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States seek to lower obesity rates
CBS Marketwatch ^
| July 5, 2002
| Andrea Coombes
Posted on 07/05/2002 11:16:52 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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It's about time fat people paid their fair share. I'm tired of paying for someone's extremely high health care bills simply because they choose to sit on the couch all day eating ice cream and twinkies.
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Amen, brother :)
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posted on
07/05/2002 11:20:32 AM PDT
by
ECM
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
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posted on
07/05/2002 11:28:08 AM PDT
by
Consort
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Probably, a better solution would be a less communist health care system.
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
That could easily be taken care of. The insurance companies should charge the fatsos higher premiums, just like they do for smokers.
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
The most obvious question about this article is, of course, never asked: Why are the States funding healthcare to the point that they feel compelled to modify the day to day choices of their citizens?
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
This is what happens when states provide/participate in MedicAid/welfare-medical programs. So many people are on MedicAid now, that we pretty much have unofficial, socialized medicine.
Men's Health Magazine has a report in this month's issue in favor of states and localities adding a sin tax to fast food and possibly suing McDonalds. Some lawyers are already lobbying localities to sue.
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Too true.
Make the fatties pay. Insurers charge based on age, sex, smoking - fatties should be no different.
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posted on
07/05/2002 11:37:02 AM PDT
by
cracker
To: jodorowsky; Psycho_Bunny
Gotta agree with both of you on your points...
Yes, back in the "old days" when people actually paid for their doctor visits they learned to take care of themselves. And if they were poor, and couldn't pay, the doctor would work out a deal with them. Now the state simply comes to me and tells me to pay for other people's doctor visits...
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
It's about time fat people paid their fair share. I'm tired of paying for someone's extremely high health care bills simply because they choose to sit on the couch all day eating ice cream and twinkies.Are you serious?????? Don't let your prejudices against fat people cloud your thinking into letting the left unleash it's fat police.
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posted on
07/05/2002 11:40:53 AM PDT
by
Gaston
To: Gaston
Don't let your prejudices against fat people... So you are saying that fat people can't help getting that way???
PLEASE(!!!), don't let your bigotry and hatred for fit people let the left unleash more burdonsome taxes on fit people!!!
To: rodeocowboy
So many people are on MedicAid now, that we pretty much have unofficial, socialized medicine. Medicare is socialized medicine for the elderly. They use it, the rest of us pay it but can't use it.
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
So you are saying that fat people can't help getting that way???No, I said no such thing. But it is obvious from your previous posts to other threads that indeed you are prejudiced against fat people.
I am against my taxes being used to finance anyone's (repeat anyone's) medical expenses fit fat or other.
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07/05/2002 11:50:12 AM PDT
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Gaston
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To: Psycho_Bunny
This is, of course, the main problem with socialized medicin. When bad health becomes a cost issue, the state will almost certainly begin regulating our personal lives, whether its fried foods or cigarettes.
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07/05/2002 11:53:50 AM PDT
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Blackyce
To: winnipeg
isn't it embarrassing that 61% of Americans are overweight? It's also an eyesore.
To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Before taking anybody's word that America is getting fatter go here:
http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
This is the tool now used to define people as obese or not. Notice it's a flat comparison of height and weight. No longer do you take into account things like age, gender, skeletal frame type, muscle mass or body fat % (which is truly the only measurement that counts for determining if your obese). The reason our obese nubmers are sky rocketing is that they've fudged the definition to the point where anyone waying more than X (regardless of how they got there, even if they're bulging muscles) is obese. Bad science inspired bad laws.
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posted on
07/05/2002 11:56:39 AM PDT
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discostu
To: discostu
The reason our obese nubmers are sky rocketing is that they've fudged the definition My eyes tell me differently.
To: Gaston
But it is obvious from your previous posts to other threads that indeed you are prejudiced against fat people.Fascinating the way you emulate the left so well with your comments. If you disagree with someone don't talk about the point, just call them prejiduce or some other name. So, yes, I'm going to play your game and firmly believe that you are a bigot. You hate fit people. Otherwise you would not be defending fat people taking money from fit people for their high health care costs.
There is nothing prejiduce about stating the fact that being fat is a lifestyle choice and a costly one at that. I'm tired of them telling me to pay for it. Call that what you want...
To: rodeocowboy
This is what happens when states provide/participate in MedicAid/welfare-medical programs. So many people are on MedicAid now, that we pretty much have unofficial, socialized medicine. Men's Health Magazine has a report in this month's issue in favor of states and localities adding a sin tax to fast food and possibly suing McDonalds. Some lawyers are already lobbying localities to sue.
It is going to get much worse than that.
The _largest_ expenditures on socialized medicine are not due to overweight people. The are due to (hang on to your chairs) dying people. That's right--people of all kinds who are very sick, in comas, on machines, etc. spend something like 50% of the total health care costs in the last weeks of their life.
How are the liberals going to deal with that?
The liberals are also going to find out that very old people use a disproportionate percentage of the health care system.
This has been a science fiction dystopia theme for a long time--and we better all start quaking in fear. The liberal's nanny state can only lead to one vicious solution--involuntary euthanasia.
First they came for the gun-owners, then the smokers, then the fat people. Next they will come for you!
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posted on
07/05/2002 12:02:15 PM PDT
by
cgbg
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