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In the U.S. Nowadays, Little Love for France
NY Times ^ | 7-6-2002 | Emily Eakin

Posted on 07/06/2002 6:38:40 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Since the beginning of the year, Edward I. Koch, former mayor of New York City, has signed off most of his weekly radio broadcasts with a declaration of war loosely inspired by Julius Caesar: "Omni Gaul delenda est!" ("All Gaul must be destroyed!")

Mr. Koch says he doesn't mean the phrase literally, of course. But it's become a way for him to express his antipathy toward France. In harboring such feelings, he is apparently not alone. While formal polls routinely show widespread American indifference to France, some experts say anti-French sentiment in the news media is on the rise. A few have even begun to talk of an outbreak of francophobia, marked by the revival of age-old stereotypes about the dirty, arrogant, anti-Semitic French.

Francophobia is to America what anti-Americanism is to France, said Justin Vaisse, a professor at the Institute of Political Science in Paris who was in Manhattan last week presenting a paper on the topic to members of the French-American Foundation, a local group that promotes intellectual exchange between the countries.

Another facet of the two longtime allies' intense and somewhat inexplicable mutual fascination — a classic case of love-hate — is that francophobia has deep roots in American culture, Mr. Vaisse said.

He compared it to a chronic illness, prone to recur whenever there is tension between the countries.

"Francophobia is not a fair criticism of France," he said. "It is a systematic bias against the country, a willingness to see everything painted in black. It is a disease in the intellectual and political debate."

And lately, he argued, there have been signs of a flare-up. "We're currently witnessing a wave of anti-French sentiment in the press that we haven't seen since '86 or '95," he said.

In 1986, France refused to let American pilots fly over its airspace on bombing missions to Libya. In 1995, it publicly accused five Americans of spying, embarrassing the United States. Both incidents triggered a bout of France-bashing editorials.

The causes of the latest outbreak are equally clear, Mr. Vaisse said: a spate of anti-Semitic incidents in France, the unexpectedly good showing of the ultra-nationalist Jean-Marie Le Pen in the first round of the French presidential elections and dissatisfaction with French foreign policy in the Middle East, deemed by some in the United States to be insufficiently pro-Israel. There was also the runaway success in France of Thierry Meyssan's book "L'Effroyable Imposture" ("The Horrifying Fraud") attributing the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to a United States government conspiracy.

These developments have coincided with a strong surge of anti-Americanism in France. After a brief honeymoon last fall — President Jacques Chirac was the first foreign leader to visit the United States after the terrorist attacks — relations between the two countries soured, with many French expressing vociferous opposition to the Afghan war. Tensions have increased since February, when Hubert Védrine, the French foreign minister, dismissed President Bush's "axis of evil" metaphor as "simplistic," prompting Secretary of State Colin L. Powell to snap that his French colleague was "getting the vapors."

Even the boardroom politics of French corporations have become symbols of cultural mistrust. The ouster this week of Jean-Marie Messier, the hard-driving chief executive of Vivendi Universal, the French media conglomerate, took on an anti-American cast when it was reported that he had been perceived by disgruntled French stockholders as too favorably disposed to America and its business models. (He ditched Paris for Park Avenue and insisted that even the company's French managers use English on the job. Under the new leadership, Vivendi's American executives will get lessons in French history and etiquette, and will be encouraged to "demonstrate that they like France.")Americans have responded to these events — particularly the outbreak of anti-Semitism — with a mixture of anger and anxiety.

Concern over reports of fire bombings at French synagogues and of physical assaults on French and Belgian Jews prompted the Simon Wiesenthal Center to issue a travel advisory for France and Belgium this spring — an unprecedented step. A similar fear led the Pacific-Southwest branch of the American Jewish Congress to urge a boycott of the Cannes Film Festival in April. (The congress mentioned "L'Effroyable Imposture" as well as anti-Semitism in its ad campaign promoting the action.) Last month, the congress decided to suspend its tours of France altogether.

Mr. Koch said he began his own boycott in December, after the French government failed to reprimand Daniel Bernard, its ambassador to Britain, who used an obscenity to refer to Israel at a dinner party. (Mr. Bernard did not deny making the remark but said his words had been greatly distorted.) .

Even the French edition of Saul Bellow's latest novel, "Ravelstein," became grounds for attack when The New York Observer reported in June that the publisher, Gallimard, had selected an image for the book's cover — a photograph of a large-nosed old man with hornlike tufts of hair — that verged on anti-Semitic caricature. (Denying that the company had acted with anti-Semitic intent, a Gallimard employee told the Observer that the image had been chosen for its humor.)

While many French experts admit that such reactions are understandable, but some fear that genuine political disagreement and legitimate concern over anti-Semitism may also be giving way to crude caricatures of the French.

"This wave of francophobia is accompanied by classic negative stereotypes," Mr. Vaisse said. His examples included opinion pieces by the conservative commentators Anne Coulter and Charles Krauthammer and the iconoclastic journalist Michael Kelly , who in defending President Bush's "axis of evil" speech from French government criticism in The Washington Post, referred to the "French foreign minister, whose name is Pétain or Maginot or something."

He might also have cited "Saturday Night Live." In a spoof of a French tourism commercial that was broadcast on the show in April, a series of iconic images — the Louvre, the Eiffel Tower, a little girl toting a load of baguettes — flashed by on the screen while a female voice recited the pitch in a dulcet murmur: "The French: cowardly yet opinionated, arrogant yet foul-smelling. Anti-Israel, anti-American and, of course, as always, Jew-hating. With all that's going on in the world, isn't it time we got back to hating the French?"

Some French blame the American news media for making such remarks acceptable. The press, they say, has failed to distinguish between the anti-Semitic acts occurring in France today — mostly attributed to Muslim teenagers angry about the conflict in the Middle East — and those that occurred during World War II. They point out that thousands of French citizens have protested the anti-Semitic acts in demonstrations, and they say Mr. Le Pen's resounding defeat proves that the vast majority of French are staunchly opposed to racial and religious hatred.

In a sternly worded opinion piece published in The Washington Post last month, François Bujon de l'Estang, France's ambassador to the United States, lashed out at American commentators who have drawn analogies between the Holocaust and contemporary France. Calling the anti-Semitic incidents a "spillover from the Israel-Palestinian conflict," he argued that "they don't make France any more anti-Semitic than the persistence of the Ku Klux Klan and white supremacists makes the United States a racist country on the verge of restoring segregation or slavery."

Many Americans — particularly Jews — remain unconvinced, saying the French government has shown little interest in punishing perpetrators of anti-Semitic crimes. "The French lay this blame off through a multitude of excuses," said Jack Rosen, president of the American Jewish Congress. "There is a historical context that needs to be considered."

But French scholars insist that there is a difference between history and stereotypes. The most troubling expressions of anti-French sentiment, they say, are those like the "Saturday Night Live" parody, which make their appeal simply by invoking all-purpose clichés.

"It's the eternal return of the same," said Eric Fassin, a sociologist at the École Normale Supérieure in Paris, who studies French-American relations. "As is the case with anti-Americanism in France, on the one hand you have immemorial rhetoric, so you feel you're always hearing the same thing. On the other hand, it's always being updated for new purposes and contexts."

Some of the negative images date to the early days of the American republic. In his paper, Mr. Vaisse cites the XYZ affair of 1797, when President John Adams sent an envoy to Paris to improve diplomatic relations with France. The French government agreed, but set hefty financial conditions — $250,000 up front as well as a $12 million loan — creating a lasting impression of Gallic moral corruption.

A hundred years later, the Dreyfus Affair helped establish France's reputation as a haven for anti-Semitism, a notion reinforced by evidence of substantial French collaboration with the Nazis under the Vichy regime. Similarly, France's capitulation to the Germans in 1940 made the French into eternal cowards, just as Charles de Gaulle, a famously stubborn and uncooperative ally, secured his fellow citizens a permanent reputation in this country for untrustworthiness and arrogance.

French scholars are quick to point out that positive clichés — about French wine, cheese, art, love and elegance — are just as plentiful. And they are often invoked in the same breath as the negative ones. Even the "Saturday Night Live" parody included references to France's reputation for great art and food.

"You can't fully distinguish between the anti and the pro people," Mr. Fassin said. "The same people can produce articles telling you how great it is in France and how irritating the French are."

In the end, he speculated, the explanation for France and America's love-hate relationship lies not in how different the two countries are but in how similar. "Arrogance?," he said. "They are competing for the gold medal." He called France and the United States the nations of "competing universalisms."

"If you take imperialism," he said, "you have it on both sides."

Edward C. Knox, a professor of French at Middlebury College in Vermont, agreed. "These are the two civilizations that think they have lessons to teach the whole world," he said. "Which makes them rivals."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; antisemitism; france; francophobia; lovehate
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To: Pharmboy
The press, they say, has failed to distinguish between the anti-Semitic acts occurring in France today — mostly attributed to Muslim teenagers angry about the conflict in the Middle East —

"Muslim teenagers" are the future French people, because of their insane immigration and politically correct policies. It clearly shows the hypocrisy of the leftist elites. On the one hand, they want to pretend that these Muslim immigrants are loyal French, but then deny that they are French when it is convenient.

Why haven't these "muslim teenagers" been assimilated, re-educated and Frenchified? Why are they more loyal to their M.E. brethren than to their "own" country? Because the French are afraid to impose their culture upon the portion of immigrants that want to be there. The rest are invaders and terrorists.

We are making the same stupid mistakes here in the United States.

21 posted on 07/06/2002 7:11:52 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Smile-n-Win
Already posted here.

Yes, but this thread was posted to one of the four main sidebars, which insures people will see it. The thread you linked to was not, which guaranteed it would sink into obscurity unless it had exploded into a hundreds-of-posts-long super-active thread within moments of being posted.

22 posted on 07/06/2002 7:13:20 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: scocha
As a result, the NYT misses the thing that really drives the French crazy: Americans do not care what the French say, think, or do.

You nailed it.
In fact, Americans have that same attitude toward all of Europe and it simply drives the newsroom elites there crazy.

Where's Hank Scorpio when you need him?

23 posted on 07/06/2002 7:14:07 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Pharmboy
Believe me, I searched with the searchword "France" and it did not come up.

I believe you. The search engine has tricked me a couple of times, too.

24 posted on 07/06/2002 7:14:33 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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To: ecomcon
I read some time ago here that the Frence environazis have stopped frog hunting....so frogs legs are now imported from South East Asia.

That must really tick them off.

25 posted on 07/06/2002 7:18:49 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Timesink
Yes, but this thread was posted to one of the four main sidebars, which insures people will see it. The thread you linked to was not

You have a point. I just compared the times the two threads were posted and said "Already posted" on the one that came later.

26 posted on 07/06/2002 7:22:36 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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To: Tijeras_Slim
France is a useless country!
27 posted on 07/06/2002 7:25:00 AM PDT by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: Smile-n-Win
You have a point. I just compared the times the two threads were posted and said "Already posted" on the one that came later.

Yeah, I wasn't meaning to get on your case or anything. I just think it's the infinite number of sidebars is the worst feature of the new FR software. Before, you could be reasonably sure of seeing all the articles posted to FR if you had all four sidebars turned on and checked in about twice a day, because every post had to be put in at least one of the four main categories. Now 75% of Freepers posting new articles don't bother to put them in more than one or two topics like "politics" or "business", and they fall off the Latest Posts page before anyone even sees them, unless it's 4 am on a Monday morning or something when there aren't 20 new responses being posted every 60 seconds.

28 posted on 07/06/2002 7:27:25 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Anyway, I'm watching both threads now and enjoying the hilarious comments. Check out #17 on the thread I linked--it's my favorite!
29 posted on 07/06/2002 7:31:59 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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To: spokeshave
so frogs legs are now imported from South East Asia.

That must really tick them off.

Not nearly as much as the Chinese truffles! I kid you not!

30 posted on 07/06/2002 7:35:06 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Pharmboy
Little love for France in this corner.
31 posted on 07/06/2002 7:40:16 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Pharmboy
And indeed, the "XYZ" Affair got things off to a bad start.

The irony is that if is was not for the French, we would likely have lost the revolt against England.

32 posted on 07/06/2002 7:40:41 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: mgist
I would say for the most part Americans are very indifferent towards the French. We don't pay any attention to them, they can't stand it. When we hear these stories of the French calling Americans arrogant it is irritating. I think they just want a little attention.

My father loved France, so I was brought up in a Francophilic atmosphere.

I visited France some years ago.

I will return only if someone gives me the keys to a fully-laden SAC B52.

The French I met worked VERY HARD to create this change of attitude. I could not care less what they think. They are irrelevant.

33 posted on 07/06/2002 7:42:35 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Timesink
By the way, the number of active Klansmen in the US today is roughly a whopping 2500 people.

Probably half of whom are undercover feds.

34 posted on 07/06/2002 7:44:22 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Pharmboy
My Father, who fought in the 28th ID during WWII, and was captured during the Bulge, has no hard feelings towards the Germans at all. He did aquire a deep and abiding dislike of the French.

While in France, the Free French Infantry (FFI) would often point his patrols in the direction of German positions. When they were invited to participate in the coming assault, they would invariably decline. After the action was complete, the FFI would re-emerge and demand to shoot what prisoners they had taken.

He told me that a rifle butt to the chops but an end to such requests.
35 posted on 07/06/2002 7:48:03 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Pharmboy
And, it will get much worse. Now that the Grench have the unusual good sense to dicard the socialists and select centrists to run the whole country, our ultra-liberal, extreme left wing media will really begin to take shots at them Lefties like the New York Times and the National Enquirer will begin to structure their whole foreign coverage to paint the more conservative French government as much worse then the friendly crypto-communists government it replaced. Well, maybe not so much the National Enquirer.

Just look at how the Eurinals went after the Austrians, who seemed to favor a non-communist.

36 posted on 07/06/2002 7:48:49 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: MeeknMing
The French suck.
37 posted on 07/06/2002 7:51:58 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Slyfox
I have gone to France repeatedly and have always been treated with politeness and decency. It is a beautiful country with great food, wonderful scenery and interesting history. The problems in Paris are mostly due to many of the young Arab men from Algeria and Morocco (the older folks are mostly in business and fit in well) who have no desire to be French, are often unemployed and are concentrated in high-rise hovels in the ring suburbs of the cities. They make inviting targets for the Islamofascists, who by the way, are funded by Saudi Arabia.
38 posted on 07/06/2002 7:55:18 AM PDT by laconic
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To: cardinal4
Like a vacuum cleaner.........
39 posted on 07/06/2002 7:57:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
I waited on a young French couple in a cafe on Capitol Hill.Very nice people. I was about to wonder if I had err'd in judgement on the French,when the man asked why I had my anti hillary button on.(Godzillarys face with a redline through it)I explained that liberal commies had no place in America. They said in France the Xlintons are revered. Enough said.
40 posted on 07/06/2002 8:02:19 AM PDT by cardinal4
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