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1 posted on 07/05/2002 5:34:43 PM PDT by Pokey78
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Bump for a later read when my eyes can take it.

Long article

2 posted on 07/05/2002 5:37:34 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: Pokey78
The high carbo diet and the food pyramid is the same diet as for fattening pigs. I've heard (unfounded accusation coming) that Archer Daniels Midlands pushes/funds the the "pig-feed" diet.
4 posted on 07/05/2002 5:40:51 PM PDT by evolved_rage
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Why am I pinging you three? Because this has to do with a certain search for the truth, wherever it may lead. Go for it.
5 posted on 07/05/2002 5:42:09 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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LOL - I gotta laugh at these hucksters like Atkins.

Sure, his diet works, if you can "stomach" shoving fat down your gullet all day, but how healthy is that? People lost weight on low-carb diets in concentration camps, too.

The only effective and healthful "weigh" to lose weight is to engage in moderate aerobic excercise, and moderate weight training (and to limit fat intake).

7 posted on 07/05/2002 5:46:42 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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How about we just eat, be happy, and die when we die?
8 posted on 07/05/2002 5:48:54 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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thanks. Interesting. In my experience, fat stays on with high carbs, also with ATkins, but moderately hi-pro low-carb Zone works perfectly.

One of the best things about this article is that it leaves those who are poised to sue the food industry for wrecking everyone's health and causing diabetes, cancer, etc., now faced with the FACT that the gubmint itself has set out the high-carb guidelines that are probably causing the obesity epidemic. The liberal idiots (probably overweight) cannot convince anyone that the government should regulate the food industry when their very own food pyramid guidelines are the cause of the worst problems in history. And federally funded beaurocracies like NIH have refused to fund research on efficacy of various diets.

PETA and other vegetarians must be grinding their molars over this article from the leftie NYT.

Right back. I have a sirloin thawing.
9 posted on 07/05/2002 5:56:28 PM PDT by PoisedWoman
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I won't die of obesity but this long article may do it...................
10 posted on 07/05/2002 6:00:50 PM PDT by xJones
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This article is absolutely true. I have felt that we were told to eat a low fat diet simply because the animal rights people don't wamt us to eat meat, and the medical profession wants to remain politically correct.

However, a low fat diet increased my cholestrol numbers, weight and blood pressure. I went on the Adkins diet, lowered all my numbers and my doctor said, "You are doing great on your low fat diet, keep it up." I said, "OK, and went home and ate bacon and eggs.

11 posted on 07/05/2002 6:03:43 PM PDT by swampfox98
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Thanks for posting this.

I eat primarily a high protein diet and I feel physically wonderful. I've been at it about a year and the mood swings are gone, the early afternoon exhaustion is gone, my food cravings are gone, my gastroensophogeal (sp?) reflex is gone. I eat fruit and vegetables at the one meal a day when I eat carbs.

The one thing that convinced me to try this type of diet is that I read that before 1920, heart disease was extremely rare because people didn't consume carbohydrates like they do now. It may not be for everyone but it's worked like a charm for me. I wish I had known about this a few years earlier.

12 posted on 07/05/2002 6:04:17 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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I've already lost 3 pounds just reading this article!

By the way if anyone wants some good advice on how to lose weight then don't eat too late at night before you go to bed. Eat for energy. If you do not need the energy then just eat a little. It has always worked for me.

13 posted on 07/05/2002 6:08:59 PM PDT by Raymond Hendrix
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This is not very politically correct and will not make the manufactured food industry very happy - nor the low fat quacks. BadSpeak TruthTalk!
14 posted on 07/05/2002 6:15:31 PM PDT by Dana113
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According to Katherine Flegal, an epidemiologist at the National Center for Health Statistics, the percentage of obese Americans stayed relatively constant through the 1960's and 1970's at 13 percent to 14 percent and then shot up by 8 percentage points in the 1980's.

I don't know if I would trust anyone in the Flegal family.

Just kidding, I think lo-carb ways of eating are how we are meant to eat.

15 posted on 07/05/2002 6:19:34 PM PDT by retrokitten
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Lowering calorie intake is the key, not merely the sources of the calories. Eating more carbs only replaces the calories you didn't eat with the fat, considering carb sources are normally less filling than fat/protein sources.

I don't know why people make something like this so complicated. Do not eat more calories than you burn off...and you won't become obese.

18 posted on 07/05/2002 6:28:11 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Bump for later reading. I've long had issues with the food pyramid.
20 posted on 07/05/2002 6:29:40 PM PDT by weegee
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Follow the greenbacks...the food pyramid originates NOT from NIH but the Dept.of Agriculture...essentially owned and run by a variety of large agricultural conglomerates...ADM comes to mind. the buy, sell and trade the bulk of the grain products on the CBOT.
28 posted on 07/05/2002 6:37:23 PM PDT by mo
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THANK YOU for posting this. I have read the Atkins book and been on the diet for a little bit. I must have had too much veggies because I barely lost any weight - however, I felt wonderful and had a lot of energy.
29 posted on 07/05/2002 6:42:08 PM PDT by ikka
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Very interesting....Thanks very much for posting it.
36 posted on 07/05/2002 6:54:48 PM PDT by Artist
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bump
48 posted on 07/05/2002 7:09:59 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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I think the key is to eat lots of fresh fruits and vegetables. In Ukraine, people eat slabs of raw fatback (salo) with bread for lunch. They routinely live to ripe old ages in good health. However, they also have gardens and eat fresh fruits and vegetables.
59 posted on 07/05/2002 7:18:48 PM PDT by OK
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I noticed that Prevention magazine this month has a cover story proclaiming the Ice Cream Diet, eat it every day and you're certain to live long and healthfully. Recently there have been a number of "studies" showing that eggs, and plenty of them, are "heart healthy." Other new "studies" declare that whole milk, taken abundantly, cures everything from cancer to obesity. I wait for the sure thing to happen soon -- "studies" showing that, as 16th Century British knew, smoking at least 40 cigarettes a day is essential to good health from 8 to 80. It isn't the fad that's important. It's the buck.
71 posted on 07/05/2002 7:31:21 PM PDT by Whilom
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