Now why would our F.B.I. cover up the terrorist attack at LAX on July 4th, 2002?

7/6/2002 | TLBSHOW

[TLBSHOW]

Now why would our F.B.I. cover up the terrorist attack at LAX?

I mean they tell us we will be attacked and then we are attacked and then they say this was not a terrorist attack. Now why would our F.B.I. cover up the terrorist attack at LAX?

The PEOPLE WHO WERE ATTACKED knows what it was and IT WAS a TERRORIST ATTACK.

We are either being played for fools or the terrorist just maybe are within the FBI. We know the democrats are terrorist helpers so maybe just maybe the FBI HAS BEEN SUBVERTED TOO!

Just a question for comments.

[tallhappy]

A bigger plot that was thwarted; accomplices at LAX or other airports or airlines.

I think this is very likely.

[Dave S]

There is usually logic behind even seemingly insane policies; most likely, the self-serving kind. One possible scenario is that the Bush Clan and their ilk have long been in the back pockets (bought and paid for) of certain billionaires of the Muslim persuasion.

Now we are really in tinfoil country. Tin foil alert! TIN FOIL ALERT! The Black helicoptors are coming...

[McGavin999]

Because we don't want the word "Terrorist" to be used for every single crime that comes down the pike. If this guy went out and killed a bunch of people because he hates Jews, that doesn't automatically make him a terrorist. It does make him a vile murderer.

Let's not lose site of what we're into here. We're out to find the groups who encourage these things, finance them, and organize them. Some dumb bigot who goes out on his own is NOT a terrorist. If we allow this word to be misused, we've lost the war. BEWARE the misuse of the language.

[McGavin999]

No, shoe bomber Reid did NOT act alone. He was financed, a group furnished the weapon, it was organized. DO NOT allow the word "terrorist" to be hijacked. That's just what the terrorists want.

[Dave S]

Egyptian National Shoots 2 Jews in terrorist attack on American Airport. How would our "allies" like that for a headline? There are international sensitivities at stake here.

Explain that to me. Who are you referring to Egypt? Arafat would be thrilled by it, so would Saddam and so would the Saudis. Europeans would love it because it would mean two less Jews and one less Arab that might migrate to their country. Even Israel wouldnt mind because it would support what they have been saying all along. So elucidate? I somehow miss your point.

[John W]

What the terrorists want is dead infidels.And,by being PC and worrying more about crowd control than identifying and killing bad guys,we do what they really want.

[asneditor]

It could be that the FBI is fulla dumb*****!

[RJCogburn]

Some dumb bigot who goes out on his own is NOT a terrorist...BEWARE the misuse of the language.

I agree.

[FITZ]

Also the FBI didn't have a problem watching (and burning) 80 Seventh Day Adventist American citizens who they considered to be terrorists even though they had never hurt anyone.

[brewcrew]

All the evidence is clearly trending towards this guy being a simple nutcase.

In most civilized countries, the nutcases aren't encouraged by their leaders to direct their paranoia at "infidels." As a result, they tend to go off on whatever the object of their obsession is - Jodie Foster, President Reagan, David Letterman, George Wallace, abortion mills, students at Colombine H.S., a day care center, you get the idea.

But in the lands of the "religion of peace," all the hatred is directed at Israel and the U.S., and it is encouraged by their leadership. Perhaps that needs to be our definition of terrorism....be it a lone nutcase or an organized group of nutcases.

In my book, if you have acts of violence directed at you simply by virtue of your country of citizenship, you are a victim of terrorism.

[FITZ]

I wonder how much Muslim "charity" money his family is receiving now. I'll bet they are being financially rewarded like other Islamic terrorists are. Interesting how fast they made it back to Egypt ---which wouldn't be so likely if this was some America-loving nutcase who just went postal.

[Dave S]

Why the coverup? A father and an uncle (retd generals)in the Egyptian Army. Saudi Money. Fear of widespread reprisals against muslims. Opens up the can of worms with EgyptAir Flight 990 (Friend of the jihadi pilot, Batouty)

The biggest threat to the current Egyptian government is the terrorist group that is headed by Osama Bin Ladens second in command. Thats the same group that the blind Sheik who we have in jail is involved with. Being a general in the Eyptian Army makes you less, not more likely to be associated with that terrorist group.

You might go on a reprisal against Muslims but most Americans are not going to join you because one idiot does the equivalent of a "drive by" shooting. Now if you had that happening in ten or twenty different airports simulataneously, then you might be right. But not over this. Unless you are a Jew or Israeli or know the individuals involved, its like hearing about the latest drive by or drug killing. Its not going to cause vigalantism.

As far as connection to Egyptian Airlines case. That would be interesting but the only source Ive heard for that was DEBKA, so I doubt that will pan out.

So you tell me, why is the FBI covering up if you feel they are?

[Dave S]

The question isn't: Why is the Gov't "covering up" a terrorist attack? The question is: Why do all the conspiracy nuts on FR continually jump to the wrong conclusion and then aid the enemy by spreading fear and confusion? ... The level of debate on FR is slipping drastically. And the major reason for the decline is the domination of this forum by knee-jerk bozos who never hesitate to find the most dumbass point of view and broadcast it loudly.

Boy have you gotten that right! I cant believe there are so many either hate filled or ignorant people who constantly get their jollies out of berating the "govmint." One wouldnt be surprised if experiencing major terrorist attacks everyday would make them cream in their pants. Then they really would have something to complain about and a real reason to go out and kill an arab or two.

[Dave S]

The government has no problem calling McVeigh a terrorist, even though they claim he was part of a cabal of TWO.

At least THREE. You left out the guy that was the state witness against him and Nicols. He was convicted but got less than ten years.

[TLBSHOW]

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I hate the bs pc crap and the cover up over the word terrorist.
TLBSHOW

GET OVER IT DAVES

this is a cover up!

[dirtboy]

Thanks for the correction. IMO, however, the comparison is still relevant, in that the government had no problem labelling McVeigh a terrorist, even though they state he was not part of a larger network other than two other conspirators, but seem to be working very hard here not to call the shooter something other than a terrorist, and I for one find the parsing quite absurd.

[Dave S]

From the news stories this appears to be a lone gunman and not an al-Qaeda sleeper agent. But he appears to be motivated by the same forces we now face. One does not officially need to be a member of the al-Qaeda to be a terrorist. One can be motived by their cause and act in their place.

And as such it would be a random act of violence. What difference does it make that he had the same motivation as Fatah or Ilamic Jihad or Al-Qaeda? I would bet on a thread about hate crimes you would be arguing that motivation or intention made no difference. The victim was just as dead.

There is nothing that could have been done that likely would have prevented a loan gunman who didnt blab his intentions to the world from being able to pull off something like this.

[Dave S]

Of course, by that logic, shoebomber Reid "acted alone" too, so he isn't a terrorist. So what if he was funded and trained and supported by terrorist groups. He acted alone; thus, he shouldn't be considered a terrorist.

You undermined your own argument. Reid was trained, funded and equipped by Al-Qaeda. You dont think that rocket scientist built his own shoe bomb, much less came up with that idea on his own, do you.

The Egyptian may or may not have had involvement of others. Up to this point it doesnt look like it unless he was sacrificial lamb to test airport response.