articles and posts.How many of the September 11,2001 hijackers were on a watch list?

\ I just mentioned the "not on watch list" because so many of the conspiracy spinners were saying yesterday that he was on the FBI watch list, based on the never accurate DEBKA.

[Buckwheats]

I disagree. If I'm banned for pointing out stupidity, what's the point of being here.

[dirtboy]

I disagree. If I'm banned for pointing out stupidity, what's the point of being here.

One can disagree without resorting to blatant personal attacks the way you have here.

[bvw]

"make it hard to get to the root of the real conspiracies because of too much static noise."

In this case the real root problem is a different thing than a conspriracy, and if we all operate in that boxed-in thinking that requires a official conspriracy before acting, well then we will be taken over by these cockroaches, for each cockroach seems to operate independently.

There is no King Cockroach either.

[Dave S]

Interesting how fast they made it back to Egypt ---which wouldn't be so likely if this was some America-loving nutcase who just went postal.

Their neighbors said they left several weeks ago for a Summer vacation with their relatives. Its likely the idiot waited until his family had left so they wouldnt be harassed. Although I would rather be questioned by the FBI in the US than by Egyptian Security in that Egyptian rat hole.

[swarthyguy]

"Being a general in the Eyptian Army makes you less, not more likely to be associated with that terrorist group."

It's also true that the assassins of Sadat were in the Egyptian Army.

As was Ali Mohammad, US Green Beret, ex-Egyptian Army, convicted in the 1993 WTC Attack.

One of Osama's lieutenants was an Egyptian cop.

My point is, it's anecdotal but a potentially serious issue, when the sons of the elites of our "allies" are against the US.

Make this the 20th jihadi arabnutcase nut to be killed after inflicting damage on US soil, that we know of, in the past year.

"Unless you are a Jew or Israeli or know the individuals involved, its like hearing about the latest drive by or drug killing. "

Fine, so i'm jewish. A devout muslim, arab, 10 years in the US, family recently evacuated from the LandofWar, and you compare this to a drive by? Dead is dead, but why these jews were murdered is important, despite what you say. Simple hate, ok, that's STILL terror.

Targeting unarmed civilians in any context is terror.

"Why the coverup"

It's the absurdity of the "coverup" that's galling. The FBI refuses to call this terror! That's what's irritating people. A arabmoslem going postal! That's terror.

[Joe Hadenuf]

The guy was a nut case. What difference does it make if he was a disgruntled employee, a Jew-hater, or a wannabe terrorists. This was not some well organized event. I fail to see any conspiracy by the FBI to cover this up. There really is no point.

And when some fanatic in Israel that blows himself up at a bus stop, killing himself and only three others, that to is not a "well organized event". They are all nut cases! These acts are not some high level, high tech, secret affair. and all the attacks in the future will not be like 9/11.

This is not brain surgery, and is hap hazard at best. This guy was loaded for bear at LAX. This much is known. It was just cut short. He could have easily took out 20 or thirty people with the two weapons, high capacity mags, etc..

I fail to see any conspiracy by the FBI to cover this up. There really is no point.

Oh, come on, you can call it what you want, but it's pretty obvious that they are doing everything in their power to minimize or downplay this event.

[Lockbox]

And as such it would be a random act of violence

No an action motivated by the terrorism is still a terrorist action.

[dirtboy]

Now that you bring up that counter point, I do recall thinking after about a month of news about the 9/11 terrorists that these guys were literally walking around with Al Queda lapel pins on. It's not that they were that good. It's that folks in this country just didn't bother trying to connect any dots.

How are you doing, by the way?

[cgbg]

I don't want these guys defining anything,

If the FBI had used your words there would be no problem. The problem is public officials are saying this guy probably was not a terrorist. That is _way_ over the line based on the available evidence. The Israelis have it right. When an Arab storms into El Al and starts shooting randomly he is presumed to be a terrorist barring compelling evidence to the contrary.

[tomkat]

foflmao !

[Boss_Jim_Gettys]

"This guy was not a part of a terrorist organization; therefore it was not an act of terrorism..."

I don't see how you could possibly know he did not belong to a terrorist organization. He smells of Egyptian Jihad. Just because Mayor Hahn, Gov. Davis, the FBI and Ari Fleischer won't tell you it was terrorism doesn't mean a thing.

Also, whatever happened to the reports of one or two others being arrested in conjunction with the attack? What about the reports of bomb-sniffing dogs hitting on his car and apartment? What about the FBI watch list? What about the reasons for the INS denying his request for permanent residency? On and on go the questions, but the "authorities" have no answers.

Obviously nothing to see here, please move along.

[carenot]

The question isn't: Why is the Gov't "covering up" a terrorist attack? The question is: Why do all the conspiracy nuts on FR continually jump to the wrong conclusion and then aid the enemy by spreading fear and confusion?

That ain't the question.
Why did they tell us to watch for terrorist attacks and when one happens they tell us that ain't what it was?

[#3Fan]

In this case the real root problem is a different thing than a conspriracy, and if we all operate in that boxed-in thinking that requires a official conspriracy before acting,...

Before acting? You mean the killer wasn't aprehended?

...well then we will be taken over by these cockroaches, for each cockroach seems to operate independently.

We can recognize that those of the Islamic faith have a tendency to hate us without thinking there is a conspiracy by the FBI to hide a terrorist link to this killer. Keep things in perspective

There is no King Cockroach either.

Well if there are a bunch of little kings, then we got this one. The American people know he is a muslim, the truth is known in this case. No need for a grand conspiracy.

[swarthyguy]

The wife has a new car, the kids education at the finest islamic universities is being funded by the Saudis, and his praises are being sung to the high heavens by the twisted mullahs.

Sure this whole case is circumstantial, but there's a lot of circumstances.

Of course, if he really wanted a high body count, any US carrier airline counter would have yielded up a bloodier bounty, including probably a large number of jewish people as well. But he went to ELAl.

Pere's daughter there is one hell of a coincidence too.